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    Quote Originally Posted by longway View Post
    ^ The US smashed them, what they lost was the peace, and its no wonder as the Afghanistan invasion was just a curtain raiser/smokescreen for their real target - Iraq; they walked away with consolidating their victory properly.

    They had no interest or reason to have a stable Afghanistan and it shows.

    Iraq of course was a different story - but thats Douche and Dumbsfeld for you.
    Smashed them.

    Yeah right.

    And that's why they'll be taking over the country just as soon as the seppos have run away with their tails between their legs.

    Meanwhile the instigators you describe have coined it at the expense of billions of dollars, thousands of American lives and who knows how many good and bad Afghanis who've been on the end of a carpet bombing or two.

    11 dead as U.S. aircraft crashes in eastern Afghanistan - CNNPolitics.com


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    [QUOTE]Russia deliberately targeting CIA-backed rebels in Syria, says US
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    Video: Russia deliberately targeting CIA-backed rebels in Syria, says US - Telegraph

    Your move Ohblablah -

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    Quote Originally Posted by longway View Post
    ^ putins not fighting iwith isis.
    Officially he is.

    Unofficially he's killing anyone opposed to Assad.

    I thought that was pretty obvious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by longway View Post
    ^ The US smashed them, what they lost was the peace, and its no wonder as the Afghanistan invasion was just a curtain raiser/smokescreen for their real target - Iraq; they walked away with consolidating their victory properly.

    They had no interest or reason to have a stable Afghanistan and it shows.

    Iraq of course was a different story - but thats Douche and Dumbsfeld for you.
    Smashed them.

    Yeah right.

    And that's why they'll be taking over the country just as soon as the seppos have run away with their tails between their legs.

    Meanwhile the instigators you describe have coined it at the expense of billions of dollars, thousands of American lives and who knows how many good and bad Afghanis who've been on the end of a carpet bombing or two.

    11 dead as U.S. aircraft crashes in eastern Afghanistan - CNNPolitics.com

    I have read the history and the way the us threw afghanistan into the toilet is sad, the actual invasion was a rout. They no interest. They tried to right it later but it was too late by then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by longway View Post
    ^ putins not fighting iwith isis.
    Officially he is.

    Unofficially he's killing anyone opposed to Assad.

    I thought that was pretty obvious.
    Im not the one claiming he is

    Its your 'chum' who said that.

    Ohblablah and the cia just figured it out too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by longway View Post
    ^ putins not fighting iwith isis.
    That's not what he says, or at least said in the beginning of the bombing. He also said he would give proper warning before they started, then gave only a 1 hour notice before starting. Regardless of his motives, he's clearly comes up short when it comes to trustworthiness.
    Last edited by MrG; 07-10-2015 at 02:23 AM.

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    ^ well obviously, he has made a fool of ohblablah. Does ohblahblah have to stomach protect his proxy forces from russian air strikes? Maybe the us can embed sf with anti aircraft missiles to shoot down russian planes, thats his best hope, but if they lose any of these weapon platforms they will end up in the hands of terrorists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by longway
    ^ well obviously, he has made a fool of ohblablah.
    Oh, really....?
    Obama wants to reduce our involvement in the ME, so how is he embarrassed. Putin runs in and commits his country to protecting Assad by killing Muslim rebels who want Assad out, making the same stupid mistake America did when it started killing people over there. Putin may be mounting his horse with his shirt off to take a victory lap, but we'll see how this plays out and who winds up embarrassed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrG
    He also said he would give proper warning before they started, then gave only a 1 hour notice before starting. Regardless of his motives, he's clearly comes up short when it comes to trustworthiness.
    How long does it take to make a phone call, jump in a white Toyota pickup and drive a few Km? Human resources are what counts, yes? Trust a foreign government , for sure. The Russian leader is acting in accordance with his statements, published for the world to see and understand, are you suggesting other countries do the same?


    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    Quote: Originally Posted by longway View Post ^ putins not fighting iwith isis. Officially he is. Unofficially he's killing anyone opposed to Assad. I thought that was pretty obvious.
    I am assuming that longway was implying "The Russian leader is fighting AGAINST ISIS"

    Officially the Russians are assisting, at their request, the Syrian Government in fighting ALL terrorists within Syria. The Syrians have , by all accounts requested Iran and Hezbollah as well. Russian political leaders have also announced that if Iraq requests "assitance" the Russians will respond favourably.

    The terrorist targets as defined by the Russian Foreign Minister was stated as:

    "If it looks like a terrorist
    walks like a terrorist
    fights like a terrorits
    It's a Terrorist
    and Russia will target and kill the terrorists"

    Sounds like a carte blanche menu to choose from, to me. The military order of battle is for the Syrians to determine, the Russians are just providing "assistance" Or are you suggesting the Russians take target priority from the crusader coalition leaders?

