Thread: New crisis in Europes

No, this time its not Greece or the Euro. It's the flood of refugees or asylum seekers that are dividing Europe. Here are a few headlines from the past weeks.

Syrian rebel leader seeks Europe – fleeing gov't and jihadis
Migrant 'chaos' on Greek islands - UN

Migrant crisis: 'Africans slashed, Arabs thrashed' by boat traffickers; UN says Greece conditions 'shameful'

Migrant crisis: 'Africans slashed, Arabs thrashed' by boat traffickers

Europe's worst summer

Migrant 'chaos' on Greek islands - UN refugee agency - BBC ...

Europe migrant crisis: 80,000 will seek asylum in Austria in 2015 - and for many, this former barracks in Traiskirchen is the end of the road

Minister admits migrant problem worse than predicted, blames Hungary-Serbia border wall

Hungary Prime Minister Orban has vowed that a wall across the 106-mile border with Serbia will be finished by August.


GREECE’S government has begun the work of processing the thousands of refugees — who have recently arrived on the island of Kos — to a huge cruise ship specifically commissioned for the purpose.
Summer crisis tests Europe's new nationalisms

Instead of building walls, the UK must do more to help the Calais asylum seekers

‘The Swarm’ from Calais: a horror movie not showing near you

Asylum seeker shot as mafias clash at French migrant camp run by British gangsters


Poland: No paradise for migrants

Germany expecting 650,000 refugees this year: report

German development minister calls for billions for Syria's neighbors

International protection in Luxembourg. Record number of asylum seekers from Syria


High frequency of gastrointestinal parasites in refugees and asylum seekers upon arrival in Sweden.


Europe migrant crisis: Surge in numbers at EU borders

Greek islands turmoil: Police on Kos use batons to disperse migrants as chaos boils over

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

I've been following this, I think it's great; it's gonna fuk Germany right up... One mayor, I can't remember which town, said that he'd have to build a highrise block of flats every day to accommodate the new Germans coming into the country...

Europe [including Great Britain] is becoming one giant mindfuck.

Largely, brought on by themselves.
Comes around.

They need to fill that fucking tunnel in.

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

I've been following this, I think it's great; it's gonna fuk Germany right up... One mayor, I can't remember which town, said that he'd have to build a highrise block of flats every day to accommodate the new Germans coming into the country...

Edit, sorry - not into Germany, but into his town alone; massive numbers. The Americans moan about a few Mexicans then work on global terror so that the entire 3rd world moves to Europe; seemingly Germany at this moment in time - well, if you wanna be at the centre of Federal Europe, enjoy... Time for the UK to get the fuk out of Europe, block the tunnel and get the drone mines in the seas around - very 1984...

Can't fuck up Germany or else your greek relatives will have to join the refugees. Then again...they already have.

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

I've been following this, I think it's great; it's gonna fuk Germany right up... One mayor, I can't remember which town, said that he'd have to build a highrise block of flats every day to accommodate the new Germans coming into the country...

Edit, sorry - not into Germany, but into his town alone; massive numbers. The Americans moan about a few Mexicans then work on global terror so that the entire 3rd world moves to Europe; seemingly Germany at this moment in time - well, if you wanna be at the centre of Federal Europe, enjoy... Time for the UK to get the fuk out of Europe, block the tunnel and get the drone mines in the seas around - very 1984...

Can't fuck up Germany or else your greek relatives will have to join the refugees. Then again...they already have.

Waiting for the EU to dissolve - then we'll see what tune the superior Germans will be singing....

I think it's great; it's gonna fuk Germany right up.

what is great about causing dissent, discord and disharmony in one of europes most stable states.

if germany gets "fukked right up", then its neighbours will too. thats no good for anybody.

Human migration is as old as time, it is inexorable.
However, if they spent the money for bombs and munitions on a fairer society we wouldn't be in this shit. C'est la vie.

Originally Posted by Neo

Human migration is as old as time, it is inexorable.
However, if they spent the money for bombs and munitions on a fairer society we wouldn't be in this shit. C'est la vie.

They don't even need to spend any money just have fair trade agreements with Africa so African countries can export their produce and goods to Europe without them being subject to crazy taxes.

The Aliens know that Europeans are soft and weak, who elect weaklings to lead them, the current Europeans are a soft cowardly race and the great European Prophet Darwin explained this , that the weak will be overcome.
Just ask the Native Americans what happened to them when they fed the pilgrim fathers on thanksgiving.
Big difference this time around,it's not a superior species taking over, but cockroaches.

