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    It’s all rather common in a lot of states. Too bad they didn’t do this BEFORE the last elections.

    And the food/water thing is meant to stop advocacy groups from handing out food/water while wearing political messaging. Which by the way is illegal. And people can still bring food/water up until they are on the grounds of the polling place. Nothing stopping a family member from bringing snacks to another family member etc.

    Bit funny the hysterics over this tho. The horror of having to prove your ID when voting absentee. And keeping drop boxes from being tampered with etc.

    FYI the process goes like this:

    1- have desire to vote
    2- register to vote with your address and ID
    3- vote using the same
    4- go home

    ZoMg JiM cRoW

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    Nothing stopping a family member from bringing snacks to another family member etc.
    Exactly what it does. No one can wear or campaign within 100s of feet of a polling station. There has been no one giving out food and drink with it because it has always been illegal to do so while campaigning.





    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    1- have desire to vote
    2- register to vote with your address and ID
    3- vote using the same
    4- go home
    Sounds so simple.

    Desire to vote: check.

    Register to vote using ID and address: check.

    Vote using the same: The Republicans have closed the polling stations in mostly black areas. Must find transportation to a voting place where the line will be very very long and no one can bring you water or food.

    Go home: See above.


    Vote by mail, you say? If you don’t have a driver’s license, you must find a copy machine to duplicate your documentation. Pain in the ass.

    Voter signature match has worked for ions, so why now when Black voters are becoming so numerous do Republicans want to change that?

    OH! “when Black voters are becoming so numerous” Republicans lose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    If you don’t have a driver’s license
    Then you do like everyone does and get a state ID. You don’t need a drivers license.

    Everything else is hysterical noise and faux outrage.

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    Wondering why in other (undeveloped) countries they haven't developed their election law similarly so easy and transparent? Why they exercise their election just over weekend?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    It’s all rather common in a lot of states. Too bad they didn’t do this BEFORE the last elections.

    And the food/water thing is meant to stop advocacy groups from handing out food/water while wearing political messaging. Which by the way is illegal. And people can still bring food/water up until they are on the grounds of the polling place. Nothing stopping a family member from bringing snacks to another family member etc.

    Bit funny the hysterics over this tho. The horror of having to prove your ID when voting absentee. And keeping drop boxes from being tampered with etc.

    FYI the process goes like this:

    1- have desire to vote
    2- register to vote with your address and ID
    3- vote using the same
    4- go home

    ZoMg JiM cRoW
    Hey look, racist agrees with racist laws.

    *Shock*

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    GQP: Guns 4 All! It's a right!!!

    Also GQP: You can only vote one time every two years. It can only be a Tuesday in November. You must go and wait in line. There is only one place in your county. You must have multiple forms of ID. No one can give you water while you wait.

    Also Also GQP: Ps. no health care, that shit's socialism.

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    Caption Comp:



    'A bunch of Southern white men sign Georgia’s new Jim Crow bill disenfranchising Black voters in front of a painting of a notorious slave plantation.

    How fitting.'


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    Quote Originally Posted by strigils View Post
    so are you, when you are sober
    Oh, look it is Whingy McFlounce who has been on a drunken rampage shit posting all over the forum for hours now. 11:30pm in the northern chav council flat piss drunk.

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    ^ the mods have already cleaned him out of the thread.
    One wonders how long it will take before he is sent to jail again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    1- have desire to vote
    2- register to vote with your address and ID although we will limit the types of ID and the times and places you can do this to make it near impossible, then remove your registration just before the election so you can't use it - if you live in black neighbourhood
    3- Limit the time and number of places you can vote at so you have to queue for ten hours - if you live in a black neighbourhood
    4- Stop you voting and send you home - if you're black

    Just like JiM cRoW
    FTFY.

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    It's a shame economic conditions probably make it unlikely that Delta could stick two fingers up to Georgia and move their headquarters somewhere else.

    Having said that, there may well be states that would pay handsomely to have them.


    Georgia Republicans voted to strip Delta Air Lines of a jet fuel tax break worth tens of millions of dollars Wednesday after the company u-turned to unequivocally condemn the state’s widely-criticized voting restrictions, joining a growing list of executives who have criticized the new restrictions amid a debate over boycotting Georgia's biggest companies.


    However, they may have realised the possible consequences of their actions.