    Quote Originally Posted by MrG
    making the same stupid mistake America did when it started killing people over there. Putin may be mounting his horse with his shirt off to take a victory lap, but we'll see how this plays out and who winds up embarrassed.
    Yes the Label is the same, "war against terrorists", however the definition of terrorists is different. It's a black or white choice, there are no grey, yellow, pink or beige ones on the Syrians list of options. I believe the UN has a official list and individual countries can name one group as being members or "aiding and assisting" the named terrorist group and hence target them. In fact most countries have enacted anti-terrorism laws which suggest looking at a "terrorist" website is sufficient proof to eliminate you from society.

    Yes the initial phase of a war is usually one sided. When the terrorist sponsors get their act together things might change. Similar to the Russian experience in Afghanistan.
    Last edited by OhOh; 07-10-2015 at 08:55 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh
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    Originally Posted by MrG He also said he would give proper warning before they started, then gave only a 1 hour notice before starting. Regardless of his motives, he's clearly comes up short when it comes to trustworthiness. How long does it take to make a phone call, jump in a white Toyota pickup and drive a few Km? Human resources are what counts, yes? Trust a foreign government , for sure. The Russian leader is acting in accordance with his statements, published for the world to see and understand, are you suggesting other countries do the same?
    I'm saying that governments are expected to act in a responsible manner, not say one thing then do another when it could create enormous havoc. Putin is a short-dick child in this regard. But he's your friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh
    The Russian leader is acting in accordance with his statements, published for the world to see and understand, are you suggesting other countries do the same?
    No he is not. He's supposed to be conducting himself as a responsible leader, but he acts like a smug, petulant bully, classic short man syndrome. You seem compelled to defend him no matter what. He's your dictator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juanuneeko View Post
    Who is the leader of ISIS now?


    General Lloyd Austin III


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    Link please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers View Post
    ^
    Link please.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lloyd_Austin

    Lloyd James Austin III (born 8 August 1953) is a United States Army general. He is the 12th and current commander of United States Central Command (CENTCOM).
    There you go. Of course, if you still believe the charade that ISIS is not US created, funded, armed and controlled, then more fool you.

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    Wikipedia, really?


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    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers
    Link please.
    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus
    There you go
    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers
    Wikipedia, really?
    You ask for the link. You are provided the link. You ridicule the link.

    Though I disagree with pseudolus, perhaps you'd do better critiquing the contents . . . but then that would be breaking a habit.

    I tend to view pseudolus' posts of this nature as a type of David44-ish attempt at making posters think about the issue from different sides

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrG
    not say one thing then do another when it could create enormous havoc. Putin is a short-dick child in this regard. But he's your friend.
    So killing terrorists is a no-go for you, because historically, the crusader coalition DID "cause enormous havoc"? Whereas the Russian leader, in Chechnya, has allegedly solved it's terrorist problem.

    A politician has no friends, certainly not an poor, aging, westerner living in Asia.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrG
    No he is not. He's supposed to be conducting himself as a responsible leader, but he acts like a smug, petulant bully, classic short man syndrome. You seem compelled to defend him no matter what. He's your dictator.
    Which "responsible leader" should he model himself on?

    I post sourced speeches from him. Many of which seem, to me, to be accurate, clear and unambiguous. I watch him speak live and in videos and see a person who is knowledgeable, polite and does not in any way think himself or the country he represents as "exceptional". Compared with other "world leaders" he stands out head and shoulders, to use your childish physical height analogy, .

    His Foreign Minister, one of his selected team, is equally so on the world stage. Compared with other "Foreign ministers" he stands out. He appears to be "tall" so no head and shoulders comment is required for him eh?

    My dictator, how does he have any influence on my posts/actions? Well other than the monthly gold bar packages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrG View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by longway
    ^ well obviously, he has made a fool of ohblablah.
    Oh, really....?
    Obama wants to reduce our involvement in the ME, so how is he embarrassed. Putin runs in and commits his country to protecting Assad by killing Muslim rebels who want Assad out, making the same stupid mistake America did when it started killing people over there. Putin may be mounting his horse with his shirt off to take a victory lap, but we'll see how this plays out and who winds up embarrassed.
    There are stil many twists to the road ahead, but as of now, he has been embarrassed, humiliated even.