Macedonia: State of emergency declared over migrants

20 August 2015
The Macedonian government has declared a state of emergency in two border regions to cope with growing numbers of migrants, state media have reported.
The move allows the army to be sent in to control the influx.
Macedonia is a major transit point for migrants heading from Greece to wealthier northern EU members.
Some 44,000 people have reportedly travelled through Macedonia in the past two months, many of them fleeing violence in Syria.
The army's involvement would "increase the level of security among our citizens in the two regions and allow for a more comprehensive approach towards the people expressing an interest in claiming asylum," said Interior Ministry spokesman Ivo Kotevski.
There have been chaotic scenes at Macedonia's southern border with Greece in recent days, as migrants attempt to clamber on to trains travelling towards Western Europe.
"Everyone is rushing for himself. There's a lot of danger of people being killed," Najeem, 24, from Afghanistan told the BBC at Gevgelija station.
Kumanovo, near the Serbian border in the north, has also been declared a crisis region.
Meanwhile in Greece, a government-chartered ferry has arrived at Piraeus port near Athens, after picking up almost 2,500 migrants from islands near the Turkish coast.
The ferry was chartered in response to worsening conditions on the island of Kos, where small boats have been arriving every day from the Turkish coast.
Although a newly-opened migrant reception centre will take several hundred of the arrivals, most are expected to head north to the border with Macedonia.
Greece has seen almost 160,000 people landing on its shores since January, the UN estimates, with 50,000 arriving in the past month alone.
By boosting security at its borders, Macedonia could create a backlog of migrants for Greece to cope with, analysts say.

Macedonia: State of emergency declared over migrants - BBC News

Originally Posted by taxexile

I think it's great; it's gonna fuk Germany right up.

what is great about causing dissent, discord and disharmony in one of europes most stable states.

if germany gets "fukked right up", then its neighbours will too. thats no good for anybody.

Thanxs, Taxexile !

Some Numbheads here are so envious that they don't realize not to cut off the hand thats feeding them.

Coincidentally enough just saw this:

Why Al Jazeera will not say Mediterranean 'migrants'

The word migrant has become a largely inaccurate umbrella term for this complex story.

20 Aug 2015 16:58 GMT | War & Conflict, Europe, Middle East

According to the UN, the majority of those landing on Europe's shores are fleeing war [Yannis Behrakis/Reuters]

Imagine waking your children in the morning. Imagine feeding and dressing them. Imagine pulling a little girl’s hair into a ponytail, arguing with a little boy about which pair of shoes he wants to wear.

Now imagine, as you are doing that, you know later today you will strap their vulnerable bodies into enveloping life jackets and take them with you in a rubber dinghy - through waters that have claimed many who have done the same.

Think of the story you’d have to tell to reassure them. Think of trying to make it fun. Consider the emotional strength needed to smile at them and conceal your fear.

What would it feel like if that experience – your frantic flight from war – was then diminished by a media that crudely labelled you and your family "migrants"?

And imagine having little voice to counter a description so commonly used by governments and journalists.

The umbrella term migrant is no longer fit for purpose when it comes to describing the horror unfolding in the Mediterranean. It has evolved from its dictionary definitions into a tool that dehumanises and distances, a blunt pejorative.

It is not hundreds of people who drown when a boat goes down in the Mediterranean, nor even hundreds of refugees. It is hundreds of migrants. It is not a person – like you, filled with thoughts and history and hopes – who is on the tracks delaying a train. It is a migrant. A nuisance.

It already feels like we are putting a value on the word. Migrant deaths are not worth as much to the media as the deaths of others - which means that their lives are not. Drowning disasters drop further and further down news bulletins. We rarely talk about the dead as individuals anymore. They are numbers.

When we in the media do this, when we apply reductive terminology to people, we help to create an environment in which a British foreign minister can refer to "marauding migrants," and in which hate speech and thinly veiled racism can fester.

We become the enablers of governments who have political reasons for not calling those drowning in the Mediterranean what the majority of them are: refugees.

We give weight to those who want only to see economic migrants.

The argument that most of those risking everything to land on Europe’s shores are doing it for money is not supported by the facts.

According to the UN, the overwhelming majority of these people are escaping war. The largest group are fleeing Syria, a country in which an estimated 220,000 to more than 300,000 people have been killed during its appalling and escalating war.

Many others come from Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Eritrea and Somalia – all places from which people are commonly given asylum.

There is no "migrant" crisis in the Mediterranean. There is a very large number of refugees fleeing unimaginable misery and danger and a smaller number of people trying to escape the sort of poverty that drives some to desperation.

So far this year, nearly 340,000 people in these circumstances have crossed Europe's borders. A large number, for sure, but still only 0.045 percent of Europe's total population of 740 million.

Contrast that with Turkey, which hosts 1.8 million refugees from Syria alone. Lebanon, in which there are more than one million Syrians. Even Iraq, struggling with a war of its own, is home to more than 200,000 people who have fled its neighbour.

There are no easy answers and taking in refugees is a difficult challenge for any country but, to find solutions, an honest conversation is necessary.

And much of that conversation is shaped by the media.