    A number of prominent Georgia-based companies—including Delta, Coca-Cola and Home Depot, which exert a powerful force on Georgia politics— condemned the law after pressure grew from activists to boycott them for not taking stronger stances against the law.

    The bill, introduced towards the very end of the legislative session, was not taken up by the Senate before it adjourned and has not become law.
    Georgia House Passes Bill Stripping Delta Of A Multimillion Tax Break After It Slammed The State’s New Voting Restrictions

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    The C.E.O.s Who Didn’t Sign a Big Defense of Voting Rights
    April 14, 2021

    Hundreds of leaders and companies signed a letter opposing strict limits. They did not.

    The business leaders’ letter, as a two-page ad in The Times.

    A big show of corporate solidarity

    Amazon, BlackRock, Google, Warren Buffett and hundreds of other companies and executives have signed a new statement opposing “any discriminatory legislation” that would make it harder for people to vote. The statement, which ran as a two-page ad in The Times, comes amid a flurry of voting-related proposals from Republicans that have generated competing calls for corporations to take a stand and to stay out of politics lest lawmakers retaliate, David Gelles and Andrew write in The Times. And just as notable as the names who signed the statement are those that didn’t.

    The statement represents the broadest coalition yet to weigh in on the issue, coming after few big companies spoke up before a restrictive voting law passed in Georgia last month. “For American democracy to work for any of us, we must ensure the right to vote for all of us,” it reads in part. The statement came together over the past week and a half, organized by Ken Chenault, a former C.E.O. of AmEx, and Ken Frazier, the C.E.O. of Merck.

    •The statement says that the signers should “oppose any discriminatory legislation or measures that restrict or prevent any eligible voter from having an equal and fair opportunity to cast a ballot,” a phrase that some wanted to remove, but which Mr. Chenault and Mr. Frazier considered crucial.

    There are some notable omissions. Many companies declined to sign the statement, and some executives, such as Mr. Buffett, signed for themselves but not on behalf of their companies. Coca-Cola and Delta, which spoke out about the Georgia law after it was passed, declined to add their names, perhaps fearing more blowback for earlier statements and also not feeling the need to speak again. JPMorgan Chase also declined to sign the statement despite a personal request from senior Black business leaders to Jamie Dimon, who made a statement on voting rights before.

    Why didn’t Walmart sign? Doug McMillon, the retailer’s C.E.O., who also chairs the influential Business Roundtable lobby group, sent a note to employees to explain the company’s position. “We are not in the business of partisan politics,” he wrote. “While our government relations teams have historically focused on core business issues like tax policy or government regulation, Walmart and other major employers are increasingly being asked to weigh in on broader societal issues such as civil rights.” The company didn’t sign the statement, but “we do want to be clear that we believe broad participation and trust in the election process are vital to its integrity,” Mr. McMillon said.



    HERE’S WHAT’S HAPPENING

    The latest round of bank earnings begins today. They’ll show a rebound from the pandemic, based on early examples: JPMorgan Chase reported $14.3 billion in profit for the first quarter of 2021, up from $2.9 billion a year ago, while Goldman Sachs reported $6.8 billion in earnings, up from $1.2 billion.

    Toshiba’s potential sale is in doubt after its C.E.O. resigns. The chairman of the Japanese conglomerate appeared to throw cold water on prospects for a deal — either with CVC Capital Partners, which has offered $20 billion, or another private equity firm — after Nobuaki Kurumatani abruptly stepped down.

    The U.S. loses an estimated $1 trillion a year to tax cheats. The head of the I.R.S., Charles Rettig, cited the figure while arguing for more funding for enforcement at a Senate hearing yesterday. He added that the so-called tax gap was growing in part because of cryptocurrency trading and corporate abuse of pass-through provisions in the tax code.

    A top Manhattan district attorney candidate’s fund-raising is posing an ethical quandary. Tali Farhadian Weinstein, a Rhodes scholar and Justice Department veteran, has amassed $2.2 million, the biggest war chest in the race. Yet much of her fund-raising has come from hedge fund executives, and her husband is Boaz Weinstein of Saba Capital, raising questions about conflicts of interest in prosecuting financial crimes.

    Companies call for bigger U.S. emissions reductions targets. More than 300 businesses, including McDonald’s and Walmart, signed a public letter urging the Biden administration to nearly double its carbon-emissions goals before an April 22 summit on climate change.

