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    90-year-old Florida man arrested for second time in a week after feeding the homeless again

    "I think they feel a little guilty doing their job,' said 90-year-old Ft. Lauderdale man Arnold Abbott, who served more than 100 plates to homeless people on Wednesday with members of the charity he founded before he was issued another citation. Abbott potentially faces 60 days in jail or a $500 fine.

    Monday, November 10, 2014, 9:56 AM



    Arnold Abbott, 90, said he thinks the police 'feel a little guilty doing their job.'

    When 90-year-old Florida resident Arnold Abbott said following his arrest on Sunday that police couldn’t stop him from feeding the homeless, he apparently meant it.

    Abbott was charged again on Wednesday night for violating a new city law in Ft. Lauderdale that essentially prevents people from feeding the homeless.

    “I expected it" he said in a Sun Sentinel report. “At least this time they let us feed people first.”

    Officers lingered in the area for about 45 minutes during which time Abbott and volunteers with the Love Thy Neighbor charity he founded handed out more than 100 plates of hot chicken stew, pasta, cheesy potatoes and fruit salad to homeless men and women.

    If he’s found guilty of violating city ordinance laws — his second in a week — he faces 60 days in jail or a $500 fine.

    Abbott said he’s prepared to go to jail over his efforts.

    “Why do I keep doing this?" he asked rhetorically. "Because these are my people and they deserve to be fed."

    In a slightly more confrontational incident on Sunday, four police cruisers and approximately a half dozen officers with the Ft. Lauderdale Police Department descended upon an area in the city where Abbott, charity representatives and church members were handing out hot meals to local homeless people.

    One officer demanded that he “drop that plate right now” as others picked up the trays off food and inserted them directly into the garbage with lines of homeless people looking on.



    Abott and representatives from his charity handed out more than 100 plates to homeless people on Wednesday night before being taken in custody by Ft. Lauderdale police.

    The new law in Ft. Lauderdale comes after the city announced in January that people are restricted from camping, panhandling, food sharing and engaging in other “life sustaining activities." The laws regarding food sharing where ironically enacted on Halloween when millions of people were out sharing candy.

    Abbott applauded the officers for being more courteous in their enforcement of the law the second time around this week.
    “They were very gentle," Abbott said. "I think they feel a little guilty doing their job."


    Man, 90, arrested again this week for feeding the homeless - NY Daily News
    Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What a Ride!"

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    The new law in Ft. Lauderdale comes after the city announced in January that people are restricted from camping, panhandling, food sharing and engaging in other “life sustaining activities." The laws regarding food sharing where ironically enacted on Halloween when millions of people were out sharing candy.

    Fukin 'ell, even North Korea isn't that draconian.

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    If you feed them, they will only keep coming back...


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    all you have to see in that headline is FLORIDA... and you know its going to be a fucked up story!

    arresting a good hearted guy for feeding the homeless.... welcome to the rethugliKKKlan amerikkka!!!!

    if you don't feed them they may just crawl off in an alley and die! Look we solved the homeless problem!

    rethugliKKKlans say the government based social welfare system should be abolished because churches should take care of this stuff... then a church does and they pass a law making it illegal....

    American right wing hypocrisy at its finest!

    and the people who elect these right wing jackoffs all love to say how much they love the baby jesus! Hmmm... what would jesus do?


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    Not a socially or familiarly connected culture.

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    Wonder if he dropped the plate when asked, suppose he did or he would of been tasered or shot.

    Beggars Belief.

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    A law against “life sustaining activities"? Faark! What kind of weird drugs are they on?

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    A law against 'food sharing'? WTF.
    Really, what kind of thinking is behind this shit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    A law against “life sustaining activities"? Faark! What kind of weird drugs are they on?
    Such mandates are commonly accepted by the society.
    Reflection of what the population is really about.

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    The cop looks like he's been sharing quite a bit of food, but the old guy being arrested looks like he needs to be fed a bit more.....

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    The sad fact is, in cities where Christian feed-the-homeless programs proliferate, drunkards and drug addicts flock from surrounding areas. The homeless aren't provided with a home, money to fuel their addictions, or counseling, so bring with them many other problems the residents don't want to deal with.

    Homelessness is a bigger problem than just meals.

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    So Homelessness brings problems and what problems did many have to become homeless.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    The sad fact is, in cities where Christian feed-the-homeless programs proliferate, drunkards and drug addicts flock from surrounding areas. The homeless aren't provided with a home, money to fuel their addictions, or counseling, so bring with them many other problems the residents don't want to deal with.

    Homelessness is a bigger problem than just meals.
    Very true. However, to criminalise someone for sharing, helping, assisting fellow humans no matter what their circumstances just shows how far into a moral abyss the world is falling.

    No profits to me made in helping people. There is in imprisoning them, sending them off to war, keeping them on the breadline as debt slaves. But not in helping people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    A law against “life sustaining activities"? Faark! What kind of weird drugs are they on?
    faux news and rethugliKKKlan kool-aid

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    They really need to put the politicians who pass these stupid laws in jail...case closed.

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    I guess they hope if they don't feed them they'll move up to Pompano.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl View Post
    They really need to put the politicians who pass these stupid laws in jail...case closed.
    Well....in theory, these politicians are representing the population's wishes and standards, yes?

