View Poll Results: Should the U.K leave the E.U?

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    What worries me as a leave EU man , is the bookies odds , those fuckers rarely get it wrong.

    Referendum result

    Remain 4/11

    Leave 2/1

    https://sports.ladbrokes.com/en-gb/b...eu-referendum/

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    What I have never understood about the left in the UK is why they are pro EU, as unmitigated immigration has naturally resulted in downward pressure in wages which affects the average Labour supporter as now they are earning a lot less in real terms than they used to. Take Nigel for example HGV 1 drivers were earning 40k+ 10-15 years ago now they get paid 10-12 an hour. Electricians, plumbers etc. made a good living now work for peanuts due to the never ending supply of cheap labour. There are numerous Brit members of TD who are on the left of the political spectrum but I'm yet to hear of one argument of why being a member of the EU helps the working man as opposed to how it has ass raped them which they all seem to be in denial about despite all the overwhelming evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue View Post
    What worries me as a leave EU man , is the bookies odds , those fuckers rarely get it wrong.

    Referendum result

    Remain 4/11

    Leave 2/1

    https://sports.ladbrokes.com/en-gb/b...eu-referendum/
    Those odds still the same now good old Boris has come out on the 'get the fuk out' side as he alone has more appeal, positivity and charisma than B-liar, Cameron et all combined who don't think Britain is capable of governing itself?

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy
    There are numerous Brit members of TD who are on the left of the political spectrum but I'm yet to hear of one argument of why being a member of the EU helps the working man as opposed to how it has ass raped them which they all seem to be in denial about despite all the overwhelming evidence.
    You haven't been paying attention then, but a bit less attention on the 'ass-rape' issue may prove useful

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy
    There are numerous Brit members of TD who are on the left of the political spectrum but I'm yet to hear of one argument of why being a member of the EU helps the working man as opposed to how it has ass raped them which they all seem to be in denial about despite all the overwhelming evidence.
    You haven't been paying attention then, but a bit less attention on the 'ass-rape' issue may prove useful
    As opposed to your typical mundane posts that offer nothing perhaps you could take a minute out of your busy schedule to explain how the working man in the UK has benefitted from Britain being a member of the EU, and maybe offer up some facts and figures to back up whatever it is you are going to claim. Now obviously I won't be holding my breath as I realise that will be beyond you as it means actually having to think about the bollox you post as a bit like another poster whose name I won't mention when you scratch the surface with you there is actually nothing underneath.

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    Thanks for the good advice BB regarding relocating I will carry on as I am at the moment life's good I am up in the wilds of Scotland and out of Liverpool
    As for the above I agree to a certain extent but the UK is not going to disappear from the world stage nor is our economy going to freefall if we leave
    I am voting out , it will probably be s vote to stay as the UK in general is full of people who are scared of change.
    Just look at what happened in Scotland's referendum
    Fuck it it will not affect how I live

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    I am sure there is a good case for both options. The trouble is, no one on either side has made a convincing argument for either option.

    In the absence of hard evidence to a complex set of alternatives, I currently come down to the fact that the EU needs radical reform, and that can only be achieved from within.

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbobs
    the UK in general is full of people who are scared of change.
    That is what will probably swing the day in the end. People generally hate change and uncertainty.

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    Out- we need to start governing out own country again and something needs to be done about immigration

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    Quote Originally Posted by chassamui
    I currently come down to the fact that the EU needs radical reform, and that can only be achieved from within.
    Absolutely - the fact that Britain has remained, due to the very many opt-outs, on the periphery of the EU and has been shut out of reform . . . can't whine and whine from the sidelines and then complain that you're not being heard

    Quote Originally Posted by greentea
    Out- we need to start governing out own country again

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat
    Absolutely - the fact that Britain has remained, due to the very many opt-outs, on the periphery of the EU and has been shut out of reform . . . can't whine and whine from the sidelines and then complain that you're not being heard
    Don't confuse the EU Referendum with issues which relate solely to the Eurozone. The UK is not and has never qualified for membership of the Euro. Not an opt out, a sound choice to remain outside the monetary union.

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    High stakes poker game going on at the moment.
    Boris voting to opt out is a clear message to EU
    to either come up with what the tories are demanding or
    say bye bye.
    If he had sided with Cameron the EU members would be laughing up their sleeves.

