What Will It Take To Get Rid Of ISIS?

**harrybarracuda** · 10-11-2018, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by Cujo

Maybe time for some empire building.

I think they wanted to win hearts and minds, but the few that they did ended up buying shitloads of condos and villas in Dubai with the reconstruction money.

**Klondyke** · 10-11-2018, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by jabir

In 5-20 years Afghanistan will be as it was twenty years ago, and as it will be in 50.

So, what's has improved for the Afghan population after 17 years of occupation?

**bowie** · 10-11-2018, 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by Klondyke

So, what's has improved for the Afghan population after 17 years of occupation?

Absolutely certain many have managed to line their pockets.

**Klondyke** · 10-11-2018, 10:41 PM

^Unlike the ones who have tried so hard to bring them a "democracy"...

**SKkin** · 11-11-2018, 07:33 AM

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Unlike the ones who have tried so hard to bring them a "democracy"...

That comes in through pipelines, right?

**Klondyke** · 11-11-2018, 09:28 AM

^
So, one is wondering why the local population is not happy and thankful for such developments and improvements of life (their life?)

**SKkin** · 11-11-2018, 03:32 PM

Reasons for the US to be in Afghanistan.

1)Pipelines
2)Poppies
3)Precious (rare earth) minerals

2,000) "bring democracy"
2,001) 9/11

**Klondyke** · 11-11-2018, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by SKkin

Reasons for the US to be in Afghanistan.

1)Pipelines
2)Poppies
3)Precious (rare earth) minerals

4)a defending military base against attacks from dangerous Mr. P.

**OhOh** · 03-12-2018, 09:00 PM

Government forces eliminate IS militants in southern Syria

December 03, 8:42 UTC+3

Most of the militants had arrived in As-Suwayda from the al-Tanf area controlled by the US-led coalition

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© Valeriy Sharifulin/TASS

DAMASCUS, December 3. /TASS/.

"Syrian troops have wiped out more than 270 militants of the Islamic State (IS, terror group, outlawed in Russia) during the offensive in As-Suwayda Governorate since the middle of November, Oleg Makarevich, a spokesman for the command of the Russian task force in Syria, told reporters.

On November 19, the Syrian armed forces said the entire Al-Safa Canyon area located less than 100 kilometers from Damascus had been liberated from terrorists in As-Suwayda. An area of 380 square kilometers was liberated, while IS leader in southern Syria, Abu Hajar al-Shishani, was eliminated during the operation, according to the SANA news agency. The Syrian military thus eliminated the last militant stronghold in the south of that country."

TASS: World - Government forces eliminate IS militants in southern Syria

**pseudolus** · 03-12-2018, 09:10 PM

Ahh fuck it - the Murkins and Brits will have to start bombing Syria goverment forces more to help their pet poodles.

**harrybarracuda** · 04-12-2018, 02:05 AM

Of course it's all true.

It's from TASS.

TASS is registered as a Federal State Unitary Enterprise, owned by the Government of Russia

Fucking Ohoh swallows this like Buttplug swallows the katoey cock.

**OhOh** · 04-12-2018, 03:07 PM

Alternatively.

https://sana.sy/en/?p=152584

**harrybarracuda** · 04-12-2018, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by OhOh

Alternatively.

https://sana.sy/en/?p=152584

Do you have any actual news sources?

**OhOh** · 18-12-2018, 12:04 PM

Putin calendar sales surpassing those of Japanese stars in Japan

Dec. 17 07:00 am JST 39 Comments
By Krista Rogers, SoraNews24

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"The current leader in 2019 calendar sales at a popular chain store in Japan is not a fresh-faced young idol, nor is it a sexy heart-throb actor. Rather, Vladimir Putin, the 66-year-old president of Russia, takes the cake in that category. That’s right, the very same exercise buff that also has claim to a fragrance in his home country and a manga in Japan is currently contributing to an unprecedented number of calendar sales in a foreign country.

