How dangerous is Vladimir Putin?

**harrybarracuda** · 10-04-2021, 12:22 AM

Originally Posted by sabang

Care to do a comparison- how many people have been killed by Russia vs the USA during the Yeltsin era? I guess this calls for another childish cartoon!

Go hose down Mustafas camels 'arryboy. You are at least better at that than geopolitics.

A feeble attempt at avoiding the point. At least you've proven my point about you being retarded.

Klondick's place as forum fuckwit is under serious threat with you posting.

**Backspin** · 10-04-2021, 01:43 AM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Small point. Australia, the USA, the UK etc. do not forbid protests against unwanted leaders. They don't censor unpopular opinions in the news media - or even control all the media. They don't poison, beat, jail or kill those who oppose them. They don't rig elections. They don't cram the judiciary with lackies so that they can pass legislation that makes them immune to crime or being voted out.

Dictators do all of these things, Putin included.

Why do idiots like you always try and gloss over this behaviour of all dictators? Are you really that retarded?

Wbat a load of absolute nonsense. Russia has legit protests all the time. The latest one was the pension reform protest. There are areas where you are permitted to protest and that's what they did.

Navalny intensionally protest in areas that you can't protest in. Just so it causes a stir so you can get your picture taken in the Western media.

**Saint Willy** · 10-04-2021, 04:13 AM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

A feeble attempt at avoiding the point. At least you've proven my point about you being retarded.

Klondick's place as forum fuckwit is under serious threat with you posting.

backspin thought that was a challenge...

**sabang** · 10-04-2021, 06:14 AM

Keep on drinking that Koolaid boyz. Putin remains in power, longer than any western leader, with a domestic popularity rating higher than any western leader, and faces no tangible threat to his grip on power beyond human mortality. Really sucks dunnit, must really hurt to be You.

Why do other people stubbornly refuse to think the way 'We' are spoonfed to think, believe what 'We' are compliantly told to believe. Don't they slurp from the same spoon, or drink the same Koolaid??

Anyone would think that there is more to this world than the plain vanilla western consensus.

**panama hat** · 10-04-2021, 06:17 AM

Originally Posted by sabang

Care to do a comparison- how many people have been killed by Russia vs the USA during the Yeltsin era? I guess this calls for another childish cartoon!

Thankfully the topic is Vladimir Putin, so my 'childish cartoon' was apropos. Your addition of an anti-American 'childish cartoon' is in the wrong thread . . . and this is where you go wrong about this.

No-one would whine and complain and whinge about that in a thread about the US war machine or human rights - you'd have most posters agreeing with you, most American posters as well.

The difference is that you whine and complain and whinge about it here . . . Klongdick, OhNo and Skidderz are as one-sided in their condemnation and critique of one side while being deflective/apologist/whataboutist/etc.. about China/Russia. You've added yourself to that list.

Your wanting to do a comparison - go for it. Will you also do a comparison of human rights in Russia/China if the topic were about Switzerland? No.

That's the problem here

**sabang** · 10-04-2021, 06:41 AM

Oh I see. So when America comes a knockin' with it's standard message of "The West is the best. Give in, and let us do the rest", a thinking person in another country, living under a different political system, with a different history and cultural heritage, and quite probably at a different stage of development, must never actually Think, and Compare, right? Now that would be Heresy.

such things as-
1/ How have living standards for the average citizen improved under my current political system compared to the average American, in the current century?
2/ How has that 'Freedom n Democracy' been working out for the people of Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya?
3/ How many people has my country killed, compared to the USA? How many of our young men have died invading foreign countries, compared to the US?
4/ How many people in my country are incarcerated, compared to the USA?
5/ How politically stable is my country, compared to the US these days? how socially stable?
6/ a russki might even have the temerity to think, how is life under Putin, compared to Americas old sweetheart Yeltsin?

No, can't be Thinking like that, can we? That would be Heresy. Drink the Koolaid. Just give in, and let us do the rest.

Like i have repeatedly said- Good housekeeping starts at Home. The US is hardly in a position to point the bone. neither are you. suggest you change your drink.

**global** · 10-04-2021, 07:38 AM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

A feeble attempt at avoiding the point. At least you've proven my point about you being retarded.

Klondick's place as forum fuckwit is under serious threat with you posting.

Watch this or this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-CptNNGpag&list=LL&index=9

this is all because of Putin.... yup we all know that now. Get a grip of yourself and learn the truth. You watching to much MSNBC I know it can brain wash you ... I'm sorry for you.

**panama hat** · 10-04-2021, 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by sabang

Oh I see.

No, you don't. You're far too defensive for that.

Putin Thread: Many - bad Putin. Few (OhNo, Klongdick, sabang, Skidmark): Good Putin, Bad USA

USA Thread: Most - Bad USA. None: Good USA. Few: Good Russia/China (OhNo, Klongdick, sabang, Skidmark)

**panama hat** · 10-04-2021, 09:06 AM

Originally Posted by sabang

Oh I see.

No, you don't. Putin Thread.

Originally Posted by sabang

suggest you change your drink.

From? To?