    Read more
    These C.E.O.s Didn'''t Sign Onto a Letter Defending Voting Rights - The New York Times

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    As if we needed more proof that the Republican party is officially off the rails, GOP officials in Arizona are checking ballots under UV light, to see if there is bamboo in the paper. Their theory is, Democrats shipped fake ballots from Asia.

    Arizona Republicans hunt for bamboo-laced China ballots in 2020 ‘audit’ effort | Arizona | The Guardian

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    ^This needs to go on the Republican lunacy thread. What clowns.

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    ^^ to feed the GQP base, which swallows it whole. They are a group of dupes, rubes and sore losers who won't accept democracy, unless they win, of course, now trying a lame insurrection through the back door.

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    ^^
    Thanks misskit. I just posted it in that thread.

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    Playbook PM: Did the Supreme Court just flip the House?

    SCOTUS WATCH — In one of the most surprising Supreme Court rulings in recent memory, Chief Justice JOHN ROBERTS and Justice BRETT KAVANAUGH today joined with the court’s three liberals to uphold a key part of the Voting Rights Act and strike down Alabama’s congressional map for diluting Black voters’ political power.

    In a 5-4 decision written by Roberts, the court ruled that the state will likely need a second majority-Black congressional district. It’s particularly unexpected because Roberts was a key vote in the past for gutting or weakening other parts of the Voting Rights Act. This case offered the court the opportunity to do so for Section 2, which Roberts did note “may impermissibly elevate race in the allocation of political power within the States,” but he declined to strike it down.

    In their sharp dissents, conservative Justices CLARENCE THOMAS, SAMUEL ALITO, NEIL GORSUCH and AMY CONEY BARRETT signaled that they would still be open to other challenges to the VRA. Thomas and Gorsuch argued that Section 2 “should not apply to redistricting challenges at all,” Josh Gerstein and Zach Montellaro report.
    Beyond the legal precedent, the political reverberations could be significant. Legal challenges to congressional district lines in several southern states may have a greater chance at success, while Republicans seeking advantages in near-term redistricting processes may have their sails trimmed.

    In Alabama, shifting district lines might imperil GOP Rep. BARRY MOORE the most, The Cook Political Report’s Dave Wasserman predicts. The SCOTUS ruling also means the likely success of a similar lawsuit in Louisiana, where Democrats have long pressed for a second Black-majority seat, and it could mean one or more Democrats survive a pending mid-cycle redistricting attempt in North Carolina. The specifics elsewhere are murkier, but maps in South Carolina, Georgia, Florida and Texas might also see changes under the ruling.

    Overall, Democrats could net two to four seats from the changes, Wasserman estimates. Steve Vladeck pegs the number of seats that might have flipped had this ruling come down before the midterms at three to six for CNN.

    In a closely divided House (and country), of course, that could be the whole ballgame.


    Playbook PM: Did the Supreme Court just flip the House? - POLITICO

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    Was listening to Mr. Elias and he was excited about the court’s decision.

    Marc E. Elias - The Court’s decision in Allen will impact 30 other redistricting lawsuits in 10 different states https://twitter.com/marceelias/statu...42191121424404

    Marc E. Elias - My latest on yesterday's SCOTUS victory: "At a time when the conservative Court is dispensing with past precedents like used tissues, this opinion is clearly calculated to signal jurisprudential stability around redistricting and the VRA." https://twitter.com/marceelias/statu...66351419858946
    Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

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    Marc E. Elias - A good day for democracy. https://twitter.com/marceelias/statu...64314810449920




    Supreme Court dismisses Louisiana’s appeal of ruling that found racial gerrymandering

    The Supreme Court on Monday restored a federal court’s ruling that Louisiana’s congressional lines likely diluted the power of Black voters in the state — an immediate reverberation of the high court’s recent decision that affirmed a key piece of the Voting Rights Act.

    Litigation over the map will now continue in a lower court.

    Last summer, the Supreme Court agreed to hear Louisiana’s appeal after a district judge ruled that the state’s congressional lines likely diluted the power of Black voters in the state. The Supreme Court also imposed a stay of the judge’s order while the justices weighed a similar redistricting case in Alabama.

    But on Monday, the Supreme Court reversed course, lifting its stay and dismissing its decision to hear the Louisiana appeal, saying it took the case prematurely.

