2016 Republican US Presidential Candidates

**baldrick** · 01-07-2015, 10:35 AM

^ is the bloke on the right having a good look so he can save it to his wank bank ?

**Boon Mee** · 01-07-2015, 01:59 PM

Our Ted is on top of it, man!

Ted Cruz says states can ignore SCOTUS gay marriage ruling

The former Supreme Court clerk weighs in on the states with same-sex marriage bans and their obligation to adhere to the Supreme Court’s ruling on gay marriage. The distinction he makes is if a state is not named in the suit in question, it does not have to comply:

Ted Cruz has some unsolicited advice for the states not specifically named in last week’s Supreme Court ruling on gay marriage: Ignore it.

“Those who are not parties to the suit are not bound by it,” the Texas Republican told NPR News’ Steve Inskeep in an interview published on Monday. Since only suits against the states of Ohio, Tennessee, Michigan and Kentucky were specifically considered in the Supreme Court’s Obergefell v. Hodges decision, which was handed down last Friday, Cruz — a former Supreme Court clerk — believes that other states with gay marriage bans need not comply, absent a judicial order.

“[O]n a great many issues, others have largely acquiesced, even if they were not parties to the case,” the 2016 presidential contender added, “but there’s no legal obligation to acquiesce to anything other than a court judgement.”

Ted Cruz: States should ignore gay-marriage ruling - Adam B. Lerner - POLITICO

Why not? Ted is smarter than all the Supremes put together so perhaps he's got this one pegged, man

**panama hat** · 01-07-2015, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Ted Cruz has some unsolicited advice for the states not specifically named in last week’s Supreme Court ruling on gay marriage: Ignore it.

He does talk a lot of shit . . .

BM, I miss your Cruz av~

**Boon Mee** · 02-07-2015, 10:41 AM

CRUZ: ‘SAD’ US WILL HAVE EMBASSY IN HAVANA BEFORE HAVING AN EMBASSY IN JERURSALEM

No doubt...

"Republican presidential candidate and Texas Senator Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX)96%
denounced the US opening an embassy in Cuba wondering “How sad is it that under the Obama administration the United States is going to have an embassy in Havana before we have an embassy in Jerusalem?” on Wednesday’s “Hugh Hewitt Show.”

Cruz said, “I think this is a serious mistake. It’s a manifestation of the pattern of weakness and appeasement towards our enemies that has characterized the Obama-Clinton foreign policy. It’s the same pattern that occurred — that is occurring with regard to Russia, with regard to Iran, and it’s a very dangerous pattern. How sad is it that under the Obama administration the United States is going to have an embassy in Havana before we have an embassy in Jerusalem, that this administration will be friendlier to a Communist dictator who hates America and seeks to undermine our nation, than it is willing to stand with our close friend and ally, the nation of Israel? I think it’s wrong.”

Cruz continued, “The very first truth-teller featured in the book is a gentleman named Guillermo Farinas. He was a Cuban dissident. He used to be a member of Castro’s army. He was a Communist. In fact, his nickname was El Coco. And he describes how he went to the Soviet Union and somehow got his hand on a copy of George Orwell’s ‘Animal Farm.’ And it touched him powerfully, and he became a dissident, and he became a critic. He’s been imprisoned, he’s had hunger strikes. And Guillermo, and also another Cuban dissident named Elizardo Sanchez, both came to the United States about a year ago. I interviewed both of them for about a half hour in Spanish. We put out the video interview, but it was interesting, both of them predicted what the Obama administration has done. And both of them said that the Castros are following Putinissimo is what they called it, basically the philosophy of Putin, of appearing to liberalize, while in fact strengthening the repression. What Obama’s doing is sending billions of dollars that will only make the Castros stronger, oppressing, torturing, murdering their people, and also spreading terrorism throughout Latin America.”

He concluded, “I’ll tell you, Guillermo Farinas was back in the United States recently accepting an award for his principled stand against Communism, it was after the Obama administration had announced their rapprochement. And he said that the opposition movement in Cuba is heartbroken, they are abandoned, they are crushed. You know, the administration is not insisting on any role for dissidents. The Castros are continuing to imprison and torture people. They have no political rights. And all of the money going there is just propping up a cruel dictatorship that hates America, and that is 90 miles away from America. And it’s an example — consistently under the Obama-Clinton foreign policy, we have abandoned our friends and allies, whether it is the UK, whether it’s Canada, whether it’s Israel, and we have shown weakness and appeasement to our enemies.”

Obama will do anything he can to throw Israel under the bus.