(Had a tooth pulled last week-end - no alcohol while it heals)

**sabang** · 10-04-2021, 09:31 AM

Good/ Bad. America = Good, anyone that America doesn't like = Bad. Drink the Koolaid, resistance is futile. You are an assimilated part of the Collective. Independent thought and opinion is Heresy.

Wanna know what I really think? they're all bad really. I basically judge them by the job they are doing for their citizens, as according to those citizens. I also judge them according to the number of people they slaughter. Actions speak louder than words, and politicians are Liars.

America hardly shines in either regard, in the current era. Try walking the walk amerka (& pet mouthpieces), not just talking the talk. Your lies have already been exposed for all to see. Good housekeeping starts at Home.

**Klondyke** · 10-04-2021, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by panama hat

USA Thread: Most - Bad USA. None: Good USA

Obviously, a wrong reading and comprehension what's that about (despite his genital proficiency of the English language - repeatedly given us to be admired...)

"USA Thread?" just to correct the lies by some esteemed members here disseminated (how sensitive we are here about lies, aren't we?) and calling the things by their right names, no Orwellian double speak...

**sabang** · 10-04-2021, 09:57 AM

Just a question, if America is being 'Bad' in your opinion, why do so many of you still swallow it's lies like good little guppies? Sure beats me.

**panama hat** · 10-04-2021, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by sabang

Just a question, if America is being 'Bad' in your opinion, why do so many of you still swallow it's lies like good little guppies?

Why would you think 'so many of 'you' still swallow' anything like that? An opinion is just that - an opinion.

Again, the big difference between you/klondick/OhNo/Skidmark and many others here is you four are very happy to criticise anything western/American yet are loathe to afford the same to China and Russia.
Most others are happy to criticise the US/their own country as well as Chin and Russia

Originally Posted by sabang

Sure beats me.

What also still beats you and keeps on beating you is that this is a Putin thread

**russellsimpson** · 10-04-2021, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by TheRealKW

backspin thought that was a challenge...

More like you thought it was a challenge dork.

The below comments pretty much sums things up, you're a definite snivelling leg humper Mr. Runt of the Litter.

**russellsimpson** · 10-04-2021, 11:24 AM

double post

**OhOh** · 10-04-2021, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Small point. Australia, the USA, the UK etc. do not forbid protests against unwanted leaders. They don't censor unpopular opinions in the news media - or even control all the media. They don't poison, beat, jail or kill those who oppose them. They don't rig elections. They don't cram the judiciary with lackies so that they can pass legislation that makes them immune to crime or being voted out.

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**harrybarracuda** · 10-04-2021, 03:20 PM

Another one of Putin's enemies gets bumped off.

Russian businessman Glushkov was strangled in 2018, British coroner rules

LONDON (Reuters) - Russian businessman Nikolai Glushkov, who was found dead in 2018, was strangled in his home in southwest London by an unidentified person, a British coroner has ruled, the BBC reported.
Russian businessman Glushkov was strangled in 2018, British coroner rules

**Klondyke** · 10-04-2021, 05:34 PM

Mr Glushkov fled Russia after being accused of fraud during his time as deputy director of the Aeroflot airline, and was granted political asylum in the UK in 2010.

In 2017, during a trial in absentia, he was sentenced to eight years by a Russian court after being convicted of stealing £87m from the airline.

Mr Glushkov, 68, had been due to attend the Commercial Court in London to defend himself on 12 March, the day his body was discovered by his daughter, Natalia.

His death came a week after the Novichok poisoning in Salisbury of the Russian former double agent Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia.

So what happened to the £87m of the poor political asylum applicant?

His death by strangulation was very well known in the time of the famous poisoning of father and daughter Skripals not far away. And I was wondering why no conspiracy theory had been promulgated in that time, his death had foamed quietly away. All the attention was given to Skripals only...

(BTW, where are they nowadays? Has the beautiful daughter been already allowed to speak with her auntie in Moscow?)

**Backspin** · 11-04-2021, 03:28 AM

Originally Posted by sabang

Just a question, if America is being 'Bad' in your opinion, why do so many of you still swallow it's lies like good little guppies? Sure beats me.

They don't look beneath the surface. They really do believe most of it. They really do believe that Assad gassed his own people at the most inopportune times. They really believe that 2 Russian spies flew direct via Aeroflot to the UK to knock off some old man and his daughter with a uniquely Russian chemical that they spilled all over the place.

It takes a bit of a leap to realize that your govt at the highest level is blatantly lying to your face. I used to support the USA benevolent view too.

**Backspin** · 11-04-2021, 03:44 AM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Another one of Putin's enemies gets bumped off.

And you think its as simple as that. Just amazing. Most of these guys that fled Russia at the same time and took asylum in the UK, are criminals. Some of them became assets of western intelligence agencies. In the case of Berezovsky, he was in talks with Putin to come back and make up. And then he was mysteriously killed. He made too close of friends in the western intel agencies so they didn't allow him to go back.