For reasons of accuracy, the director of news at Al Jazeera English, Salah Negm, has decided that we will no longer use the word migrant in this context. We will instead, where appropriate, say refugee.

At this network, we try hard through our journalism to be the voice of those people in our world who – for whatever reason – find themselves without one.

Migrant is a word that strips suffering people of voice. Substituting it for refugee is – in the smallest way – an attempt to give some back.

Why Al Jazeera will not say Mediterranean 'migrants' - Al Jazeera English

BTW there are considerations to separate the refugees by countries and faith because they are already fighting between groups. And of course there are already loud voices that racial profiling is unacceptable.

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Originally Posted by taxexile

I think it's great; it's gonna fuk Germany right up.

what is great about causing dissent, discord and disharmony in one of europes most stable states.

if germany gets "fukked right up", then its neighbours will too. thats no good for anybody.

Thanxs, Taxexile !

Some Numbheads here are so envious that they don't realize not to cut off the hand thats feeding them.

Would that be me?

Well many thanks my German brother for feeding us poor British folk - fuk me, we should have let the French and Ruskies tear you arrogant fukers into shreds as they wanted too...

You've been the worst trouble makers and Vandals across Europe since Roman times, and you're still at it; presuming yourselves superior, bullying everyone you're able too...

(I'm quite enjoying this anti-Germany stance I've found recently... )

Originally Posted by Neo

Human migration is as old as time, it is inexorable.
However, if they spent the money for bombs and munitions on a fairer society we wouldn't be in this shit. C'est la vie.

This kind of migration is not as old as time... it's very new... the hockey-stick graph since the 1990s is very unprecedented and as exorable as leaders want it to be. The inference there is that they don't want it to be. Globalisation is good for "growth", to hell with the inconvenience of ethnic/national identities.



What this graph doesn't show you is the continent/country/or ethnic origins, but the post war increase is clear, and we know it's largely from the commonwealth; and the more recent spurt from eastern europe.

Previously, America absorbed a lot of the disposessed; this predicted swarm across the Med, not simply to Europe, but to NW Europe, is new.


The answer is neo-colonialism - fix the source countries; make them better.

Originally Posted by CaptainNemo

The answer is neo-colonialism - fix the source countries; make them better.

Who pays?

Most of these immigrants are economic migrants.

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Originally Posted by taxexile

I think it's great; it's gonna fuk Germany right up.

what is great about causing dissent, discord and disharmony in one of europes most stable states.

if germany gets "fukked right up", then its neighbours will too. thats no good for anybody.

Thanxs, Taxexile !

Some Numbheads here are so envious that they don't realize not to cut off the hand thats feeding them.

Would that be me?

Well many thanks my German brother for feeding us poor British folk - fuk me, we should have let the French and Ruskies tear you arrogant fukers into shreds as they wanted too...

You've been the worst trouble makers and Vandals across Europe since Roman times, and you're still at it; presuming yourselves superior, bullying everyone you're able too...

(I'm quite enjoying this anti-Germany stance I've found recently... )

You are not going to make it better by laying in the streets and cry like a baby Bettybobolous.




Get up and saddle your sheep
...aheem I mean horses....ahemm I mean Porsche.

^ it's goats!

&, I'm not gonna solve anything, it's unsolvable; the UK is totally fuk'd. I'm just happy, out of sheer spite, that Germany is fuk'd too...

Have you seen the numbers flocking into Germany? You lot are heading for 1,000,000 migrants this year alone! Great job, Germany; keep up the good work...

I notice that Greek turncoat of a PM has resigned and is calling for a new election; hope the former Finance Minister runs and wins then gets them the fuk out of Europe saddling you lot with 50 billion + debt. I'll certainly be spending my holidays in Greece in future.

Net Migration to the UK in the year ending December 2014 was 318,000.

http://www.migrationwatchuk.org/late...ion-statistics

You lot are heading for 1,000,000 migrants this year alone!

Thanks to intelligence, forward planning, good housekeeping and a diligent workforce Germany can afford it.

Thanks to socialism, recalcitrant unions, a lazy workforce, silly management and a culture of handouts to the bone idle, the UK cannot.

kingwilly wrote me a note: idiot. its a fake manufactured crisis.

I read a lot of nonsense here on TD. But the old fart kingwilly (once again) takes the icing.

The message Europe is sending out is.you don't need a passport you don't need a visa you don't need money.
You don't even need reliable transport we will pick you up if your transport has mechanical issues.

How many are going to Russia.
Have they offered to take any ?

Originally Posted by billy the kid

How many are going to Russia.

None.

Originally Posted by billy the kid

Have they offered to take any ?

Nope.

Europe is gone. As an American of German decent who lived in the fatherland this is devastating. Those of you in the UK who think that you are not in the same boat are kidding yourselves.

The only way this can be fixed is by forced repatriation. They must be sent back.