    The court’s decision on Monday is the first big domino to fall after the court issued its decision in the Alabama case — Allen v. Milligan — earlier this month. In that decision, the court reaffirmed a provision of the Voting Rights Act that allows minority voters to challenge voting maps that hinder their collective ability to elect their chosen candidates.

    In the Allen decision, the court effectively found that the state’s congressional lines likely violated the landmark piece of civil rights legislation. Even though Black people make up roughly a quarter of Alabama’s population, just one of the state’s seven congressional districts is majority Black — which the challengers attributed to racial gerrymandering.

    Monday’s order for Louisiana effectively leaves the lower court’s decision that ordered the state to redraw its map in effect — for now. The case will head to the 5th Circuit of Appeals, a famously conservative appeals court that legal experts are already speculating would likely look skeptically on allegations of racial vote dilution, despite the high court’s recent decision.

    In sending the case back to the appellate level, the Supreme Court wrote that the case should continue “in the ordinary course and in advance of the 2024 congressional elections in Louisiana.”

    Louisiana currently has one majority Black seat out of its six districts. Louisiana is approximately one-third Black.

    Several other states — like Georgia and Texas — will likely also be affected by the Allen decision. Other successful dilution challenges across the South could ultimately result in a boost for Democrats as they try to retake the House majority.

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    Made the news here

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    More good news..........

    Marc E. Elias - BREAKING: Supreme Court REJECTS radical Independent State Legislature theory. AFFIRMS North Carolina redistricting victory. Congrats to @DemRedistrict and @EliasLawGroup team on amazing victory. https://twitter.com/marceelias/statu...97019326504970







    The Supreme Court on Tuesday rejected one of Republicans’ most audacious attempts to control elections.

    The big picture: In a 6-3 decision, the justices said states' election laws can be challenged in court — a rebuke to a burgeoning conservative movement that has sought to block the courts from hearing such cases.

    Context: A group of North Carolina GOP lawmakers had asked the court to embrace a sweeping legal theory called the independent state legislature doctrine.


    • The theory holds that state legislatures have total control over their state's election rules, including the procedures that govern presidential elections.
    • Even if a state legislature does something that would violate the state's constitution, proponents of the independent state legislature theory argue, the courts have no ability to stop them.


    The Supreme Court rejected that argument in one of the highest profile cases of its term: Moore v. Harper.


    • The Constitution "does not insulate state legislatures from the ordinary exercise of state judicial review," Chief Justice John Roberts wrote for the court's majority.


    How it works: This case concerned gerrymandering in North Carolina. The state's Supreme Court ruled that new congressional and state legislative maps were "unconstitutional beyond a reasonable doubt."


    • Legislators argued in response that the court had no right to review their congressional maps.
    • The same argument could also have prevented state courts from reviewing any other changes to election procedures, or even extending an Election Day deadline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth View Post
    More good news..........
    Fantastic news, but what is the end game? Never trust this court. It is the most conservative in American history, thanks to the orange moron.

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    ^I don't trust them




    A federal court blocked a Florida election law Monday that would’ve imposed more limitations on voter registration efforts in the state.

    In a 58-page ruling, U.S. District Judge Mark Walker agreed with the plaintiffs that the new state law is unconstitutional, saying that implementing restrictions on third-party voter registration organizations violates the Constitution.

    SB 7050, signed into law by Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) in May, includes a ban on noncitizens participating in registering votes. Organizations could face a $50,000 fine for each noncitizen person who “collects” or “handles” voter registration forms on the organization’s behalf.

    “Florida may, of course, regulate elections, including the voter registration process,” Walker said in his ruling. “Here, however, the challenged provisions exemplify something Florida has struggled with in recent years; namely, governing within the bounds set by the United States Constitution.”

    Walker, who was appointed to his position by former President Obama, also said in his ruling that the decision is not final, also highlighting one of the plaintiffs in the lawsuit, an immigrant from El Salvador who has permanent residency in the U.S. and works as a Florida field director for Mi Vecino, a voter registration group.

    “Tomorrow, Floridians across the state will commemorate our Nation’s birthday. They will endure the heat of the Florida summer to celebrate the Fourth of July with family and friends at barbecues and picnics,” Walker said in his ruling, who noted that the ruling comes a day before the July 4th holiday.

    “They will gather with their communities at public parks for music and fireworks. They will cheer and sweat at parades and block parties. And amid these patriotic festivities, some may feel moved, for the first time, to embrace their solemn privilege as citizens by registering to vote.”