**bsnub** · 02-07-2015, 11:08 AM

As a steady stream of companies dissociate themselves with Donald Trump over his recent comments accusing Mexican immigrants of being "rapists" who bring drugs and crime to the United States, the real estate mogul and GOP presidential candidate has taken to Twitter to lash out at his critics and vow legal retribution against the firms that have parted ways with him. The latest target of one of his irate Tweet storms is fellow Republican presidential hopeful and former New York Gov. George Pataki.

.@GovernorPataki was a terrible governor of NY, one of the worst -- would’ve been swamped if he ran again!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 1, 2015

.@GovernorPataki couldn’t be elected dog catcher if he ran again—so he didn’t!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 1, 2015

The back story behind the verbal smackdown? Earlier today, Pataki joined the growing number of people and companies that have taken issue with Trump's comments about Mexican immigrants. Pataki posted a letter on Twitter calling on fellow Republicans to "denounce" Trump's comments by "stand[ing] up for our party, for the ideals that made America great, and stand for the basic decency and integrity entitled to every American, no matter their heritage or nationality."

As Donald Trump doubles down, I’m asking you to join me in standing up. email : Webview : As Trump Doubles Down, Pataki Calls on Republican Presidential Candidates to Stand Up @ScottWalker @GovernorPerry @CarlyFiorina
— George E. Pataki (@GovernorPataki) July 1, 2015

Meanwhile, companies continue to kick Donald to the curb. The latest to distance itself from the mogul is Macy's which announced Wednesday that it will no longer carry "Donald Trump brand attire." In a released statement the department store wrote that it was "disappointed" and "distressed" by the billionaire's comments. The decision to cut ties was influenced by a MoveOn.org petition, which had amassed 700,000 signatures by Wednesday morning.
Did Trump respond to Macy's decision? You bet. Shortly after dissing Pataki he refocused his aim on the retailer.

Interesting that @Macys criticized me but just paid $650,000 in fines for racial profiling. Are they racists?
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 1, 2015

Who is @Macys to pretend innocence when they “racial profile” all over the place? Paid big fine!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 1, 2015

All on Twitter, of course.

Donald Trump Goes to War With George Pataki on Twitter | Mother Jones

**Cujo** · 02-07-2015, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Obama will do anything he can to throw Israel under the bus.

Why is Israel, a small M.E. country on the other side of the world, the U.S.s problem?
Let the Iranians deal with them.
The problem is the U.S. has become a state of Israel.
You're ruled by the joos.

**Humbert** · 02-07-2015, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by Cujo

CRUZ: ‘SAD’ US WILL HAVE EMBASSY IN HAVANA BEFORE HAVING AN EMBASSY IN JERURSALEM

Jerursalem? Is that the Yiddish spelling?

**Boon Mee** · 02-07-2015, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by Cujo

CRUZ: ‘SAD’ US WILL HAVE EMBASSY IN HAVANA BEFORE HAVING AN EMBASSY IN JERURSALEM

Jerursalem? Is that the Yiddish spelling?

Hairy know you're attempting to take his job?

**panama hat** · 02-07-2015, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

CRUZ: ‘SAD’ US WILL HAVE EMBASSY IN HAVANA BEFORE HAVING AN EMBASSY IN JERURSALEM

Shows what an absolute fucktard the guy is . . . most countries have their embassies in Tel Aviv . . . well, except Guatemala and El Salvador . . . or is Cruz saying the USA should now follow two tinpot Latim American countries in their foreign policy?

If I were BM or some other reactionary I would have used another title:

USA Foreign Policy Dictated by Guatemala and El Salvador.

How Ted Cruz sold out the USA to countries close to his heritage

**Norton** · 02-07-2015, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by bsnub

he refocused his aim on the retailer.

High entertainment value is ole Donald. Tends to use the ready, fire, aim approach to debate.

Problem is he criticizes all but other than "look at me, I will fix all" he says nothing of substance.

Voters lap up his reality show vitriolic mutterings. He will do well in the primaries.

**bowie** · 02-07-2015, 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by Norton

substance. Voters lap up his reality show vitriolic mutterings. He will do well in the primaries.

Substance or not - Gotta agree with that. Perhaps he will, uhm... negotiate the win.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Norton again.

**RPETER65** · 03-07-2015, 01:01 AM

Originally Posted by bsnub

As a steady stream of companies dissociate themselves with Donald Trump over his recent comments accusing Mexican immigrants of being "rapists" who bring drugs and crime to the United States, the real estate mogul and GOP presidential candidate has taken to Twitter to lash out at his critics and vow legal retribution against the firms that have parted ways with him. The latest target of one of his irate Tweet storms is fellow Republican presidential hopeful and former New York Gov. George Pataki.

