Thread: 2016 Republican US Presidential Candidates

What real people think about Patriotism


“I do this real moron thing, and it's called thinking. And apparently I'm not a very good American because I like to form my own opinions.”
― George Carlin


“There is no flag large enough to cover the shame of killing innocent people.”
― Howard Zinn



“They wrote in the old days that it is sweet and fitting to die for one's country. But in modern war, there is nothing sweet nor fitting in your dying. You will die like a dog for no good reason.”
― Ernest Hemingway



“He who joyfully marches to music rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice. This disgrace to civilization should be done away with at once. Heroism at command, senseless brutality, deplorable love-of-country stance and all the loathsome nonsense that goes by the name of patriotism, how violently I hate all this, how despicable and ignoble war is; I would rather be torn to shreds than be part of so base an action! It is my conviction that killing under the cloak of war is nothing but an act of murder.”
― Albert Einstein

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

They certainly love him in Texas and throughout the United States where freedom and patriotism is valued!

A Canadian citizen pushing to shut down the US govt is now considered 'patriotism'?

You are through the looking glass now BM, and it cannot end well.

Oh yes, silly me forgot this one -


“Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.”
― Samuel Johnson


Over to you Ted

It's rather sickening to have to put up with the likes of Cruz being described as 'Patriots' (admittedly only by the loony right), while Edward Snowden & Glenn Greenwald are lambasted as Traitors.

Originally Posted by sabang

It's rather sickening to have to put up with the likes of Cruz being described as 'Patriots' (admittedly only by the loony right), while Edward Snowden & Glenn Greenwald are lambasted as Traitors.

Not at all.

One definition of a 'Patriot' is respect for the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

Not particularly the prevalent attitude 'if it fells right, do it' or 'how can it be wrong if it feels so right?' somehow doesn't get the job done in the end, does it?

Oh dear, Raf Cruz is certainly more intelligent than he is smart...

Ted Cruz Failed To Disclose Ties To Caribbean Holding Company

An old college friendship led to financial entanglement with a Jamaican private equity firm and a British Virgin Islands holding company. Neither was disclosed during his 2012 campaign.

Texas Republican Senator Ted Cruz violated ethics rules by failing to publicly disclose his financial relationship with a Caribbean-based holding company during the 2012 campaign, a review of financial disclosure and company documents by TIME shows. The relationship originated with a $6,000 investment Cruz made more than a decade ago in a Jamaican private equity firm founded by his college roommate.

When Cruz later reported the financial relationship in 2013, he failed to comply with Senate rules requiring full identification of the holding company and its location, triggering an inquiry by Senate Select Committee on Ethics staff and a second amended disclosure. After additional inquiries by TIME this week, Cruz said he is now in the process making further corrections to his disclosure.

Cruz then received an inquiry from the Senate ethics committee staff about the listing, Cruz and his staff told TIME. The ethics staff told Cruz to amend his filing to indicate the nature of the promissory note, the entity that had issued it, the city in which the entity was located and the date the note had been issued.

Cruz did so in his Oct. 1 amendment, but that filing also contained errors, misnaming the holding company, incorrectly saying it was domiciled in Jamaica, and giving the wrong date for the promissory note. In the filing, Cruz, a former lawyer and magna cum laude graduate of Harvard Law School, lists a wide variety of assets held jointly with his wife, including mutual funds and blue chip stocks totaling between $1.5 million and $4 million. Heidi Nelson Cruz is now an executive at Goldman Sachs.

Read more: Ted Cruz Failed To Disclose Ties To Caribbean Holding Company | TIME.com

^ How do you FAUX "news" guzzling Teanderthals defend the indefensible?

Over $100,000 from an initial $6,000 investment?

What did they invest in, cocaine?

Offshore investment firm that ended up going dormant = some kind of scam. Cruz fronted some money to run the scam - he was a partner in it. He made a 315% profit, and was promised another 1,250%. Does that sound legit?

And even if he doesn't collect on that promissory note, if the firm declares bankruptcy, he has a very nice little tax write-off there.

This has a whole lot of stink on it. That's not saying it'll go anywhere (the people who love Cruz won't care, and there's no middle ground with him people either love him or hate him), but it's a remarkably sleazy little thing to have float up. He may have figured he'd leave it off the disclosure so nobody would bring it up, and for a while that seems to have worked.

Suppose a Democrat had done this.

Republicans would start an investigation. If it concluded that he'd committed no crimes, they'd investigate again. And a third time, and a fourth time. If the fourth investigation looked like it wasn't going where they wanted it to, they'd fire the prosecutor and get a more aggressive one. Damn the price tag, full speed ahead, maybe the subject will tell a lie about something not germane to the investigation that could be spun as pretext for impeachment.

Originally Posted by quimbian corholla

Republicans would start an investigation.

They will. Dear Teds best enemies are in the republican party. Democrats and the remaining moderate republicans are quite unlike the right- they will presumably wait to see what substance and gravity is attached to this breach, before shooting their collective mouths off. Slipping the knife in suits them better than populist blowharding.

Maybe a Bush can wipe that disgusting smirk off Raf's mug? (and by the way, whoever does Raf's makeup should be fired- watch the video!!)