    This comes as the lawsuit was filed by the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), ACLU of Florida, LatinoJustice PRLDEF, Dēmos, and other organizations and individual clients.

    In a statement, legal director for the ACLU of Florida Daniel Talley said the ruling “fortifies the idea that all Floridians have a right to participate in building a stronger democracy through civic engagement.”

    “While this is a step in the right direction, our work is not finished. People in our communities, including noncitizens, work tirelessly to assist in voter registration efforts to empower Floridians to vote on issues that impact their daily lives,” Talley said. “We applaud the court’s decision, but we must ensure this harmful law is struck down altogether.”

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    Desantis is a crafty politician.

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    Marc E. Elias - A HUGE victory for fair districting in New York. A state appellate court has ordered the Independent Redistricting Commission to “commence its duties" to redraw a new congressional map "forthwith.” https://twitter.com/marceelias/statu...03811071692802







    A New York court on Thursday ruled in favor of Democrats’ efforts to get their congressional map redrawn after the party lost a handful of seats in the Empire State in the November midterms — losses that followed a previous bout of redistricting.

    In June 2022, New York voters brought a lawsuit requesting the bipartisan Independent Redistricting Commission (IRC) “fulfill their constitutional duty” to redraw congressional lines in the state after its first set of maps were rejected and it was unable to submit a second set of maps after deadlocking on proposed lines.

    The Democratic-controlled state legislature submitted their congressional lines, but those were later tossed out by the New York appeals court, forcing a court-appointed special master to redraw them.

    A New York appellate court sided in favor of Democrats’ appeals to have the map redrawn, arguing the IRC should be given the chance to redraw the maps again, and the maps used in the November midterms should only have only been used in the interim.

    The court ordered that the IRC must “commence its duties forthwith.”

    “The IRC had an indisputable duty under the NY Constitution to submit a second set of maps upon the rejection of its first set. … It is undisputed that the IRC failed to perform this duty,” New York appellate court Justice Peter Lynch wrote in the decision.

    “The right to participate in the democratic process is the most essential right in our system of governance,” Lynch wrote. “The procedures governing the redistricting process, all too easily abused by those who would seek to minimize the voters’ voice and entrench themselves in the seats of power, must be guarded as jealously as the right to vote itself; in granting this petition, we return the matter to its constitutional design.”

    Three New York appellate court justices dissented, arguing the redistricting process should not occur again until after the 2030 census, though they agreed the IRC creating a second set of maps would have been “preferable to resorting to litigation and judicially drawn maps” in the first place.

    The decision was cheered by Elias Law Group, which is representing the New York voters bringing the lawsuit.

    “Last year, New York voters cast their ballots under a congressional map that disregarded and marginalized minority communities and some of the state’s most vulnerable citizens. New Yorkers deserve the fair lines and fair process they voted for, and today’s decision is a huge step in the right direction,” Elias Law Group partner Aria Branch said in a statement.

    “We are thrilled that the Court recognized the Independent Redistricting Commission’s constitutional duty to redraw New York’s congressional map,” Branch added.

    The decision is expected to be appealed by Republicans and weighed by the Court of Appeals.

    “After failing to win at the ballot box last November, New York Democrats are attempting a blatant partisan power grab thinly disguised as a court case. Republicans will appeal to protect the will of the voters of New York, and we will fight to hold the line in the Empire State,” Jack Pandol, a spokesman for the House Republicans’ campaign arm, said in a statement.

    Democrats are already devoting resources in New York to flipping back the House seats they lost during the November midterms.

    Those New York House seats ultimately delivered Republicans their slim majority, but many of them are considered “toss-ups” by the nonpartisan election handicapper Cook Political Report.

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    The Supreme Court on Tuesday rejected Alabama Republicans' request to block the redrawing of the state's congressional districts by a special master.

    Driving the news: The Alabama GOP asked SCOTUS to consider an emergency request blocking a lower court's determination that the state's legislature had failed to comply with the Voting Rights Act while drawing congressional districts.


    • The Voting Right Act requires that minority voters are provided with "an equal opportunity to participate in the political process."


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    Marc E. Elias - Now you know why they hate us some much. My team fights hard and wins. Tonight I will celebrate with a tall glass of his tears.: https://twitter.com/marceelias/statu...80144789332251




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