similar to plans , but often not as cunningOriginally Posted by Horatio Hornblower
similar to plans , but often not as cunningOriginally Posted by Horatio Hornblower
Avoiding all the bullshit above other than the original question, I think there is little doubt that the cretins in the FBI and the joke of Homeland Security have repeatedly been complicit in dragging "terrorist plotters" far further down the road than they would have gone if left to their own very limited imaginations.
Go on the web....identify a couple of retards chatting about 'blowin up da gubmint'. Join their little chat fest. Offer to bring snacks and C4 to a meeting. Hand over the C4 at the meeting, after dumb and dumber have laid out their half-baked idiotic plot trying to impress their new 'friend' with what deadly dudes they are.
Have your buddies swoop in and arrest the retards.
Declare victory and put another gold star in the "thwarted terrorist attack" column.
I would put nothing past the FBI and HS.
they also played the same game regarding drugs. De Lorean. entrapment.Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower
Whats frightening if the reports are correct,is there offering financial rewards to the would be terrorists, or just threatening them if they don't engage in the plots, there'll go to jail anyway.
The people there going after are, people down in there luck'or mentally ill persons.
No doubt other countries are undertaking the same sort of programs.
Somehow it was different with drugs since the motive there was entirely financial, and unlike terrorism the idea of selling drugs did not appeal to nuts. There also had to be some previous inclination to sell drugs for law enforcement to involve itself in the plot and help it along without losing the case to entrapment.
The present state of our home countries is depressing.
The entrapment cases in the US are still going on,regarding drugs,since the financial crisis and the cuts to police budgets they now get financial rewards for the number of arrests made and convictions very scary place.
when i see people doing the most disgusting and horrible things to fellow humans and then justify it by saying ' it's what i'm paid to do' ' am really not a filthy bastard'.Originally Posted by BobR
^Budgets. Job security. Ego.
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Exactly.
All disgusting reasons for the people slaughtered, deformed and made homeless, along with every other person on the planet that has to live with the hate it creates and ever dwindling personal freedom.
Dapper not only US govt.
Jeff when you have Misanthropes following you around constantly and know there agendas,which are perfectly transparent, I react with the contempt they deserve.
The one early on in this thread is a self confessed Misanthrope, and a friend of Buadhai need i say anymore.
There inclination to be disruptive and there behavioral patterns are part and parcel of there misanthrope survival within society.
Misanthropy can be a truly positive entity amongst circles.
Depending on one's perspective.
The argument that these people they entrap are terrorists simply waiting for someone to motivate them by supplying money, materials, encouragement is sound. By entrapping them you take them off the streets eliminating the danger they pose and disrupting the terrorists by making their US based recruits fear entrapment when the real terrorists contact them.
Only problem is that this represents a very small element of the risk posed by terrorists, thus this is a distraction and waist to resources that would be better spent looking for the groups of relatives, childhood friends and lonely hearts one their own chasing their 79 virgins terrorists. not to mention the life one is needless destroying with the 25 year sentence, and I guess more relevant to the tea party.... millions spent incarcerating a harmless loon.
The approach in the uk is initially to do quick surveillance not with a view of going to court... but gathering enough evidence so that it can be presented to the bad boys family in a away that they cannot deny to themselves that their son/daughter's gone of the rails... and get the family to sort out their own kids. Then concentrate on the ones that carryon after this intervention. They started doing it for the UK olympics and its seems too have worked.
but i think this is down to a cultural difference between the UK and US. The US does seem to be more into crime and punishment rather than intervention and prevention, you see this in child protection too.
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Hazz Entrapment is an offence that wouldn't have been committed,though through enforcement agencies making a situation to get a result that they want, to encourage persons that are in dire straits/mentally unstable with financial gain or threats of imprisonment if they don't commit the crime,is beyond belief.
Its terrorism.
An office that was committed by someone who would have carried out a terrorist attack if they had met a terrorist organisation rather than a government agent provocateur.
But as I pointed out the exercise is of little value, the entrapment does not reflect the logistics of islamic terrosim in the US and is unlikely going to catch anyone dangerous.
Thats the point,these people are sought out not through affilations to terrorists groups, but for agendas of enforcement agencies.
slightly off topic have a look at this case.
its beyond belief that these agencies are willing to fuck up peoples lives for there own pursuit of financial gain/political gain through arrests of US citizens.
The Entrapment of Jesse Snodgrass: How an Autistic Teen Got Targeted By an Undercover Cop | Rolling Stone
Theres a video of this on youtube and its unbelievable to what extent there willing to go to.
If you love your children and hate cruelty to dogs please share. If anybody wants 10 grand to waste some infidels in walmart please email me at allahuakbar@cia.gov. I bet 90% of you won't share this because you're bad people. God bless you.
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the bbc aired a rather decent docu in their storyville series
its the human equivalent of watching train crash in slow motion.
Thanks Hazz for posting the BBC Storyville documentary , I watched it a few weeks ago .kept thinking about it when reading the OP
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