The Right Wing Moron Thread

[bsnub]

Nazism is socialism

With that one idiotic comment you sir just confirmed the need for this threads existence.

[MikeyLikesU]

Lol

Trump is having great fun with the Hillary scandal. Dumb bitch back under criminal investigation again. Duhh . What does that "C"mean?

Hahahaha. Dumb as a rock.

[AntRobertson]

Hey congrats Mikey, you've found your thread.

[bsnub]

^ They can't see the irony in their posts.

[Humbert]

What does that "C"mean?

It means CANADIAN - PLEASE DUMB DOWN SO THEY CAN UNDERSTAND IT.

[sabang]

Even if it is confirmed that hilly is a butch lezzer, married to a philandering rapist, and is under extensive investigation by the FBI- she will still win the election.


Why? The donald.

[Maanaam]

^ Lol, true.

[CaptainNemo]

Nazism is socialism

With that one idiotic comment you sir just confirmed the need for this threads existence.

It's tempting to come back with something along the lines of "Say, you're smart. Can I have fries with that?" etc... but that's not what this part of the forum is for, and its important that people like you don't drag this part of the forum down as well.

...but, there you go again... is your only response to debate to become abusive?

It's obviously difficult to debate with people like you, not because you are so utterly convinced of yourself and that anyone who doesn't fall into line with your carefully polished views is some kind of untermensch; but more because debating with people like you means I have to do the work for you as well as for myself. This seems to be largely because you are so bigoted that you are unwilling to even read anything that undermines your fragile confection of opinions (bigotry, in its precise definition means the unwillingness to admit new information into your system when presented, which is irrational and unreasonable in the strictest sense) http://www.partiallyexaminedlife.com...-is-important/ .

For example, I have to select sources that are biased to your point of view in order for you to even tolerate them, which obviously makes assembling an argument against your precious world view, more of a challenge - but not insurmountable.

If you are so much more intelligent and well-informed, then you owe it to your lovely principles to show me the light and help me up from intellectual savagery to the clean, pure, true wisdom that only you can graciously bestow upon me; but in the meantime, let's kick about some facts... see if I can squeeze any out of you.

You don't need to simply go literal in defining Nazism (i.e.: National Socialism) as Socialism, you can simply read about it. It is a form of Statism.
Statism is where the state is all, and citizens are like termites or ants, posessed by the state to serve (the state's) greater good.
Here's a quick link (i.e.: for online arguments):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statism
Here's a slow link (i.e.: a book):
STATISM AND NATIONALISM: A COSMOPOLITAN CRITIQUE on JSTOR
The book is written by a lefty American, and is academic, so hopefully that passes all your reactionary filters, and gives you permission to read it.

Government Coercion Is the Common Link between Nazism, Communism, and other forms of Socialism
...you can click on the link below to read it, if you can be arsed:

https://danieljmitchell.wordpress.co...-of-socialism/
This guy is not a lefty, so I guess his opinions are dismissed by you...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_J._Mitchell

I'll have to find a lefty American academic again, to get past the bsnub filter...

This probably won't cut it either, because he's not lefty enough, perhaps?
https://mises.org/library/rothbards-...-years-later#5
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_von_Mises

How about this guy? Will you tolerate his definition?
Statism

How about a quote straight from the mouth of a real live National Socialist?

“All property is common property,” wrote Nazi spokesman Ernst Huber, “The owner is bound by the people and Reich to the responsible management of his goods. His legal position is only justified when he satisfies this responsibility to the community. … There are no personal liberties of the individual which fall outside of the realm of the state and which must be respected by the state.”

Forbes Welcome
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_Rudolf_Huber

Aw c'mon? Volksgemeinschaft? Strasserism? You must know about the Socialist tradition of Nazism, surely?

How about slides 8-12 of this secondary school website on Fuhrerprinzip for GCSE history:
http://goffs.herts.sch.uk/documents/...fnaziparty.pdf

For the benefit of Americans, Secondary School = High School, and GCSE exams take place at age 16 after studying from age 11. I don't know what "grade" that corresponds to.

