Thread: How dangerous is Vladimir Putin?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I think we are living in his empty head rent-free.

No doubt about it . . .

sabang-style of living it large

West is forced to negotiate with Russia after three months of latter’s intervention in Ukraine to get rid of Ukronazis and creeping NATO’s footsteps on its doors.

Frankly, there is no option left for West.

It can’t force a showdown with Russia despite billions of aids and arms supply to Kiev for if it does, Vladimir Putin would turn the oil and gas taps dry to Europe which would plunge the Old Continent into darkness, cars into garages, transport mode on to rusting tracks etc.

It would force the manufacturing giants like BMW or Bayer to either shut down or locate themselves out of Europe, either way causing a massive unemployment and public unrest which would force regime changes from Berlin to Paris to Geneva, you name it.

Europe is in no position to get rid of Russia’s energy supplies. The typical diesel blend which Russia provides and for which Europe’s processing units are accordingly oriented, can’t be replaced overnight.

Even if the West tries, and it is trying, the Middle East like Qatar or Oman can’t make up for the deficit of nearly 40% of Europe’s energy need if Russia was to turn off the tap tomorrow.

Besides, why would Middle East turn its back on its traditional customers and shift to new European clients for oversupply of oil and gas comes with its own cost: What if traditional customer shift en masse to Russia in the meantime?

And that’s not all. Where are the shipping tankers or logistics of transportation and storage, not to say the new skilled workers—and technology—which would be required to make the Russia-minus energy workable for the Europeans?

As it is, the cost of energy has risen three-fold in Europe which continues to buy oil from Grazprom to the tune of $200 million per day, and that too in Rubles, the currency they wished to destroy in baiting the Russian bear on Ukraine.

Now Rubles is doing better than ever, after initially dropping to pennies against the US dollars—it has jumped 40% against Dollar since January— and the pain of economic sanctions are actually beginning to be felt in the Western capitals. Inflation is going through the roof and popular unrest is brewing.

Energy prices in the EU and America have spiked to 40-year highs; recession is staring in eye; supply lines have sunk, food shortages are stark and gas-oil prices are going through the roof.

Meanwhile, the current-account surplus for Russia this year could be at $250 billion which would be more than double the $120 billion measured in 2021. From gas sales alone, Russia could earn a record $100 billion from European countries in 2022 as energy prices have risen painfully high and its gas sales would be almost twice as much as last year. And all this when one is not taking into account the profits from the sale of other Russian commodities, such as oil, coal and other minerals.

What Putin Wants

And this situation isn’t going to change at least till the year-end by when one Mr Putin would hold all the cards and press with his long-standing demand of NATO going back to its 1997 level.

That was the year when West had repeatedly assured a post-Soviet Union Russia that NATO wouldn’t expand eastwards but completely did otherwise to the extent that out of the 27 European Union (EU) states, 21 are in NATO today.

Russia has made no secret of what it wants: That NATO returns to its 1997 levels and a collective security is in place for nations of the European continent.

Instead, West chose to bait Russia on Ukraine with constant needling while the Moscow kept repeating it would intervene militarily which it did. Put in Russia’s shoes, would the United State allow its neighbourhood of Cuba, Nicaragua etc armed to the teeth with nuclear-missile launchpads? NO.

That’s why I said West is now looking for a settlement and call for negotiations would now make headlines in the mainstream media, captive as it is to its Western masters.

The truth is, sanctions have failed, and instead of Rubles it’s the Dollars which is losing its hegemony world over.

Countries are now trading in mutual currencies and before the year is out, Russia would have floated a commodity-based exchange currency system which would resonate around the world.

The US dollars, supported by multilateral global institutions, would be bypassed by the world for two reasons: One, why trust a currency which already is in a kind of debt it could not repay; and Two, who is to trust a Superpower which one fine morning could seize your assets and reserves with the Western banks?

