The 'Americans Getting Shot' Thread

[DrWilly]

Skiddy is just having another troll...

Thank goodness he doesn't have easy access to guns.

There is that small mercy. TD is actually doing a public service keeping him entertained.

[Norton]

deeply troubled individual who was able to get his hands on a high powered rifle

The two key aspects that need to be fixed if these mass shootings are to end.

Limiting availabilty of guns alone won't solve the problem without reducing the high number of mentally ill in the US.

[panama hat]

Ah, the mentally ill schtick ... Limit access to guns and the mentally ill would be reduced to hitting people with rubber chickens.

The issue is guns, items used to kill on a large scale and anything else is simple obfuscation.

[beachbound]

The issue is guns

Full stop

We have a gun addiction, in the US, and the problem is exacerbated by our “leaders” who’ve convinced a large segment of society that guns keep us safe.
(The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun, is a good guy with a gun.)

[Seekingasylum]

Just when you think Americans can't get any dumber, more shit emerges proving otherwise.

After threatening to kill his family by stabbing them to death in 2019 the police confiscate his collection of knives. A few months before he had attempted suicide and the police attended. Despite his facial tattoos and increasingly erratic behaviour he then buys legally a personal arsenal of five handguns and rifles which he stores at home.

[malmomike77]

Limiting availabilty of guns alone won't solve the problem without reducing the high number of mentally ill in the US.

They certainly aren't offing themselves quickly enough for that to happen that is for sure.

[Backspin]

Just when you think Americans can't get any dumber, more shit emerges proving otherwise.

After threatening to kill his family by stabbing them to death in 2019 the police confiscate his collection of knives. A few months before he had attempted suicide and the police attended. Despite his facial tattoos and increasingly erratic behaviour he then buys legally a personal arsenal of five handguns and rifles which he stores at home.

I thought they still had a basic backround check.

Google search

How a Federal Gun Background Check Works

In the United States, anybody who wants to buy a gun from a federally licensed firearms dealer (FFL) is subject to a background check. Since 1998, when the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, or NICS, went online, the Federal Bureau of Investigation has processed more than 320 million of them.

This mad cocksuckers priors would have prevented him from buying a gun from a dealer anyway. Who would even sell guns to this freak at a gun show? Very stupid ppl I guess

[S Landreth]

Robert Crimo III: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

He was at the airport when Trump landed. & Photos emerged that appear to show him in a Pepe the Frog shirt and at a Trump rally.

[beachbound]

This mad cocksuckers priors would have prevented him from buying a gun from a dealer anyway. Who would even sell guns to this freak at a gun show? Very stupid ppl I guess

Dad of suspect in Highland Park Fourth of July massacre OK’d his seeking gun permit, state police say


Dad of July 4 massacre suspect OK’d his gun permit | WBEZ Chicago

[harrybarracuda]

Robert Crimo III: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

He was at the airport when Trump landed. & Photos emerged that appear to show him in a Pepe the Frog shirt and at a Trump rally.

Yes but we know you have to be fucked in the head to be a trumpanzee.

[S Landreth]

Dad of suspect......

It has since emerged that the suspected gunman’s father, Bob Crimo, a longtime deli owner who previously ran a failed campaign for mayor of Highland Park, on May 27 “liked” a tweet that read:
“Protect the Second Amendment like your life depends on it.”

[Hugh Cow]

The sad fact is there will be many more pages posted here on Americans killed by guns and the accompanying tragedy visited on man American families and there will still be many Americans talking about the second amendment as well as all the accompanying NRA catch phrases. The only way there will be change is after all the believers in the second amendment have shot each other, although that is likely to take a while.

[S Landreth]

One more post about this kid before I label him a right-wing domestic terrorist

Almost 100% positively identified as a left wing domestic terrorist.

Look here

This account “@awake_________

[Backspin]

^ Don't make me.

[Cujo]

^ Don't make me.

He's a right wing gun nut Trumpist. But he's not a terrorist, He's just a naughty boy.
This terrorist label gets thrown around too loosely these days.
Terrorists have purpose to what they do. Randomly shooting up a fourth of July parade is without purpose unless it's to discourage fourth of July parades.
He's obviously just one fucked up dude. Drugs also have a hand in this I would guess.

[harrybarracuda]

He's a right wing gun nut Trumpist. But he's not a terrorist, He's just a naughty boy.
This terrorist label gets thrown around too loosely these days.
Terrorists have purpose to what they do. Randomly shooting up a fourth of July parade is without purpose unless it's to discourage fourth of July parades.

Clearly you have no idea what terrorism is.

Do you think the IRA blew up pubs to stop drinking?

[Cujo]

Clearly you have no idea what terrorism is.

Do you think the IRA blew up pubs to stop drinking?

Are you seriously comparing this loose cannon with the IRA
But you prove my point. They blew up SPECIFIC pubs with specific targets in mind to achieve goal/purpose.
What do you think this guy was trying to achieve or what cause was he trying to further with this random act of violence (as opposed to terrorism) serious question, I'd appreciate an answer.
I know you think you're quite clever but you can be a fucking idiot sometimes.