In 1999, he was accused of fraud, embezzlement and money laundering. In 2004, he was sentenced to three years and three months in prison. In 2010, he fled to the UK, where he was granted political asylum. In 2017, a Moscow court reviewed his case and he was sentenced to eight years in prison in absentia for stealing as much as $123 million from Aeroflot in the 1990s.

His close associate, Berezovsky, was also found guilty in several high-profile fraud and embezzlement cases. The tycoon, who was once one of Russia’s richest people, fled Russia in 2000, as he faced criminal charges. In 2013, Berezovsky was found dead in his home in the UK, apparently after committing suicide.

Berezovsky’s Daughter: British Intelligence Eliminated My Father To Prevent Him Leaking

**Klondyke** · 11-04-2021, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Russian businessman Glushkov was strangled in 2018, British coroner rules
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Glushkov was also an associate of late Russian tycoon Boris Berezovsky, who was found dead in March 2013 with a scarf tied around his neck in the bathroom of a luxury mansion west of London.

Boris Berezovsky was very active, a.o.:

Role in Chechen conflict

High Court case against Abramovich
In 2011, Berezovsky brought a civil case against Roman Abramovich in the High Court of Justice in London, accusing Abramovich of blackmail, breach of trust and breach of contract, and seeking over £3 billion in damages.[19] This became the largest civil court case in British legal history.[147]

Berezovsky conducted business with Neil Bush, the younger brother of the US President George W. Bush.

Neil Bush - Wikipedia

**OhOh** · 11-04-2021, 11:35 AM

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^
Introduce facts to a TD thread.

**harrybarracuda** · 11-04-2021, 01:12 PM

See, you know what you meant to post.

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**panama hat** · 11-04-2021, 02:39 PM

Excellent

**OhOh** · 13-04-2021, 11:34 PM

EUROPE HAS NOW LOST 44% OF PRODUCTION FROM THIS GIANT NATGAS FIELD

April 10, 2021 by pierce

"Europe just lost a big chunk of production from one of its most critical natural gas fields. And not for any of the usual reasons — technical problems, pipeline constraints, or terrorist disruptions.

These cuts are due to earthquakes.

The development came at the Groningen natgas field in the Netherlands. The largest producing field in western Europe — and one of the world’s top 10 gas fields by size.

Groningen’s massive size has been as issue lately though. With drawdown from the field having caused seismic events in the areas above and surrounding the field.

Such concerns prompted the Dutch government to take action Friday. With the country’s Economics Minister Henk Kamp saying that regulators will reduce Groningen’s permitted output by 11.1% — to 24 billion cubic meters per year (850 billion cubic feet), down from a previous allowance of 27 billion cubic meters.

Minister Kamp also said that the reduced production quota will stay in effect for the next five years. Meaning that Europe has lost a significant slice of its go-to production for the foreseeable future.

This latest production cut continues a dramatic slide in Groningen’s output over the past 18 months. With the Dutch government deciding in early 2015 to cut production from 42.5 billion cubic feet annually to 39 billion cubic feet — and then further reducing the quota to 33 billion cubic feet just a few months later.

The further cuts announced Friday come after high-level Dutch regulatory body the Council of State ordered the government to take more action in protecting the public. With Minister Kamp saying that the new production cap would “reduce safety risks to Groningen’s residents and damage to buildings.”

The Minister did say that production could be increased above the quota in the event of exceptionally cold weather or other instances of strict necessity. But overall it appears that Groningen’s output is going to be 44% lower than it was less than two years ago — which could put upward pressure on prices in the European market.

That could have a number of knock-on effects. Including attracting more liquefied natural gas (LNG) to Europe — with countries here having a lot of under-used import capacity right now. Watch for the effects of the Dutch shut-in on prices — and structural changes in this market as a result."

EUROPE HAS NOW LOST 44% OF PRODUCTION FROM THIS GIANT NATGAS FIELD - Pierce Points

Problems, problems.

Who do you have to solve them?

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Gazprom increases gas export to France 1.5-fold year-to-date

Reserves in the country’s underground storage facilities have dropped below 30%

16 Feb, 15:50

"Gas export to France by Gazprom has increased by almost 1.5-fold since the beginning of the year, whereas reserves in the country’s underground storage facilities have dropped below 30%, Russia’s top gas producer said in a statement on Tuesday.

"The demand for natural gas in European countries keeps growing amid the cold winter, whereas reserves in European underground storage facilities - contracting. According to the data provided by Gas Infrastructure Europe, gas reserves in France’s underground storage facilities have decreased below 30%," Gazprom said.

The company said last week that Germany increased purchases of the Russian gas by 47.8% in first ten days of February compared with the same period last year, adding that the cold winter pushes up the gas demand in Europe.

Gas export by Gazprom to non-CIS countries went up by 36.5% (or by 7.4 bln cubic meters) to 27.5 bln cubic meters from January 1 to February 15, the holding said earlier.

Particularly, purchases were increased by such large consumers of the Russian gas as:

Germany (by 35.5%),

Turkey (by 30.5%),

Italy (by 112.7%),

France (by 43.7%),

Poland (by 63.7%),

and the Netherlands (by 8.4%)."

Gazprom increases gas export to France 1.5-fold year-to-date - Business & Economy - TASS

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