Top Republican Slams Ted Cruz: 'Show A Little Self-Restraint'


Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (R) said Sunday that Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) and other tea party members of Congress need to "show a little self-restraint" with their political strategizing, arguing that the government shutdown has badly damaged Republican policymaking priorities.
Speaking with ABC's John Karl, Bush said that problems with the basic structure of Obamacare and the law's flawed rollout would have done more to undermine the program than a hard-nosed GOP threat to shut down the government if the health care law was not defunded. The websites where people are supposed to buy health insurance under Obamacare have been effectively nonfunctional for millions of people since Oct. 1.
Karl asked Bush if he had a message for Cruz.
"Have a little bit of self-restraint," Bush replied. "It might actually be a politically better approach to see the massive dysfunction, but we don't even hear about that because we've stepped on that message ... show a little self-restraint and let this happen a little more organically."
Bush said the shutdown had damaged America's reputation abroad.
"When we have these political conversations that are not grounded in reality, the rest of the world looks at us as untrustworthy," Bush said.


Jeb Bush to GOP: ‘Have a Little Bit of Self-Restraint,’ Offer Alternative to Achieve Obamacare Repeal - ABC News

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

my Alma Mata

Try 'alma mater'.

These are the wages of Hate:

Figures. Ted Cruz Stalker Fueled By Democrat Party Messaging.

Haters gonna hate...

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by quimbian corholla

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

So, you believe it's cool & responsible to Post Ted's Home Address Online?

As long as his home address never becomes 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue I can't see how it matters.

It does't matter if his kids fall victim to some hate-mongering Fabien Socialists bent on revenge of some sort?

The Fabian Society is a British socialist organisation whose purpose is to advance the principles of socialism via gradualist and reformist, rather than revolutionary, means

Originally Posted by lysander

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by quimbian corholla

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

So, you believe it's cool & responsible to Post Ted's Home Address Online?

As long as his home address never becomes 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue I can't see how it matters.

It does't matter if his kids fall victim to some hate-mongering Fabien Socialists bent on revenge of some sort?

The Fabian Society is a British socialist organisation whose purpose is to advance the principles of socialism via gradualist and reformist, rather than revolutionary, means

I knew that but...there's always a radical or two in every organization.

Listened to Ted Cruz yesterday doin a speech
must have used 'the american people' 100 times
in 10 minutes.
well maybe not 100 but every other fooking sentence.

Some other senator flustered by interviewers questions sayin
'they keep kicking err, the ball errrr, they keep kickin the ball down the field'.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by lysander

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by quimbian corholla

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

So, you believe it's cool & responsible to Post Ted's Home Address Online?

As long as his home address never becomes 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue I can't see how it matters.

It does't matter if his kids fall victim to some hate-mongering Fabien Socialists bent on revenge of some sort?

The Fabian Society is a British socialist organisation whose purpose is to advance the principles of socialism via gradualist and reformist, rather than revolutionary, means

I knew that but...there's always a radical or two in every organization.

Except for the Tea Party where everyone single member is trying to outdo one another and whoever ends up furthest to the right is deemed the "winner" regardless of the consequences to the party and the country...

Originally Posted by TonyBKK

Except for the Tea Party where everyone single member is trying to outdo one another and whoever ends up furthest to the right is deemed the "winner" regardless of the consequences to the party and the country...

Apparently Ann Coulter is now a RINO too. Think about that.

Articles: Blame the Tea Party? Use Your Memory

Originally Posted by quimbian corholla

Apparently Ann Coulter is now a RINO too. Think about that.

Yeah, she's basically gone off the Reservation.

btw, Our Ted further explains himself by stating that he didn't come to Congress to make 99 new friends. Just get the job done:

“There’s an old saying that, ‘Politics, it ain’t beanbag.’ And, you know, I’m not serving in office because I desperately needed 99 new friends in the U.S. Senate,” Cruz told ABC News’ Jon Karl in his first on-camera interview after the shutdown came to an end Wednesday night."

Got that right, Ted!

You wanna friend? Get a dog.

Originally Posted by quimbian corholla

Apparently Ann Coulter is now a RINO too.

That clearly signals the coming end of the republican party.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by quimbian corholla

Apparently Ann Coulter is now a RINO too. Think about that.

Yeah, she's basically gone off the Reservation.

Boy that reservation keeps getting smaller and smaller and smaller doesn't it...

Who ever would have imagined the day that bat-shit crazy Ann Coulter would fall out of favor with the Teanderthals.

I'd like to ask Booners if he thinks Ted has benefited from the affirmative action programs.

He hasn't released his college transcripts, which would give that information.

He has worked for the government all of his life, and could have been promoted to fill ethnic quotas in Texas. He is the "first Hispanic" appointed Solicitor General in Texas.

What do you think?



Also, isn't it sort of crazy? A guy named Rafael Cruz who has worked for the government all his life fights immigration reform and government!

Something's up with this guy.

Originally Posted by misskit

I'd like to ask Booners if he thinks Ted has benefited from the affirmative action programs.

He hasn't released his college transcripts, which would give that information.

He has worked for the government all of his life, and could have been promoted to fill ethnic quotas in Texas. He is the "first Hispanic" appointed Solicitor General in Texas.

What do you think?



Also, isn't it sort of crazy? A guy named Rafael Cruz who has worked for the government all his life fights immigration reform and government!

Something's up with this guy.

Can't answer about his college transcripts although in the words of his professors, his IQ is off the charts smart.

He has released a true Birth Certificate as opposed to you-know-who and if he's been afforded special treatment thru Affirmative Action, my bet is no. He was elected fair & square with Tea Party help in the Great State of Texas.

You being from Jaw Jaw should be supporting a fellow southerner!

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Can't answer about his college transcripts

That is the law for all...

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

He has released a true Birth Certificate as opposed to you-know-who and if he's been afforded special treatment thru Affirmative Action

He is not native born. Period

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

He was elected fair & square with Tea Party help in the Great State of Texas.

No he really wasn't.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

You being from Jaw Jaw should be supporting a fellow southerner!

She is smarter than that.