[Cujo]

The father of the Highland Park gunman will be criminally investigated in connection with the Independence Day attack for signing an affidavit supporting his son’s application for a gun license, police said.


Robert Crimo Jr, the father of Robert Crimo III – who is suspected of killing seven people at a Fourth of July parade in a suburb of Chicago – sponsored his son’s firearm owner application in 2019.


Speaking to media before the announcement of the investigation into him, Crimo Jr denied any responsibility for the attack. “I had no – not an inkling, warning – that this was going to happen,” Crimo told ABC News.


In Illinois, individuals must be at least 21 to independently obtain a Firearm Owners Identification (FOID), which is generally needed to legally own a gun.


Anyone under 21 can apply for a FOID with the written consent of a parent or legal guardian who is not prohibited from having a FOID card themselves.


In doing so, they agree to be held liable for “any damages resulting from the minor applicant’s use of firearms or firearm ammunition”.


Illinois state police confirmed on Wednesday that Crimo signed off on his son’s application in December 2019 despite his son having two previous encounters with local police, including one in September 2019 where he allegedly threatened to “kill everybody” in his family.


During that visit, police confiscated a number of weapons in the alleged gunman’s possession, including 16 knives, a dagger and a sword.


The weapons were later returned to the family, however, after Crimo Jr claimed they were his, not his son’s, and were just being stored in his son’s room for safekeeping.


On Monday, Robert Crimo III killed seven people and injured more than 40 during a Fourth of July parade in the Chicago suburb of Highland Park, Illinois. Currently held on seven counts of first-degree murder, if convicted, the gunman faces a maximum penalty of life in prison without the possibility of parole.


Police said on Thursday that he also considered attacking another parade in Madison, Wisconsin, but drove back to Illinois instead, where he was later arrested at the wheel of his mother’s car.


Crimo Jr has acknowledged that he signed off on the gun application for his son noting that his son was approved after going through background checks.


“They do background checks. Whatever that entails, I’m not exactly sure. And either you’re approved or denied, and he was approved,” Crimo told ABC.


He said he did not regret sponsoring the firearm application, saying his son later obtained various firearms before the Independence Day attack himself.


“Do I regret that? No, not three years ago – signing a consent form to go through the process … that’s all it was,” Crimo said. “Had I purchased guns throughout the years and given them to him in my name, that’s a different story. But he went through that whole process himself.”


He added he was not worried about the legal consequences of signing off on his son’s application, saying his son “has good morals” and was not raised in an abusive environment.


He also said he spoke to his son just a few hours before the massacre about a different mass shooting at a mall in Copenhagen, Denmark. Crimo Jr said his son called the Copenhagen shooter “an idiot”.


“He goes, ‘Yeah, that guy is an idiot.’ That’s what he said,” Crimo Jr told the New York Post.


The investigation into Crimo Jr follows a recent case in Michigan in which the parents of a 15-year-old Michigan boy who killed four classmates and injured seven people in November 2021 were charged with involuntary manslaughter in connection to the massacre.


Jennifer and James Crumbley are accused of gross neglect for gifting the gun used in the mass shooting to their son, and for failing to intervene after their son exhibited signs of mental distress at school and at home.


The Highland Park massacre was just one of 13 mass shootings (defined as events in which four or more people died) across the US over the Fourth of July weekend.


On Thursday, police in Virginia claimed to have foiled yet another planned mass shooting on Independence Day, after receiving an anonymous tip from a caller who said he overhead two men planning a shooting spree at the Dogwood Dell Amphitheater, a local entertainment venue in Richmond. The men have been detained with multiple assault rifles and more than 200 rounds of ammunition in their possession.

Highland Park suspect’s father to be investigated for signing gun application | Highland Park shooting | The Guardian

[DrWilly]

“ The Highland Park massacre was just one of 13 mass shootings (defined as events in which four or more people died) across the US over the Fourth of July weekend.“

[Norton]

“ The Highland Park massacre was just one of 13 mass shootings (defined as events in which four or more people died) across the US over the Fourth of July weekend.“

Raise the number to at least 50 to put an end to these mass shootings.

[harrybarracuda]

[beachbound]

Uvalde police officer stops to apply hand sanitizer.

[DrWilly]

Uvalde police officer stops to apply hand sanitizer.

He/she didnt really stop to use sanitiser as such. The officers were already stopped waiting for their colleagues upfront.

[beachbound]

^
That’s not really the point, Willy. The fact that he was so disconnected from the gravity of the situation, that stopping to use hand sanitizer was on his mind, is unconscionable.

[DrWilly]

I am not disagreeing that it was a bizarre and strange act. To be honest, it looks like he is using a cellphone to check his WhatApps or Facebook, I find that far more unconscionable

that stopping to use hand sanitizer was on his mind

He did not stop to use hand sanitiser.