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    Quote Originally Posted by longway View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrG View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by longway
    ^ well obviously, he has made a fool of ohblablah.
    Oh, really....?
    Obama wants to reduce our involvement in the ME, so how is he embarrassed. Putin runs in and commits his country to protecting Assad by killing Muslim rebels who want Assad out, making the same stupid mistake America did when it started killing people over there. Putin may be mounting his horse with his shirt off to take a victory lap, but we'll see how this plays out and who winds up embarrassed.
    There are stil many twists to the road ahead, but as of now, he has been embarrassed, humiliated even.
    Let me guess . . . Benghazi is still an issue with you as well.

    Pray tell, using facts, how has he been embarrassed, humiliated even, in Iraq/Syria? Try not to use neo-con blog one-liners, please.

    He hasn't been successful with his limited engagement policy, but embarrassed and humiliated? Give it a rest.

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    A Russian politician, not a Government minister, allegedly hints at Russian volunteer ground troops are "soon" to be deployed in Syria. Should we accept that a politician, from any parliament, actually is that countries official policy?

    "MOSCOW — Russia signaled deepening intervention Monday in the Syria war, strongly hinting that its “volunteer” ground forces would soon be fighting there, as NATO officials warned the Kremlin after a Russian warplane invaded Turkey’s airspace."

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/06/wo...rkey.html?_r=1

    An American magazine suggest that "American Vigilantes" have been and are now present in Syria and the "buzz" is exhilarating.

    ‘‘It’s hard to explain,’’ he said. ‘‘You know these guys are animals, but even with that knowledge … ’’ He trailed off. ‘‘You know you have to let the brain figure it out on its own,’’ he said. ‘‘He pointed the R.P.G. at me. He would have taken me and my friend. It was hard for me. Killing people, you know you are here to do it. But then, when it happens, and you see it. It’s different. He just exploded.’’

    Should this fact of existing American voluteers as deep intervation, you know the "boots on the ground" type imply official American Government policy?



    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/04/ma...html?ref=world

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers
    Link please.
    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus
    There you go
    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers
    Wikipedia, really?
    You ask for the link. You are provided the link. You ridicule the link.

    Though I disagree with pseudolus, perhaps you'd do better critiquing the contents . . . but then that would be breaking a habit.

    I tend to view pseudolus' posts of this nature as a type of David44-ish attempt at making posters think about the issue from different sides
    He didn't really get it, did he. US controls ISIS, so who is their leader? Well, the general in charge the the US Army in the middle east, that's who.


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    Yes, Pseudo, I got it. What you didn't get is my asking for a link like many of you do. Does that mean the joke is on you?

    PH, I do wish when you place someone on ignore, it would include quotes as well. Your idiotic personal attacks are still pretty infantile.

    Since I started this thread and would like to see it continue, I will bow out now and go play somewhere else.

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    The Russian Embassy in UAE has hit the ground running.




    Find the right #Syrian rebel to arm - non-trivial task to start your day with | #Syria #سوريا #ISIL #Nusra #داعش


    https://twitter.com/RusEmbassyUAE

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    Quote Originally Posted by longway View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by longway View Post
    ^ The US smashed them, what they lost was the peace, and its no wonder as the Afghanistan invasion was just a curtain raiser/smokescreen for their real target - Iraq; they walked away with consolidating their victory properly.

    They had no interest or reason to have a stable Afghanistan and it shows.

    Iraq of course was a different story - but thats Douche and Dumbsfeld for you.
    Smashed them.

    Yeah right.

    And that's why they'll be taking over the country just as soon as the seppos have run away with their tails between their legs.

    Meanwhile the instigators you describe have coined it at the expense of billions of dollars, thousands of American lives and who knows how many good and bad Afghanis who've been on the end of a carpet bombing or two.

    11 dead as U.S. aircraft crashes in eastern Afghanistan - CNNPolitics.com

    I have read the history and the way the us threw afghanistan into the toilet is sad, the actual invasion was a rout. They no interest. They tried to right it later but it was too late by then.
    Rout my arse. That's like saying you've eliminated ants because you stomped on a few.

    All the "invasion" did was drive them underground and into hiding.

    And they've been picking off US troops ever since.

    They don't mind dying, so there's an inexhaustible supply of them.

    Actually a lot like ants really. Or cockroaches.

    Russia couldn't beat them and were not defeated militarily, they were just worn down because they could not win.

    Same with the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers View Post
    Yes, Pseudo, I got it. What you didn't get is my asking for a link like many of you do. Does that mean the joke is on you?

    PH, I do wish when you place someone on ignore, it would include quotes as well. Your idiotic personal attacks are still pretty infantile.

    Since I started this thread and would like to see it continue, I will bow out now and go play somewhere else.

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