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    Sheriff supports the electric chair

    So what are your thoughts on a Sheriff Deputy, in an official capacity and endorsed by the Sheriff, making a post on FB with a picture and video on the topic of electric chairs?

    Facebook post of electric chair on Wayne County Sheriff?s Office page grabs attention - Break News - Ohio

    "The Wayne County Sheriff’s Office got a lot of attention with the posting on Monday on Facebook of a picture of an electric chair.

    The message was: “Time to bring back consequences.”



    A blue line representing law enforcement runs through the image.

    The posting got 5,557 likes, 1,476 comments and 3,875 shares.

    Capt. Doug Hunter, in a later YouTube video, defended the post, saying Sheriff Travis Hutchinson supported it.

    “The world is not rainbows, puppy dogs and unicorns, folks,” the post said.

    “Society has gone soft on criminals and that needs to change,” Hunter said in a nearly four-minute video".

    The same Sheriff deputy later posted this video in regards to his posting:



    I looked this up on several different sites looking for articles with comments and mostly what I found is people supporting the return of "Old Sparky.

    ** This was precipitated by the killing of a police officer in Danville, OH a town of about 1,000 people. The town is 98% white and the killer is white.

    https://www.facebook.com/waynecountysheriff/

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    I think it's time to start repealing racist drugs law and take law enforcement like this cnut off the street.

    Give him a job driving a garbage truck in a negro neighborhood.!

    As far as the ol' sparky is concerned; sure bring it back!
    Reserve it's use for lying cheating politicians!

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    let me get this straight

    the retard wants to carry around an electric chair and instead of shooting random blackfellas he encounters during the day he wants to crispy them in the chair ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    let me get this straight

    the retard wants to carry around an electric chair and instead of shooting random blackfellas he encounters during the day he wants to crispy them in the chair ?
    In a nutshell what the guy is saying, I believe, is that the USA has become soft on crime and the current laws are not an effective deterrent.

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    ^

    The thought of increased Capital punishment excites me.

    I truly believe the defective humans who rape kids, murder people and generally commit horrific crime have forfeited their right to walk amounst us.

    Human life is not sacred.

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    ^ Wot he said. Except it is most countries in the West.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terry57
    The thought of increased Capital punishment excites me. I truly believe the defective humans who rape kids, murder people and generally commit horrific crime have forfeited their right to walk amounst us. Human life is not sacred.
    Agree with that 100%

    However, the death sentence should only be given if if it's proven without a shadow of a doubt the person is guilty... otherwise mandatory life imprisonment should be the next step down..

    Reason being, there have been many cases of people being imprisoned and dare I say, executed.. when at a later date, they have found further evidence that vindicated that person's innocence.

    Remember, there is no 2nd chance from the finality of the death penalty, so there must be no room for doubt.

    Final point... I don't agree with the electric chair, it's inhumane... I know, I know.. they didn't show any remorse to said victim... but we should be 'better than them' and afford them a quick death...otherwise we are no better than them IMHO.

    This is such an emotional issue.. I've wavered and changed my mind many times over my life about this... anyway.. interested to hear your guys views.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NZdick1983
    proven without a shadow of a doubt the person is guilty
    Fair nuff but in the US juries are instructed to find guilt "beyond a reasonable doubt". Result is innocent folk are convicted and some guilty as hell are acquited.


    Quote Originally Posted by NZdick1983
    afford them a quick death
    Firing squads and chopping of the head work well.
    Kim's method appears best. One big anti arcraft gun has got to be quick.


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    https://www.dartmouth.edu/~chance/te...es/JLpaper.pdf

    "If executions protected innocent lives through deterrence, that would weigh
    in the balance against capital punishment's heavy social costs. But despite
    years of trying, this benefit has not been shown to exist; the only proven
    effects of capital punishment are its liabilities. The expansion of the death
    penalty in New Hampshire would be a practical and a moral step backwards.

    Supreme Court Justice Blackmun, a Nixon appointee, ruled in the Furman case
    that capital punishment is not per se unconstitutional. That does not mean it
    is a good policy. An excerpt from Blackmun's Furman opinion can well
    conclude this paper:

    "I yield to no one in the depth of my distaste, antipathy, and, indeed,
    abhorrence, for the death penalty.... That distaste is buttressed by a
    belief that capital punishment serves no useful purpose that can be
    demonstrated."