.@GovernorPataki was a terrible governor of NY, one of the worst -- would’ve been swamped if he ran again!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 1, 2015

.@GovernorPataki couldn’t be elected dog catcher if he ran again—so he didn’t!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 1, 2015

The back story behind the verbal smackdown? Earlier today, Pataki joined the growing number of people and companies that have taken issue with Trump's comments about Mexican immigrants. Pataki posted a letter on Twitter calling on fellow Republicans to "denounce" Trump's comments by "stand[ing] up for our party, for the ideals that made America great, and stand for the basic decency and integrity entitled to every American, no matter their heritage or nationality."

As Donald Trump doubles down, I’m asking you to join me in standing up. email : Webview : As Trump Doubles Down, Pataki Calls on Republican Presidential Candidates to Stand Up @ScottWalker @GovernorPerry @CarlyFiorina
— George E. Pataki (@GovernorPataki) July 1, 2015

Meanwhile, companies continue to kick Donald to the curb. The latest to distance itself from the mogul is Macy's which announced Wednesday that it will no longer carry "Donald Trump brand attire." In a released statement the department store wrote that it was "disappointed" and "distressed" by the billionaire's comments. The decision to cut ties was influenced by a MoveOn.org petition, which had amassed 700,000 signatures by Wednesday morning.
Did Trump respond to Macy's decision? You bet. Shortly after dissing Pataki he refocused his aim on the retailer.

Interesting that @Macys criticized me but just paid $650,000 in fines for racial profiling. Are they racists?
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 1, 2015

Who is @Macys to pretend innocence when they “racial profile” all over the place? Paid big fine!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 1, 2015

All on Twitter, of course.

Donald Trump Goes to War With George Pataki on Twitter | Mother Jones

This is a perfect example of America today, somebody speaks the truth even though it hearts some feelings, everybody runs the other way fearing retribution. What The Donald said is absolute truth but to many people, especially high profile people, are afraid to look at the facts.

**happynz** · 03-07-2015, 05:16 AM

Originally Posted by RPETER65

This is a perfect example of America today, somebody speaks the truth even though it hearts some feelings, everybody runs the other way fearing retribution. What The Donald said is absolute truth but to many people, especially high profile people, are afraid to look at the facts.

Beautiful lyrics, man...

...somebody speaks the truth
even though it hearts some feelings,
everybody runs the other way...

**bsnub** · 03-07-2015, 06:29 AM

Originally Posted by RPETER65

even though it hearts some feelings

**panama hat** · 03-07-2015, 06:30 AM

Originally Posted by bsnub

Originally Posted by RPETER65

even though it hearts some feelings

Precious.

**Boon Mee** · 03-07-2015, 06:41 AM

The Donald in the Oval Office is an interesting thought. For sure he can't be bought off like the present Democrat front-runner, eh?

**bowie** · 03-07-2015, 07:50 AM

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

The Donald in the Oval Office is an interesting thought. For sure he can't be bought off

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Boon Mee again.

Not only can't he be bought, he can self finance - a most significant advantage in a political campaign.

To repeat myself, I hope "The Donald" gets in just so I can see what the input of a successful businessman can accomplish to begin to fix the "mess" that past 50 years of politicking have provided.

**bowie** · 03-07-2015, 08:11 AM

Originally Posted by RPETER65

somebody speaks the truth

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to RPETER65 again.

But, he forgot to be politically correct. Interesting thought though - he, uhm... alienates the, uhm, oh yea "illegal immigrants" oops, I meant to say "undocumented immigrants", at the very beginning of the campaign - then, perhaps, as we near the point where the votes count - he will clarify his statement in such a way as to garner Latino votes.

Just a thought. Perhaps, part of a negotiation.

**bsnub** · 03-07-2015, 08:14 AM

Originally Posted by bowie

then, perhaps, as we near the point where the votes count - he will clarify his statement in such a way as to garner Latino votes.

If you think that will matter then you are a bigger moron then I already thought.

**S Landreth** · 03-07-2015, 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by bowie

But, he forgot to be politically correct. Interesting thought though - he, uhm... alienates the, uhm, oh yea "illegal immigrants" oops, I meant to say "undocumented immigrants", at the very beginning of the campaign - then, perhaps, as we near the point where the votes count - he will clarify his statement in such a way as to garner Latino votes.

You’re funny!

Thank You, Donald Trump!

Dear Donald,

You've said some pretty offensive things about Latino immigrants recently, and I think they're worth addressing. Because, you know, this is the United States of America, where I have a right to speak up even if I'm not a billionaire. Isn't that awesome?

Anyway, I heard what you said about the kind of people you think Latino immigrants are -- people with problems, who bring drugs, crime and rape to America. While your comments are incredibly ignorant and racist, I don't want to spend my time chastising you. I'll leave that to your business partners like Univision and NBC, who have the power to scold you where it hurts. Instead, I'm writing to say thank you!

