Thread: Stop allowing immigrants into the UK.

Originally Posted by chassamui

The EU must come up

EU won't come up with anything reasonable

Originally Posted by chassamui

Britain is not a fit country for genuine refugees. There are too many racist bigots full of hatred for one thing.
The problem is not helped by economic migrants jumping on the bandwagon. The EU must come up with a method of filtering people in the camps adjacent to Syria. Like a triage system based on need.

I would say that it is fine for genuine refuggees. What the bigots and racists are getting confused with is the 100,000 + Romanians etc who have flooded the streets of the UK.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Romanians etc who have flooded the streets of the UK

I don't like beggars. You know your money to them goes to mafia?

I do think the UK government is moving in the right direction, agreeing to take the worst cases from camps outside Syria is a start.
If the EU insists on UK taking more then they must also accept it has to be done on UK's terms, and allow benefits restrictions for EU migrants.

I only hope the 'let them come brigade' don't regret it.

pat condell, as usual, is spot on.

Originally Posted by taxexile

pat condell, as usual, is spot on.

Disappointed in you with that comment. You are usually sufficiently erudite to express your own opinions without resorting to that kind of mindless guff.

Originally Posted by chassamui

Originally Posted by taxexile

pat condell, as usual, is spot on.

Disappointed in you with that comment. You are usually sufficiently erudite to express your own opinions without resorting to that kind of mindless guff.

Pat Condell is making a living pandering to the racist nightmares of NF-tattoo'ed simian knuckle-draggers.

So it's not difficult to picture any cretin that cheers on his witless blathering.

^^

well, i happen to think he raises many valid opinions and points.

muslims with any degree of orthodoxy, and increasing orthodoxy is de rigeur these days, are happiest amongst their own, and due to the demands put upon those who wish to follow the path of islam (food, prayers, fasting, arranged marriage), full integration into an alien society is rarely possible.

couple that with their demands that the host society adapts to their needs rather than the other way round and it is a recipe for trouble, especially so given the increasingly vitriolic nature of their preachers who seem to despise everything that the west stands for.

if only muslim societies were as tolerant of western culture and non muslim immigration as we are encouraged to be of theirs.

Originally Posted by taxexile

^^

well, i happen to think he raises many valid opinions and points.

muslims with any degree of orthodoxy, and increasing orthodoxy is de rigeur these days, are happiest amongst their own, and due to the demands put upon those who wish to follow the path of islam (food, prayers, fasting, arranged marriage), full integration into an alien society is rarely possible.

couple that with their demands that the host society adapts to their needs rather than the other way round and it is a recipe for trouble, especially so given the increasingly vitriolic nature of their preachers who seem to despise everything that the west stands for.

if only muslim societies were as tolerant of western culture and non muslim immigration as we are encouraged to be of theirs.

Much better. Green owed

Nazi globalist and obama mentor and controller George soros says European countries must all bring in a million immigrants each, each year.


Destroy nation states. Its what it is all about and the politicians you all love and trust are working the plan laughing at you.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Nazi globalist and obama mentor and controller George soros says European countries must all bring in a million immigrants each, each year.


Destroy nation states. Its what it is all about and the politicians you all love and trust are working the plan laughing at you.

^An outstanding album.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Destroy nation states

EU agenda.

Destroy everything you touch

George Soros: Here?s my plan to solve the asylum chaos - MarketWatch

Opinion: George Soros: Here’s my plan to solve the asylum chaos

The European Union needs one comprehensive plan, with human rights at the core



The European Union needs to accept responsibility for the lack of a common asylum policy, which has transformed this year’s growing influx of refugees from a manageable problem into yet another political crisis.

Each member state has selfishly focused on its own interests, often acting against the interests of others. This precipitated panic among asylum seekers, the general public and the authorities responsible for law and order. Asylum seekers have been the main victims.

The EU needs a comprehensive plan to respond to the crisis, one that reasserts effective governance over the flows of asylum-seekers so that they take place in a safe, orderly way, and at a pace that reflects Europe’s capacity to absorb them. To be comprehensive, the plan has to extend beyond the borders of Europe. It is less disruptive and much less expensive to maintain potential asylum-seekers in or close to their present location.

As the origin of the current crisis is Syria, the fate of the Syrian population has to be the first priority. But other asylum seekers and migrants must not be forgotten. Similarly, a European plan must be accompanied by a global response, under the authority of the United Nations and involving its member states. This would distribute the burden of the Syrian crisis over a larger number of states, while also establishing global standards for dealing with the problems of forced migration more generally.

