Thread: The Confederate Flag

Originally Posted by DrB0b

abolished slavery in its own territory

England made it legal and somehow got a conscience and made it illegal.

Originally Posted by billy the kid

Originally Posted by DrB0b

abolished slavery in its own territory

England made it legal and somehow got a conscience and made it illegal.

True. That's called progress. There's no somehow about it either, the history of the abolition movement is very well known. Anyway, back to the topic, the Confederate flag is a vile and shameful symbol of one of the most disgusting episodes in human history. It's not a colourful symbol of better time and a fight for freedom, it's a symbol of a people who created the worst form of chattel slavery in human history and who then fought for the right to continue to inflict any atrocity they liked on a group of people they deemed to be lesser than animals.

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Originally Posted by billy the kid

Originally Posted by DrB0b

abolished slavery in its own territory

England made it legal and somehow got a conscience and made it illegal.

True. That's called progress. There's no somehow about it either, the history of the abolition movement is very well known. Anyway, back to the topic, the Confederate flag is a vile and shameful symbol of one of the most disgusting episodes in human history. It's not a colourful symbol of better time and a fight for freedom, it's a symbol of a people who created the worst form of chattel slavery in human history and who then fought for the right to continue to inflict any atrocity they liked on a group of people they deemed to be lesser than animals.

I take exception to your statement most disgusting times in human history. Have you not read the history of the BC era.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Originally Posted by billy the kid

Originally Posted by DrB0b

abolished slavery in its own territory

England made it legal and somehow got a conscience and made it illegal.

True. That's called progress. There's no somehow about it either, the history of the abolition movement is very well known. Anyway, back to the topic, the Confederate flag is a vile and shameful symbol of one of the most disgusting episodes in human history. It's not a colourful symbol of better time and a fight for freedom, it's a symbol of a people who created the worst form of chattel slavery in human history and who then fought for the right to continue to inflict any atrocity they liked on a group of people they deemed to be lesser than animals.

I take exception to your statement most disgusting times in human history. Have you not read the history of the BC era.

You're taking exception to a statement I didn't make, I said "one of the most disgusting episodes in human history" and I stand by it. American chattel slavery is considered by historians to have been the worst form of slavery in human history. It was the only form of slavery in which the slaves had no hope of freedom, the only form of slavery where the slave had no rights whatsoever, and the only form of slavery in which the slaves were considered to be absolutely and completely unhuman.

Feel free to point out which form of slavery in the "BC Era" was worse.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

I take exception to your statement most disgusting times in human history. Have you not read the history of the BC era.

Good grief . . .

Originally Posted by billy the kid

England made it legal and somehow got a conscience and made it illegal.

Actually the trade in slaves died due to over supply. Please note it was 12,000,000 in the South Americas alone. It does not reflect the slave trade in the North Americas by the British.

Once the market was full slave trade was subsidized by England's Empire of brutality in India and other occupied nations. History Gentlemen. You should read it.

how sweet

Originally Posted by baldrick

how sweet

Booners will be fapping furiously thanks to you.

It must be staged as there are no obese people in the picture . . .


Latest news from the US, speaking of obesity, the number of 'obese' people has overtaken the number of 'overweight' people.

America No 1!

OUTRAGE: Sniper Shoots Down Confederate Flag At S.C. Statehouse

In a crime that has outraged locals, a sniper has reportedly shot down the beloved Confederate flag that traditionally graces the Statehouse in Columbia, South Carolina. "This was clearly one very disturbed individual," said Council Chairman Harvey "Harve" Jeffcoat. "And I can tell you with certainty that he does not represent our community."....

All agree that this was a serious violation of state law. The Confederate flag is uniquely protected: The Charleston Post and Courier points out that "its status is outlined, by law, as being under the protected purview of the full S.C. Legislature, which controls if and when it comes down." Unlike the other flags, it is not on a pulley, so cannot easily be lowered to half-staff; and State Senator Vincent Sheheen (D) notes that its privileged position at the top of the flagpole is ensured by a padlock.....

The National Rifle Association issued a response to the incident, pleading for "reason and calm." They stressed that "guns are not brought into the world to commit this kind of crime," and restated their familiar position: "Guns do not shoot flags; people shoot flags." A local NRA representative, Scotty Wooten, acknowledged grudgingly that "the perpetrator had some skill with a rifle." Apparently the sniper dispatched the flag with only two shots, one of which went straight through the body of the padlock....