The truth remains that the Western sanctions have failed; Russia’s Rubles is in pink health; and Ukraine has disintegrated. There is no sign of a popular rising in Moscow which the West had hoped for in getting rid of Mr Putin. Indeed, the Russian strongman holds all the aces presently.

The only face-saving measure, as I said, is for the West to negotiate for a settlement between Kiev and Moscow. But they have missed the moment. Russia is winning the war and there’s no way West could stop it. That’s the ugly truth.

Given how Ukraine-2 could crop up on Russia’s border in a decade’s time, Russia wouldn’t settle for anything less than NATO back to 1997 levels. As for the territories ceded in form of Crimea, Donbass and those with access to Black Sea, Ukraine can do little but accept that it has been reduced to a strip of land.

It has been a disaster all the way for them. And the West.

Putin holds all the aces in a proxy war, gone horribly wrong for West – Newsbred | what must be said

Originally Posted by panama hat

No doubt about it . . .

sabang-style of living it large

Just imagine he's having a "great time" by sitting there on his computer telling his angry boyfriend "hang on, I just have to post this one because they're all laughing at me".

Villa sab is not exactly new- Show us yer view Except to the Walter Mitty's.


Oh Dear-

Have they considered that, maybe, the world is way bigger than the US and Europe, and the rest of the world is actually just tired of their BS?

Have they considered that, maybe, the world is way bigger than the US and Europe, and the rest of the world is actually just tired of their BS? : NewsWithJingjing


Get the idea your clamorous echo chamber may be diminishing?

Poor old hoohoo hasn't got a fucking clue what goes in the world outside his little propaganda websites.

CAIRO – 15 June 2022: Egyptian Minister of Petroleum Tarek El-Molla and Israel's Minister of Energy Karin Elharar signed an agreement on Wednesday on natural gas delivery to the European Union (EU) from the East Med region, according to media reports.
The agreement was signed during the ministerial meeting of the East Med Gas Forum (EMGF).
“With this EU-Egypt-Israel agreement we will work on the stable delivery of natural gas to the EU from the East Med region,” Ursula von der Leyen, President of the EU Commission tweeted on Wednesday.

Egypt, Israel, EU sign agreement on natural gas delivery to EU from East Med region - EgyptToday

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Just imagine he's having a "great time" by sitting there on his computer telling his angry boyfriend "hang on, I just have to post this one because they're all laughing at me".

Now just imagine if he was in 'Thailand', in 'his' house with 'his friend' . . . some old geezer in shorts. Well, a seaman for many years . . .

Villa sab is not exactly new- Show us yer view

Literally thousands of posts while he is supposed to be in Thailand on vacation . . . livin' it large, eh sabang.


I'm in the Maldives at the moment, in my house . . . and I'm not posting on the TD forum at all

Ah yes, good old Walter Mitty luxing it in his Maldives mansion again. How was the private jet ride, loser?

Originally Posted by panama hat

I'm in the Maldives at the moment, in my house . . . and I'm not posting on the TD forum at all

Actually I think you'll find that's mine, and I am there now with lots of "friends".

Having a "great time".

Telephone conversation with President of China Xi Jinping

Vladimir Putin had a telephone conversation with President of the People's Republic of China Xi Jinping during which the two leaders had an in-depth exchange of views on a wide range of issues on the bilateral and international agendas.

June 15, 2022 16:00

"The presidents stated that Russian-Chinese relations were at an all-time high and are constantly improving. They reaffirmed their commitment to consistently deepen the comprehensive partnership and strategic interaction in all areas.

The current state of and prospects for trade and economic cooperation, the volume of which is expected to reach record high levels in 2022, were reviewed in detail. It was agreed to expand cooperation in energy, finance, the manufacturing industry, transport and other areas, taking into account the global economic situation that has become more complicated due to the illegitimate sanctions policy pursued by the West. The further development of military and defence ties was touched upon as well.