The Putin-dedicated calendars are being sold by Loft, a popular Japanese store that sells miscellaneous household and everyday goods. The company reports that it began selling a variety of “famous people” 2019 calendars back in September, and Putin’s sales have continuously dominated all others throughout its nationwide locations. Loft actually began selling Putin calendars three years ago based on their popularity in Russia. Past calendars include this year’s version which featured the president chilling with dogs (including his pet Akita Inu named Yume [“Dream”] from Akita Prefecture, Japan) and 2016’s version which included an infamous shirtless fishing photo."

https://japantoday.com/category/national/putin-calendar-sales-surpassing-those-of-japanese-stars-in-japan

The first of 39 comments:

gokai_wo_manekuDec. 17 06:44 am JST

"Any word on the number of Trump calendars sold? Just curious.

12( +16 / -4 )"

**jabir** · 18-12-2018, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by OhOh

"Any word on the number of Trump calendars sold? Just curious.

Pelosi bought one for her dartboard.

**OhOh** · 19-12-2018, 10:14 PM

In Drastic Reversal, US Set For "Full Withdrawal" From Syria As Trump Claims Victory Over ISIS

update: It's official, within an hour after the first headline the president tweeted "We have defeated ISIS in Syria" and in reference to reports of a planned US troop withdrawal from Syria which unnamed officials say is to be initiated "immediately," he added that the terror group's defeat was "my only reason for being there".

We have defeated ISIS in Syria, my only reason for being there during the Trump Presidency.

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 19, 2018

Minutes after the WSJ first broke the story, The Washington Post confirmed the following through a defense official:

The official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss a decision that has not yet been announced, said the decision would include the entire force of more than 2,000 U.S. service members. It was made on Tuesday, the official said.

President Trump has long promised to conclude the campaign against the Islamic State and has questioned the value of costly and dangerous military missions overseas.

***

The WSJ just reported a monumental and historic reversal in White House policy on Syria, revealing Wednesday morning the Pentagon is preparing to withdraw all forces from northeastern Syria "immediately":

In an abrupt reversal, the U.S. military is preparing to withdraw its forces from northeastern Syria, people familiar with the matter said Wednesday, a move that throws the American strategy in the Middle East into turmoil.
U.S. officials began informing partners in northeastern Syria of their plans to begin immediately pulling American forces out of the region where they have been trying to wrap up the campaign against Islamic State, the people said.

US forces in Syria, via ABC News

The WSJ notes the complete 180 reversal in policy, which just days ago was reiterated by officials as an "indefinite" American presence in Syria in order to "counter Iran" while bolstering Kurdish and Arab SDF forces in the East (the YPG-dominated Syrian Democratic Forces), comes following a phone call last week between President Trump and Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

For the past week Erdogan has threatened to launch a full-scale cross border assault on US-backed Kurdish forces in Syria, which Turkey has long considered an terrorist extension of the outlawed PKK. This would potentially bring American troops and advisers under fire, who've found themselves in the awkward position since entering Syria of training Syrian Kurdish militias on the one hand, and coordinating broadly with a NATO ally on the other.

Perhaps Trump finally took full stock of the fact that the prior planned "indefinite" presence of some 4000 American troops was recipe for a quagmire sure to be Washington's next Afghan or Iraq style "endless war"?

As one recent intelligence study put it: "The prospect of US being militarily involved in Syria, caught in middle of one of most complex conflicts in recent memory, with shifting objectives & ambiguous endgame, has been met with congressional indifference and public apathy."

Will America finally exit Syria? Is Trump belatedly making good on his campaign promises?

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-19/drastic-reversal-us-prepares-full-withdrawal-forces-syria-immediately

Who will take care of the Kurds/SDF/.......?

Does the "2,000 U.S. service members" include all the special ops, the ISIS funded remnants, the ISIS leaders? Will some other "coalition" take their place? Will the arms and airfields be peaceable handed over to the Syrian Government, Turkish, Israeli or "others" ?

Or will ISIS be moved elsewhere to carry on the good work for goldilocks in some far and distant land, overseas.

**Neverna** · 19-12-2018, 10:22 PM

CBS News is reporting the same thing.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-a...a-immediately/

White House tells Pentagon to plan to withdraw troops from Syria

The White House has instructed the Pentagon to begin planning for the immediate withdrawal of all 2,000 U.S. troops from Syria, CBS News correspondent David Martin confirms.