On the schools tip, here's what I think is an appropriate guide for people like you, who seem to have missed out on education and learning skills, growing up:

(Photo: Getty)

A handy guide to Left-wing people for the under 10s



Culture Features Home News
Andy Shaw
28 Oct 2016





Left-wing people in the olden days
Left-wing people used to like working-class people.
Lots of left-wing people used to be working-class people. These people were known as socialists and joined trade unions.
Sometimes working-class people used to frighten left-wing people, but they pretended that they weren’t frightened and were nice to them.
Left-wing people supported working-class people, gave them money, sat in rooms with them and wore badges to show that they cared more than right-wing people, who wore ties instead of badges and didn’t care.
Nowadays
Nowadays, working-class people are bored with socialism because it hasn’t made them rich and happy.
Nowadays left-wing people are middle-class people. Working class people are a big disappointment to left-wing people.
Left wing people now think that working class people are:
a) Simple and easily led
b) Un-enlightened and susceptible to short-term pleasures
c) Terribly sad and struggling, unable to cope on their own
d) All of the above
Education is a life-long task
Left-wing people think that working-class people are unable to think for themselves and require life-long education to help them make informed decisions.
Left-wing people work tirelessly on education programmes to encourage working class people to buy expensive food and clothes and not cheap food and clothes. They are disappointed that working-class people are un-ethical.

Working-class people like to drink alcohol, have sex and eat tasty food. They do not understand that these activities are dangerous and need continuous education from left-wing people.
Working-class people need to be protected from newspapers, even though they don’t read them anymore. They are easily influenced and their happy-go-lucky ways can be turned into bigoted nasty ways. Left-wing people are needed to help them use Facebook carefully and not make mistakes.
Left-wing people like to be sad and unhappy
Many left-wing people have a very nice life, but they like to be sad. To help with this, they choose to be sad for other people. Sometimes these people are far away and sometimes they are nearby, but different to them.
In the olden days, left-wing people tried to make it better for other people. Nowadays, they like to protect them by being offended when a working-class person doesn’t behave properly.
Left-wing like to help other people by being offended on their behalf. This means that the other people can carry on with their lives and the left-wing people do all the work. This isn’t really fair, but the left-wing people seem to carry on doing it, so they must enjoy it. Despite all this effort left-wing people are still very sad.
Left-wing people care more than other people
Left-wing people care so much that they love the whole entire planet. Other people don’t care about the planet, they only care about themselves and other people that they know. This means that left-wing people have to love the planet even more, even more than they actually like other people.
Left-wing people show that they care by telling other people about how much they care. They send special “I care” signals to other people. Forwarding videos on Facebook is one way that they can show how much they care. The videos often show people far away who are living miserable lives, but pictures of cute fluffy chickens in nasty factories are considered sufficient.
Left-wing activists (see below) are very helpful. They make lots of “I care” videos which makes it quick and easy for left-wing people to send their “signals”. They do this several times throughout each day when they are not busy.

Sometimes Left-wing people are made angry by other people
Left-wing people care so much, it makes them hate people who don’t show that they care. These people are right-wing people. Left-wing people have given them a name. It is “Tory scum”. Left-wing people like to shout at the right-wing people and tell them that they are scum even when they aren’t listening.
Shouting at the Tories is another way to show that they care. Caring is very important to left-wing people.
Left-wing people care so deeply that they don’t have time for thinking and convincing. They use their precious time for shouting about caring.
Also, working-class people don’t know what left-wing people are saying, so it is helpful when they point to the right-wing people and shout “scum”. They think that working-class people do understand shouting and caring.
If you have observed someone and you are not sure if they are a left-wing person, seek their opinion on “the Tories”. If they start to shout and care, they are left-wing.
Left-wing activists are helpful
Left-wing activists are left-wing people who have an internet connection. They make the internet very loud.
Left-wing activists help other people care on the internet. They are very helpful in pointing out when people have forgotten to show that they care. They help people in many ways – watching videos, commenting on things and clicking on buttons called “start a petition”. Left-wing activists sometimes go outside their houses and meet other left-wing people and they care together and shout at the Tory scum.
Left-wing people are funny
Left-wing people have “enlightened comedians” who make jokes on “panel games”. These are broadcast on the television and BBC Radio 4.
The enlightened comedians make people laugh at right-wing people, whom they consider stupid. In the olden days, comedians made jokes about Irish people, but these comedians weren’t clever like the enlightened comedians.
Instead of the Irish people, the enlightened comedians make jokes about working-class people.
Because they care, they use special words like “Glaswegians”, “Sun readers” and “UKIP supporters”, so the working-class people will not notice.
Working-class people do funny things like drinking Monster energy drinks, eating Haribos and watching television. This is funny and the enlightened comedians are helpful because they point at them and laugh, so we know who to laugh at as well. It is very funny and we all laugh because we are enlightened too.
Further reading
In the 1930’s George Orwell wrote about the left-wing people he knew in “The Road to Wigan Pier”. It is very funny.

