Thread: What is the cause of terrorism?

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Is it religion or is it western foreign policy resulting in wars?

Where does terrorism happen? In the west?



No.

Does the war on terror kill terrorists?



No. It kills civilians.

Do terrorists kills loads of westerners then?

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No. If you are subject to a "terrorist attack" you have a very good chance of being alive at the end of it.

Rand Corporation says

And a Rand Corporation study concluded:

‘The comprehensive study analyzes 648 terrorist groups that existed between 1968 and 2006, drawing from a terrorism database maintained by RAND and the Memorial Institute for the Prevention of Terrorism. The most common way that terrorist groups end - 43 percent - was via a transition to the political process…Military force was effective in only 7 percent of the cases examined’.

and

Read what Foreign Policy, the house journal of the US diplomatic elite, had to say in a 2010 an article called ‘It’s the Occupation, stupid!’:

‘Each month, there are more suicide terrorists trying to kill Americans and their allies in Afghanistan, Iraq, and other Muslim countries than in all the years before 2001 combined. From 1980 to 2003, there were 343 suicide attacks around the world, and at most 10 percent were anti-American inspired. Since 2004, there have been more than 2,000, over 91 percent against U.S. and allied forces in Afghanistan, Iraq, and other countries’.

So is islam the problem?

Originally Posted by pseudolus

So is islam the problem?

Obviously.

I would have thought the answer is very fucking simple.

Terrorists.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

The most common way that terrorist groups end - 43 percent - was via a transition to the political process…

Unfortunately, because Islam is a religion, a personal ideology and a political structure that voids democracy, that is never going to happen.

One has to define terrorism first. The meaning changes with time and place - and it seems to be very loosely defined in some places these days.

Interestingly, the term "terrorism" was first popularized during the French revolution.

Originally Posted by Neverna

One has to define terrorism first. The meaning changes with time and place - and it seems to be very loosely defined in some places these days.

Interestingly, the term "terrorism" was first popularized during the French revolution.

Thinking the same about real definitions of what terrorism might be before we can begin to babble on with cause and effect.

Terrorism can appear and be defined true in a wide range of subjective situations.

Obviously, in today's very conditioned and brainwashed climate, there is only one direction in which terrorism/terrorist will be accepted.

Aren't we existing in a fool's fantasy without addressing the real picture?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I would have thought the answer is very fucking simple.
Terrorists.

Bingo...

I would think what causes terrorism is frustration ,, frustration within splinter groups .

Small groups who are deep in they're own beliefs ,, cannot see outside the group

Originally Posted by Lancelot

The tension between Christians and Muslims far predates the creation of Israel, European Colonialism, Gulf War I, Invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan. George Friedman makes a point that Muslim terrorists were assassinating those thought to be heretics centuries ago. From Friedman:

First, if it is true that Islam is merely responding to crimes against it, those crimes are not new and certainly didn't originate in the creation of Israel, the invasion of Iraq or recent events. This has been going on far longer than that. For instance, the Assassins were a secret Islamic order to make war on individuals they saw as Muslim heretics. There is nothing new in what is going on, and it will not end if peace comes to Iraq, Muslims occupy Kashmir or Israel is destroyed. Nor is secularism about to sweep the Islamic world. The Arab Spring was a Western fantasy that the collapse of communism in 1989 was repeating itself in the Islamic world with the same results. There are certainly Muslim liberals and secularists. However, they do not control events — no single group does — and it is the events, not the theory, that shape our lives.

Friedman makes another good point, basically that Europe wanted cheap labor and Muslims wanted money, so they (Muslims) were tolerated and allowed to immigrate. Conversely the Muslims had no intensions of integrating and no desire to adopt the core values of their new home.

Not a good combination...

A War Between Two Worlds | Stratfor

You couldn't pick a worse choice for a quote if you tried. Why not next time use Dick Cheney? Perhaps some shmo from blackwater (or what ever they are called now).

Anyway, the US state department stats don't lie. Before "war on terror" all very stable. After it, all hell breaks loose. IN your crazy world that is a coincidence though.

US, British and French militaries extended presence in Saudi was a possible trigger.

Definitive contemporary terrorists......

The thought that the 72 virgins could be a myth, that's enough to drive a suicide bomber nuts.

Believe me
They are getting fucked

"One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" is a rather lazy way of thinking. It doesn't consider the possibility, for example, that the other man is a nutcase.

Corporate terrorism.
Inundates us all.

Originally Posted by thaimeme

Corporate terrorism.

Give us an example.

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by thaimeme

Corporate terrorism.

Give us an example.

Shell accused of fuelling violence in Nigeria by paying rival militant gangs | World news | The Guardian

TERRORISM: the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political, social, or financial aims.

TERROR: a state of inspired fear or anxiety


....broad definitions, not specific ones.

Balfour Decleration

Originally Posted by spliff

Balfour Decleration

It's an interesting concept. Do you think present day Islamic extremism would not exist if Israel had not been created?

Hide The Ball S365E943

Originally Posted by thaimeme

Definitive contemporary terrorists......

Educated in Thailand were you?

Their leaders do seem a little....well....totalitarian.