President Trump, who has long wanted to withdraw troops from the war-torn region, suggested on Twitter Wednesday that ISIS is defeated and therefore, there is no more reason to be there.

"We have defeated ISIS in Syria, my only reason for being there during the Trump presidency," Mr. Trump tweeted Wednesday morning, without explicitly confirming an order to look to withdraw troops.

The Pentagon was not as definitive, and Mr. Trump's own administration has suggested ISIS isn't defeated.

"At this time, we continue to work by, with and through our partners in the region," Pentagon spokesman Col. Rob Manning told reporters in a statement.

Two weeks ago, Special Envoy Brett McGurk said the end of ISIS will be a long-term initiative, and "nobody is declaring mission accomplished."

**OhOh** · 19-12-2018, 10:31 PM

The bells will be ringing this Christmas for sure if it happens.

**AntRobertson** · 19-12-2018, 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by OhOh

the very same exercise buff that also has claim to a fragrance in his home country and a manga in Japan is currently contributing to an unprecedented number of calendar sales in a foreign country

He's fat and has moobs.

**Klondyke** · 19-12-2018, 10:40 PM

Deja vu. When it was that Trump one week ordered something like thios and the next week sent the missiles?

I do not believe that a sentence like this is possible:

The White House has instructed the Pentagon...

**Neverna** · 19-12-2018, 10:51 PM

Will Macron intervene to try to persuade Trump to change his mind again?

**Klondyke** · 19-12-2018, 10:55 PM

It has to be true, it's on rt...

Trump says ‘we have defeated ISIS’ amid reports of US withdrawal from Syria
Published time: 19 Dec, 2018 14:25

The decision was allegedly taken by President Donald Trump himself, who had repeatedly expressed his intent to get out of the Arab Republic earlier. However, the Pentagon apparently opposes the move. The potential withdrawal would upend assumption about the long-term US presence in the war-ravaged country, which was particularly backed by the Defense Secretary James Mattis.

The schedule, as well as the details of the alleged withdrawal, are yet unknown. While the Pentagon and the White House did not issue any official statements on the issue, Trump said in a Twitter post that Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL), which he called "the only reason for [the US troops] being there [in Syria],” has been defeted, apparently signaling that there was no reason for the US to stay on the ground in Syria any longer.

According to some reports, the withdrawal might primarily affect the US troops on the ground working together with an alliance of Arab and Kurdish militias, known as the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF). The US has a total of 2,000 servicemen there, who are particularly involved in training the local militias. The news come as the SDF are reportedly on the verge of retaking one of the terrorist group’s last major strongholds – the town of Hajin, located east of the Euphrates.

However, even after the withdrawal, the US would still maintain a sizeable presence in the neighboring Iraq, with some 5,200 troops stationed just across the Syrian border. The aircraft of the US-led coalition – the primary tool of Washington and its allies in the Syrian conflict – will also still be able to continue their air raids flying out of Qatar and other bases in the Middle East.

Washington’s decision also comes days after the Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan urged the US to make its Kurdish allies withdraw from the town of Manbij, located west of the Euphrates, in the northeastern Syria.

Ankara considers Syrian Kurdish paramilitaries as an extension of the Turkey-based anti-government guerrillas and brands the Syrian Kurdish YPG militia as terrorists. Erdogan threatened to order his troops to storm the town if the US fails to fulfill his demand. Last week, he announced plans to launch a military operation in the Kurdish areas “within days.”

In early December, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Joseph Dunford complained that the US lacks trained local fighters on the ground to “provide stability” to Syria.

Trump made an announcement that the US would be leaving Syria “very soon” back in March and never officially walked it back.

https://www.rt.com/usa/446863-comple...hdrawal-syria/

**harrybarracuda** · 20-12-2018, 12:47 PM

So baldy orange cunto is basically throwing the Kurds under the bus after they helped America defeat Islamic State.

How thoughtful of him.

**Neverna** · 20-12-2018, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

So baldy orange cunto is basically throwing the Kurds under the bus

That's what I thought too, but perhaps Trump has a cunning plan up his sleeve.

**harrybarracuda** · 20-12-2018, 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by Neverna

That's what I thought too, but perhaps Trump has a cunning plan up his sleeve.

A new baldy orange cunto tower in Istanbul maybe?

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