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    ^ Of course. Ft. Lauderdale survives on tourism. They don't want homeless vagrants and derelicts to scare the tourists away from the beach. Business owners put a lot of pressure on city hall to keep things neat and tidy. I'm sure they don't want these folks to starve they just want to move the perceived problem someplace else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thaimeme View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl View Post
    They really need to put the politicians who pass these stupid laws in jail...case closed.
    Well....in theory, these politicians are representing the population's wishes and standards, yes?
    In theory yes, but in fact they represent their corporate sponsors wishes and standards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    ^ Of course. Ft. Lauderdale survives on tourism. They don't want homeless vagrants and derelicts to scare the tourists away from the beach. Business owners put a lot of pressure on city hall to keep things neat and tidy. I'm sure they don't want these folks to starve they just want to move the perceived problem someplace else.
    Twisted priorities...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    ^ Of course. Ft. Lauderdale survives on tourism. They don't want homeless vagrants and derelicts to scare the tourists away from the beach. Business owners put a lot of pressure on city hall to keep things neat and tidy. I'm sure they don't want these folks to starve they just want to move the perceived problem someplace else.
    So basically they're a bunch of NIMBY arseholes.

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    Only in America...

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    an update from a local paper

    John David, an attorney representing Abbott, said that earlier Wednesday he had filed in Broward court a motion to enforce an injunction issued more than 14 years ago that halted efforts by a previous city administration to stop the homeless advocate from feeding people on the beach. Abbott and David contend that injunction is still valid.

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    He's lucky he wasn't a small black puppy, or a baby in a crib, and that he didn't put his hands up o hold a penknife.
    Though if he'd waved his spoon around or been a war hero with cane they probably woulda just shot him in the face (after clubbing and tazing him natch...).

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    last update from me: Judge orders Fort Lauderdale to stop enforcing homeless feeding law - Sun Sentinel

    A judge ordered Fort Lauderdale on Tuesday to temporarily stop enforcing a new law than restricts the feeding of homeless people, intervening in a controversy that has brought the city a storm of negative international attention. (Ya think? )

    Broward Circuit Judge Thomas Lynch told all sides to enter into mediation during a 30-day period when the city will be prohibited from enforcing the new law.

    The decision came in the case of Arnold Abbott, the 90-year-old World War II veteran and retired jewelry salesman who has been feeding homeless people at the beach for years.

    The law, which took effect Oct. 31, limits where outdoor feeding sites can be located, requires the permission of property owners and says groups distributing food must provide portable toilets

    “We’re elated the judge has entered the stay,” said John David, Abbott’s attorney.

    Mayor Jack Seiler said mediation could be a constructive route.

    “We’ve been trying to find some amicable resolution,” he said. “We hope that Mr. Abbott meets us half way. We’ve asked him to meet us half way in the past.”

    “We would prefer to enforce our municipal ordinances,” he said. “But whether the judge was trying to take a little steam off the kettle, whether the judge was trying to give a little period of quiet during the holidays, I’m not sure what was the logic behind his decision.”

    Abbott’s group, Love Thy Neighbor, which has been feeding the homeless for 23 years, defied the ban as did other groups such as Food Not Bombs.

    The Rev. Mark Sims, of St. Mary Magdalene Episcopal Church in Coral Springs, who has also been cited by the city for feeding the homeless, said the judge’s decision will allow all sides to work toward a solution.

    “I’m very pleased,” said Sims, who has filed a lawsuit seeking to halt the enforcement of the ordinance. “I think it’s a great first step for the city to sit down with a more varied group of people to work out a plan so we can provide food for everyone who is hungry in the city, not just those who are in the large shelters.”

    At Stranahan Park late Tuesday afternoon, as downtown office workers drove past in the pouring rain, members of the Peanut Butter & Jelly Project pulled up in a Honda CR-V and prepared to hand out modest meals.

    “A step in the right director,” said the group’s vice president, Micah Harris, of the judge’s ruling. “I believe the city was a little bit quick to fire on how they would do this ordinance and” – he paused as a man rode up in a bicycle, soaked to the bone in the rain – “You hungry, man?”

    “Yes, I am,” said the man, John Campbell, 57, formerly of Hollywood, who now sleeps in a Salvation Army shelter.

    He handed Campbell a plastic grocery bag containing a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, a bag of pretzels, a banana and a bottle of water.

    Campbell said it’s not easy to get enough food from the various sources available to homeless people.

    “They give you very little,” he said. “It’s not enough. Maybe a sandwich. So you’re really hungry.”

    Under pressure from residents and downtown businesses, the city has adopted a series of restrictions, banning people from sleeping on benches and other public property downtown, panhandling at busy intersections, storing possessions on public property outdoors and defecating or urinating in public without proper disposal.

    City officials have said the law still allows the distribution of food but through institutions that can do it without degrading the quality of life in the city.

    The Broward County Commission on Tuesday invited anyone interested to attend a meeting Wednesday of its advisory board on homelessness. The meeting will be at 10 a.m. at the Broward County Governmental Center Annex, Room A-337, 115 S. Andrews Ave., Fort Lauderdale beginning.

    County Commissioner Barbara Sharief, the commission’s liaison to the board, said the county has been working hard for years to end homelessness and that “media hype” over the feeding issue has painted an unfair picture of the region’s approach to the problem.

    “The homeless ordinance in Fort Lauderdale is generating a lot of misinformation about addressing homelessness throughout the entire county,” she said.

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