    Still a chance that Boris could change if demands are met. methinks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billy the kid View Post
    High stakes poker game going on at the moment.
    Boris voting to opt out is a clear message to EU
    to either come up with what the tories are demanding or
    say bye bye.
    If he had sided with Cameron the EU members would be laughing up their sleeves.

    Still a chance that Boris could change if demands are met. methinks.
    UK's behaviour is frowned upon by the other EU members, reformation should come from inside agreements without any ultimatums.
    Cameron will hopefully not get anything more than the "almost nothing" he already got.

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    If we are one of the ones paying in, we should get more say in what goes on than the sponging bastards getting subsidised all the time.

    And since we don't, I say fuck 'em. They need us more than we need them.

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    ^ The UK will still have to pay if it wants to stay in the trade agreements as per Norway or Switzerland. The payment will be reduced but not as much as many think. They could well be paying quite a % of current contributions.

    An analysis from LSE:
    http://cep.lse.ac.uk/pubs/download/EA022.pdf

    But non EU members like Norway and Switzerland pay to be part of the European single market. On a per capita basis, Norway’s financial contribution to the EU is 83% of the UK’s payment and Switzerland’s contribution is 41% as large. Therefore, if the UK were to adopt the Norwegian or Swiss models after leaving the EU, the fiscal benefits of Brexit would be substantially less than 0.53%
    I see the pound dropped a little today...
    Last edited by Troy; 23-02-2016 at 12:16 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    They need us more than we need them.
    That is highly doubtful

    Quote Originally Posted by Troy
    I see the pound dropped a little today...
    Scotland votes to leave the YK - pound drops
    Boris suggests leaving - pound drops
    UK leaves - pound is decimated

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat
    UK leaves - pound is decimated
    Bollocks

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    Yes, utter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    UK leaves - pound is decimated
    Change the currency name from pound to gram

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue
    he wants to lead the whole of Europe towards his brand of socialism ,
    think the new religion of the future is Socialism.
    Capitalism is just about dead now, thanks to the 1%.
    If Bernie gets elected the writing will be on the wall.

    June 23rd i'm guessing a lot of uk citizens will be in France supporting their footie heroes or on holiday elsewhere.

    Why choose that date when so many will be absent.
    Last edited by billy the kid; 23-02-2016 at 07:43 PM.

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    If we leave the EU will it mean my newish passport becomes null and void.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat
    That is highly doubtful
    our trade deficit is not so good but services to EU more than make up for it.

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    If this doesn't raise a red flag, I don't know what will.



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    The No campaign in full flow today on the BBC!!

    I predict propaganda and lobbying to break record levels in the history of politics coming up to the 23rd of June.


    Leading British companies and business leaders, including members of the prime minister’s business advisory group, have refused to sign a letter promising the business community’s support for the UK’s membership of the EU.
    The letter, to be published in The Times on Tuesday, has attracted the signatures of 36 FTSE 100 companies, a significant show of support. But those who declined to sign include Barclays, the UK’s second-largest bank by assets, and its two biggest supermarket chains by sales, Tesco and J Sainsbury.
    Pro-EU letter shows mixed business views - FT.com

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    And Boris is a big hitter, but his timing was a deliberate attempt to show him in a positive light come the Tory leadership battle. He would rather keep his powder dry until the next election but he had no choice.
    I know Gove looks like plug from the Beano but he is as smart as a whip and will probably be the next Tory leader.
    What happens over the next 4 months will be obfuscation, smoke and mirrors. Truth is, no one knows the outcome of the referendum or the impact it will have on the country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chittychangchang
    But those who declined to sign include Barclays
    Such a reputable bank...

    However, where there is pessimism there lurks opportunity...and it is knocking at everyone's door...where is the modern Hughie Green to find that talent to run the new, independent UK.

    Who cares about risk, the UK is young, frivolous and happy...it wants to seek new avenues, new sights, new adventures and find entertainment outside of this boring family relationship with the EU (which was nothing more than an adoption anyway).

    The UK wants to be free, to explore places it has never been before,,,to sample foods and spices and trade with unknown peoples of unknown worlds...

    ...hang on a mo...wasn't that Betty I....rather than Liz II? Didn't we do that already?

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