I have known numbers of middle class Socialists, I have listened by the hour to their tirades against their own class, and yet never, not even once, have I met one who had picked up proletarian table-manners. In his heart he feels that proletarian manners are disgusting…he hates, fears, and despises the working class.

https://life.spectator.co.uk/2016/10...the-under-10s/

[AntRobertson]

He's right though: the notion of Nazism as socialism has been widely debunked in academic circles.

The serious ones anyway.

Also for someone so long-winded the majority of your posts just devolve down to ranting about 'lefties'.

[Humbert]

^^bsnub and others who actually spend quite a bit of time in this forum, unlike CaptainNemo who only rarely appears here, are bored with having to make the same arguments over and over again for people who just drop in. Justifiably dismissive. Feel free to drop in again any time and bestow upon us your enlightened opinions.

[ENT]

He's right though: the notion of Nazism as socialism has been widely debunked in academic circles.

The serious ones anyway.

Liar.
Quote your "serious" sources.

[ENT]

^^bsnub and others who actually spend quite a bit of time in this forum, unlike CaptainNemo who only rarely appears here, are bored with having to make the same arguments over and over again for people who just drop in. Justifiably dismissive. Feel free to drop in again any time and bestow upon us your enlightened opinions.

There are none so blind as the ignorant.

[AntRobertson]

I refer you to Humbert's post, bENT.

You're a fruitcake and I can't be bothered dealing with your particular brand of logic gymnastics, obfuscation and disingenuous dribble. We've been through this before on other topics and you simply choose to believe something no matter how discredited it is.

[ENT]

In other words you have no sources to quote from nor give to support your contention that "the notion of Nazism as socialism has been widely debunked in academic circles.....The serious ones anyway." (post# 135)

[AntRobertson]

If you say so bENT. But that's not what I said. In fact I was perfectly clear.

But then you're a renowned loon and not terribly bright so...

At least you've found the right thread too though I suppose.

[ENT]

If you say so bENT. But that's not what I said. In fact I was perfectly clear.

Liar again.

You clearly said in post #135;
"the notion of Nazism as socialism has been widely debunked in academic circles.....The serious ones anyway."

Would you like to deny that again?

[AntRobertson]

You're a fruitcake and I can't be bothered dealing with your particular brand of logic gymnastics, obfuscation and disingenuous dribble. We've been through this before on other topics and you simply choose to believe something no matter how discredited it is.

Q.E.D.

[ENT]

[harrybarracuda]

Let me help you out.

Nazism was not socialism because it was based on race and not class.

I would suggest you google that phrase, and when you've read enough, fuck off anyway because you still won't believe it.

[ENT]

Nazism was not socialism because it was based on race and not class.

Dunno where you get your definitions from harry, maybe Marks and Spencer's, but certainly not from any political studies.

Ever heard of National Socialism?

[AntRobertson]

It's always right wing morons that try to pass Nazism off as socialism because in the mind of a right wing moron that therefore makes socialism/'lefties' bad.

Because Godwins Law. And because silly logical fallacies.

[ENT]

It's always right wing morons that try to pass Nazism off as socialism because in the mind of a right wing moron that therefore makes socialism/'lefties' bad.

Because Godwins Law. And because silly logical fallacies.

Do you actually know what you're talking about?
I doubt it, as you're just running off your usual trite little put-downs instead of offering reason or at least some references to your absurd claims.

Nazism is a short term for National Socialism, one of several forms of socialism which include Utopian Socialism and Democratic Socialism, while Communist Socialism is another form.

[AntRobertson]

Nazism is a short term for National Socialism

And DPRK is short for the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, aka North Korea.

Is North Korea a democracy, bENT?

No it isn't. Like I said: right wing morons.

[ENT]

Nazism is a short term for National Socialism

And DPRK is short for the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, aka North Korea.

Is North Korea a democracy?

No it isn't. Like I said: right wing morons.

Another red herring, Aunty,...it doesn't work.

Nazism means National Socialism, like it or not,...a nationalistic form of socialism.

Didn't you know that?

[harrybarracuda]

Nazism is a short term for National Socialism

And DPRK is short for the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, aka North Korea.

Is North Korea a democracy, bENT?

No it isn't. Like I said: right wing morons.