    Entire research article is in the link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Storekeeper
    So what are your thoughts on a Sheriff Deputy, in an official capacity and endorsed by the Sheriff, making a post on FB with a picture and video on the topic of electric chairs?
    This is Michigan right? And they don't have the death penalty?

    Either way he should shut his donut eating gob. He's entitled to his own private opinions but shouldn't be expressing them through his office.

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    ^ Agree with that, Rob.

    It's unprofessional of him.. he's not a politician and shouldn't broadcast his opinions (however valid) especially on such a touchy subject.

    His duty/job description is to catch crims (shoot unarmed black men) and eat donuts

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson
    This is Michigan right
    Ohio ... Same county as the College of Wooster where David Bowie's son went.

    Close to/part of Amish country.

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    It is very expensive to execute someone in the US.

    It cost taxpayers at leat $1+ million on average. It also takes too long.

    If violent criminals with habitual records, seks predators, those who harm children were tried and convicted fairly I'd support many, many, more people going to the electric chair than doing 25 years or life.

    But it won't be the case.
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    ^ It wasn't always that way, the death penalty used to work just fine. I love the story of Jack Gilbert Graham, who committed the first act of air piracy in the USA in 1955 when he hid a bomb in his own mother's suitcase bringing down a United Airlines DC-6

    The crime happened on November 1st 1955, he was convicted on May 5, 1956 and executed on January 11, 1957, only 14 months after the crime.

    Ironically there was no Federal Law that specifically forbid putting a bomb on an airplane, so the State of Colorado took the easy way out; they tried him for the single premeditated death of his mother.


    John Gilbert Graham
    January 23, 1932
    Denver, Colorado
    Died January 11, 1957 (aged 24)
    Colorado State Penitentiary
    Caņon City, Colorado
    Cause of death Execution
    Nationality American
    Spouse(s) Gloria A. Elson
    Parent(s) William H. Graham and Daisie E. Walker
    Motive Life insurance money
    Killings
    Date November 1, 1955
    7:02 p.m.
    Location(s) Longmont, Colorado
    Target(s) Mother and passengers
    Killed 44
    Weapons Dynamite bomb

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Gilbert_Graham

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    Quote Originally Posted by NZdick1983 View Post
    ^ Agree with that, Rob.

    It's unprofessional of him.. he's not a politician and shouldn't broadcast his opinions (however valid) especially on such a touchy subject.

    His duty/job description is to catch crims (shoot unarmed black men) and eat donuts
    Is he an elected official?


    (And more to the point, is there an election coming up?).

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by NZdick1983 View Post
    ^ Agree with that, Rob.

    It's unprofessional of him.. he's not a politician and shouldn't broadcast his opinions (however valid) especially on such a touchy subject.

    His duty/job description is to catch crims (shoot unarmed black men) and eat donuts
    Is he an elected official?


    (And more to the point, is there an election coming up?).
    His boss is the elected official who authorized him to put the picture on the official FB page. As far as elections go .... where this is it usually comes down to two Republicans running against each other.

    FYI ... population around this area is 98% Caucasian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by NZdick1983
    proven without a shadow of a doubt the person is guilty
    Fair nuff but in the US juries are instructed to find guilt "beyond a reasonable doubt". Result is innocent folk are convicted and some guilty as hell are acquited.


    Quote Originally Posted by NZdick1983
    afford them a quick death
    Firing squads and chopping of the head work well.
    Kim's method appears best. One big anti arcraft gun has got to be quick.

    In the good old days that was true, but now with DNA the scene is some what different .

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    Quote Originally Posted by NZdick1983
    This is such an emotional issue.. I've wavered and changed my mind many times over my life about this... anyway.. interested to hear your guys views.
    I went back to the Sheriff's FB and my input was we should go back to public hangings in the town square and make it mandatory attendance for anybody 18 and under. Even though the death penalty has been proven not to deter murders we might as well go all in if we're going to do it and make it as gruesome as possible.

    Fukcknuckles like this Sheriff do nothing but incite a mob mentality and the posts reflect that.

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    ^ Yes, I agree with you SK...

    If you asked me just a couple years ago, we would be at opposite ends of the spectrum...

    I don't know if the Sheriff had gained permission from his superiors (lets presume he had) I still stick to my guns and contend that it's wrong for policeman plod (in uniform) to talk from his soapbox (squad car) in such a manner.

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