"Yeah, well that boy may be some kind of sniper, but he ain't no American Sniper," said Myron "Alma" Butts, a local gun dealer, who fought tears as he gazed up at the injured flagpole.

Editor's note: In case you missed it, this post is probably satire.

Originally Posted by wjblaney

OUTRAGE: Sniper Shoots Down Confederate Flag At S.C. Statehouse

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Originally Posted by billy the kid

Originally Posted by DrB0b

abolished slavery in its own territory

England made it legal and somehow got a conscience and made it illegal.

True. That's called progress. There's no somehow about it either, the history of the abolition movement is very well known. Anyway, back to the topic, the Confederate flag is a vile and shameful symbol of one of the most disgusting episodes in human history. It's not a colourful symbol of better time and a fight for freedom, it's a symbol of a people who created the worst form of chattel slavery in human history and who then fought for the right to continue to inflict any atrocity they liked on a group of people they deemed to be lesser than animals.

I agree with this.

Not sure if the Confederate flag was a symbol of those in the US who created it - by logic that would be the US flag, and before that the UK flag.

Slavery existed before US independence from the British. Then it continued after Independence.

But you could say yes, the confederate flag is a symbol of those that wanted to continue slavery.

My point.

We are making generalization about a.....flag.

Originally Posted by Black Heart

Not sure if the Confederate flag was a symbol of those in the US who created it - by logic that would be the US flag, and before that the UK flag.

That doesn't make any sense at all

Originally Posted by Black Heart

We are making generalization about a.....flag.

Well, yes. National flags ARE generalizations!

"Cooter" from the "Dukes of Hazzards" chimes in:

Dukes of Hazzard’s ‘Cooter’ defends Confederate flag
By Associated PressJune 24, 2015


COLUMBIA, S.C. — The actor who played Cooter on the TV series “Dukes of Hazzard” is defending the Confederate flag as a symbol of the spirit of independence.
Ben Jones posted on Facebook that fans of the show know that the flag represents values of the rural South including courage, family and good times.
Jones and his wife own two stores in Tennessee and one in Virginia that celebrate the show and its fictional Hazzard County. Jones also is a former U.S. congressman who represented Georgia. He served as a Democrat.

He says the flag is being attacked in a “wave of political correctness” that is vilifying Southern culture.

Dukes of Hazzard?s ?Cooter? defends Confederate flag | New York Post

The Confederate flag is a symbol of racism to many citizens. It has nothing to do with England's participation in the slave trade. Even people like Glen Beck want it removed from the state captitol buildings. If people want to celebrate it's heritage it should be viewed in a museum.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/co...rticle/2566849

Originally Posted by wjblaney

And the outcome of the Civil War (something, I'm sure, the canucks and brits feel blessed not to have suffered through) strengthened America's central govt.

Wot??

Originally Posted by quimbian corholla

Wot??

Dont think so? There will never be talk of secession in Amerika ever again.

Originally Posted by wjblaney

Dont think so? There will never be talk of secession in Amerika ever again.

In 1869 'Texas vs. White' the supreme court ruled that the states did not have the right to secede.

Maybe a checkered black & white racing flag might symbolize what's important in SC while bringing about racial harmony found upon the State's flag.




Possibly a NASCAR logo for royalties to boost State coffers.

(Note: Fort Sumter is in Charleston Harbour, SC flies an American R,W&B flag as it's a U.S. Natl Park.)

I'm a southern boy myself, though my circumstances were a bit different in that I was friends with black, half Flippers and half Japs kids growing up as I grew up in a "Navy" community, so I learned first hand what kind of shit they took.

I've always wondered what people see in glorifying what was an armed insurrection against the government, especially when the chief reason for the insurrection was slavery. It's not often you see people looking at their flag and saying "Wow, what a symbol of us losing a war we started because we wanted to treat humans inhumanly to boost our profit margins."

I wonder what the South Carolina flag was before the Civil War?

Originally Posted by CSFFan

I wonder what the South Carolina flag was before the Civil War?

As QC mentioned, this is the state flag of South Carolina - which begs the question why the conf. battle flag is/was on government buildings

Originally Posted by quimbian corholla

Developed in 1775 and became official in 1861

^ Seems Islamic to me....the crescent moon and a palm tree.

No, I didn't read the thread, PH. My apologies.