During the discussion of the situation in the international arena, it was emphasised that Russia and China, as before, have overlapping or very close positions, consistently uphold the fundamental principles of international law, seek to build a truly multipolar and fair system of international relations. The parties confirmed their mutual commitment to improve coordination and mutual support in various multilateral formats, including at the UN. The importance of cooperation within the SCO and BRICS was underscored, in particular, in the context of the upcoming BRICS summit to be hosted by the Chinese presidency on June 23–24.

Vladimir Putin laid out his principled assessment of the situation in Ukraine and the tasks being tackled during the special military operation. The President of China noted the legitimacy of Russia’s actions to protect fundamental national interests in the face of challenges to its security created by external forces.
It was agreed to continue bilateral contacts both at the heads of state level and through various ministries and agencies.

The conversation was held in a traditionally warm and friendly atmosphere."

Telephone conversation with President of China Xi Jinping • President of Russia

"How the cancer?"

"Not dead yet"

"Shame, oh I mean that good news".

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Actually I think you'll find that's mine, and I am there now with lots of "friends".

Having a "great time".

Sorry, I forgot the 'friends' bit . . .

Originally Posted by OhOh

Vladimir Putin had a telephone conversation with President of the People's Republic of China Xi Jinping during which the two leaders had an in-depth exchange of views on what the best torture techniques area

Well done the cloggies.

ON JUNE 16, THE Dutch General Intelligence and Security Service (AIVD) announced that it prevented a Russian military intelligence officer from gaining access as an intern to the International Criminal Court (ICC) in The Hague. The ICC is of interest to the GRU because it investigates possible war crimes committed by Russia in the Russo-Georgian War of 2008 and more recently in Ukraine.
The GRU officer reportedly traveled from Brazil to Schiphol Airport in Amsterdam in April 2022, using a Brazilian cover identity, making him a so-called “illegal”. This means the intelligence operative was not formally associated with a Russian diplomatic facility. He allegedly planned to start an internship with the ICC, which would have given him access to the ICC’s building and systems. This could have enabled the GRU to collect intelligence, spot and recruit sources, and possibly influence criminal proceedings inside the ICC.

Dutch intelligence disrupts Russian effort to infiltrate International Criminal Court | intelNews.org

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Well done the cloggies.

Up come the following:

1) It's not true
2) It's a CIA cover op
3) His name was not Vladimir Boris Normaov . . . it really was Joao Rohas - lies, lies and lies.
4) The US has spies everywhere so why can't Russia have theirs

Data suggests 15,000 millionaires trying to leave Russia – UK ministry


Data suggests thousands of millionaires are trying to leave Russia, and a continued exodus of its business and oligarch community will likely exacerbate the war’s long-term damage to its economy, Britain’s defence ministry said on Friday.


“Migration applications suggest that 15,000 Russian millionaires are likely already attempting to leave,” the ministry said.


On the war front, Russia is likely trying to regain momentum in attempts to surround the Sievierodonetsk pocket from the south, it said.


Ukrainian officials have said their troops were holding out against massive Russian bombardment in the eastern city, and described new progress in a counteroffensive in the south.


Data suggests 15,000 millionaires trying to leave Russia – UK ministry | Thai PBS World : The latest Thai news in English, News Headlines, World News and News Broadcasts in both Thai and English. We bring Thailand to the world

Originally Posted by misskit

Data suggests 15,000 millionaires trying to leave Russia – UK ministry


Data suggests thousands of millionaires are trying to leave Russia, and a continued exodus of its business and oligarch community will likely exacerbate the war’s long-term damage to its economy, Britain’s defence ministry said on Friday.


“Migration applications suggest that 15,000 Russian millionaires are likely already attempting to leave,” the ministry said.

Luckily for the rest of the western world they can't gain access . . . so these scum can go live in Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Belorus, Turkmenistan etc... Their names are on every immigration database

Originally Posted by panama hat

Luckily for the rest of the western world they can't gain access . . . so these scum can go live in Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Belorus, Turkmenistan etc...

Many of them have gone to Georgia, and the rents in Tbilisi have skyrocketed.

Oh, my no-life stalker is also a Liar.