You see, what you just did with your straight talk was send more Latino voters to the polls than several registration rallies combined! Thank you for that. Here we are pounding the pavement to get American Latinos to the polls, while your tactic proves most effective. Remarks like yours will serve brilliantly to energize Latino voters and increase turnout on election day against you and any other candidate who runs on a platform of hateful rhetoric.

Do you know why that's such a big deal, Donald? Because Latinos are the largest, youngest and fastest-growing constituency in the United States of America. That's right! You are running for President in a country where the Latino population grew by over 49 percent from 2000-2012, while the rest of the country grew by 5.8 percent. What's more, we are the future. The median age of the average Latino is 27 years old, compared to 42 years old for white Americans. In case you need a translation, that means there are a whole lot of Americans who are Latino and have the right to vote. And, we're not going anywhere.

This is the America we are actually living in. I hope by now you understand that without the Latino vote, there is no chance of you ever winning this election. If you don't believe me, you could ask President Bush or you could even ask President Obama.

You, Mr. Trump, are living in an outdated fantasy of a bigoted America. Last week, America celebrated some amazing milestones -- marriage equality, universal healthcare, removing of the confederate flag -- making it clear in which direction the country is moving. That is why racist remarks that play to extremists won't change the tide, no matter how hard you try. They will only serve to rally more Latino voters to the polls. Your negativity and your poorly thought out speech ignited a fire in our community. Thank you, Mr. Trump!

Thank you for reminding us that there remains an antiquated and endangered species of bigots in this country that we must continue to combat. Thank you for reminding us to not sit complacently at home on election day, but to run to the polls and proclaim that there is no place for your brand of racial politicking in our government. Thank you for sending out the rallying cry.

You have made your thoughts on the Latino community clear and you continue to stand by them. And in return, we will do more than tweet about our indignation and beat piñatas of your likeness. We will silence you at the polls. We will vote and use our growing position in U.S. politics. Our fellow Americans who understand and value our contributions will join us. We know there is nothing that scares you more.

The truth is, Mr. Trump, that your comments mean that you fail to see that immigrants are what have made this nation. They are at the core of our ideals, and they are the foundation that keeps us afloat. No, Mr. Trump, you may not reduce us to drug dealers and rapists. We are moms and dads, sons and daughters. We are valedictorians and honor students. We are college graduates, bankers, police officers, entertainers, teachers, journalists, politicians and we are the future of America.

Thank you for helping us in our work to energize the Latino vote and to usher in our shared future!
Keep it up!

Sincerely,

America

**Boon Mee** · 03-07-2015, 08:24 AM

What Trump said about Latino aliens is basically true. America has been getting the dregs of society ala Castro's release of the criminals into S. Florider. Been reading the reports lately?

**Humbert** · 03-07-2015, 08:30 AM

^Yes, and none of the statistics support his blathering.

**bsnub** · 03-07-2015, 08:34 AM

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

What Trump said about Latino aliens is basically true.

No it isnt basically true it is typical right wing racist bullshit just like your post in the white privilege thread were you claimed all minorities are lazy.

Mexican immigrants are almost entirely lawful and hardworking people. Most are in fact devout Catholics. They work hard and in many cases have actually joined the military and fought for this country.

**bowie** · 03-07-2015, 08:41 AM

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/21/up...abt=0002&abg=1

But in 2016 Hispanics will represent just 12 percent of eligible voters, and between 9 and 10 percent of actual voters. That’s a lot, but it’s not large enough to grant or deny Republicans the presidency.

The math is simple: A 10-point gain among 10 percent of the electorate yields an additional point in the popular vote. Mr. Obama won by a 3.9-point margin in 2012. So even if the next Republican presidential candidate received the magical 40 percent of Hispanic voters that Mr. Bush received in 2004 — which seems unlikely in a fairly competitive national election — it still wouldn’t erase Mr. Romney’s deficit in the popular vote.

Hispanic voters are disproportionately concentrated in noncompetitive states like Texas and California. This makes it even harder for the Republicans to claim the presidency by focusing on them, since there are relatively few Hispanic voters in the battleground states that determine who wins the Electoral College. Hispanics represent more than 5 percent of eligible voters in just three battlegrounds: Florida, Nevada and Colorado. As a result, the Republicans could have entirely erased Mr. Obama’s advantage among Hispanic voters and still lost the presidency in 2012, since Mr. Romney would have still lost states like Virginia and Ohio, where there are very few Hispanic voters.

**ltnt** · 03-07-2015, 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by Humbert

Yes, and none of the statistics support his blathering.

Says CNN...right Bert?

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