Here are the six components of a comprehensive plan.

First, the EU has to accept at least a million asylum-seekers annually for the foreseeable future. And, to do that, it must share the burden fairly — a principle that a qualified majority finally established at a Sept. 23 summit.

Adequate financing is critical. The EU should provide 15,000 euros ($16,800) per asylum-seeker for each of the first two years to help cover housing, health-care and education costs — and to make accepting refugees more appealing to member states. It can raise these funds by issuing long-term bonds using its largely untapped AAA borrowing capacity, which will have the added benefit of providing a justified fiscal stimulus to the European economy.

It is equally important to allow both states and asylum-seekers to express their preferences, using the least possible coercion. Placing refugees where they want to go – and where they are wanted – is a sine qua non of success.

Second, the EU must lead the global effort to provide adequate funding to Lebanon, Jordan and Turkey to support the four million refugees currently living in those countries.

Thus far, only a fraction of the funding needed for even basic care has been raised. If education, training, and other essential needs are included, the annual costs are at least 5,000 euros per refugee, or 20 euros billion. EU aid today to Turkey, though doubled last week, still amounts to just 1 billion euros. In addition, the EU also should help create special economic zones with preferred trade status in the region, including in Tunisia and Morocco, to attract investment and generate jobs for both locals and refugees.

The EU would need to make an annual commitment to frontline countries of at least 8 billion to 10 billion euros, with the balance coming from the United States and the rest of the world. This could be added to the amount of long-term bonds issued to support asylum-seekers in Europe.

Third, the EU must immediately start building a single EU Asylum and Migration Agency and eventually a single EU Border Guard*. The current patchwork of 28 separate asylum systems does not work: it is expensive, inefficient and produces wildly inconsistent results in determining who qualifies for asylum. The new agency would gradually streamline procedures; establish common rules for employment and entrepreneurship, as well as consistent benefits; and develop an effective, rights-respecting return policy for migrants who do not qualify for asylum.

Fourth, safe channels must be established for asylum-seekers, starting with getting them from Greece and Italy to their destination countries. This is urgent in order to calm the panic. The next logical step is to extend safe avenues to the frontline region, thereby reducing the number of migrants who make the dangerous Mediterranean crossing. If asylum-seekers have a reasonable chance of ultimately reaching Europe, they are far more likely to stay where they are. This will require negotiating with frontline countries, in cooperation with the UN Refugee Agency, to establish processing centers there — with Turkey as the priority.

The operational and financial arrangements developed by the EU should be used to establish global standards for the treatment of asylum-seekers and migrants. This is the fifth piece of the comprehensive plan.

Finally, to absorb and integrate more than a million asylum seekers and migrants a year, the EU needs to mobilize the private sector — NGOs, church groups and businesses — to act as sponsors. This will require not only sufficient funding, but also the human and IT capacity to match migrants and sponsors.

The exodus from war-torn Syria should never have become a crisis. It was long in the making, easy to foresee and eminently manageable by Europe and the international community. Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán has now also produced a six-point plan to address the crisis. But his plan, which subordinates the human rights of asylum-seekers and migrants to the security of borders, threatens to divide and destroy the EU by renouncing the values on which it was built and violating the laws that are supposed to govern it.

The EU must respond with a genuinely European asylum policy that will put an end to the panic and the unnecessary human suffering.

George Soros is chairman of Soros Fund Management and of the Open Society Foundations.



* One of the goals, as seen in caMorons continued destruction of the UK Armed forces and closer reliance on the French Military is the creation of a single, non national European Army. Will Europeans kill Irish? British? French? German civilians? YEs they will. Unlikely they will fight against their own country men though.

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There will never be European army, last time you tried it ended in tears. Today, UK and North would never accept it.

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

There will never be European army, last time you tried it ended in tears. Today, UK and North would never accept it.

Ohh come on. You try to pretend to be soooooo knowledgeable as well.

Tip toe totalitarian steps.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe...ence_Community
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milita...European_Union
Nato, Ukraine and the EU army plan | Letters | World news | The Guardian


Oh but it;s impossible? The public don't like it?

So caMoron the pig* fucker says "oh, we're not doing that"

David Cameron flies to Brussels determined to fight EU drones programme - Telegraph

but he's doing it anyway

David Cameron could be the 'guilty man' who destroyed Britain's defences, experts warn | UK | News | Daily Express

https://euobserver.com/news/121495

Its already underway. The problem you have is that you continue to believe the lies of these proven liars.


*rumours that the picture shows the dead... but it is not a pig. Might be the same age as a pig would be though.