Thread: How dangerous is Vladimir Putin?

Putin yesterday in his Q&A on armament - by a joke:

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Gorbachev was promised NATO would not expand east

Gorbachev was foolish enough not to get the promisses signed.

Unlike 50 years earlier when UK and France got in Munich a document signed by Hitler that he will be happy just with a portion of Czechoslovakia, so UK and FR do not need to worry about a war.


How proud was UK's PM Neville Chamberlain showing his signed copy...




Nevertheless, promises in politics do not need to be respected, signed or not signed...

I totally agree today's politics are even worst. We cannot trust any government in that respect. Especially the rogue shadow government. We are doomed, it will take a miracle to clime out of this and have major changes with out shedding any blood. The world is on fire with wars and manipulation of changing governments. Pushing agendas down our throat and feeding us with lies.

Originally Posted by global

Especially the rogue shadow government

Come on spit it out who are these ghosts? Most governments are elected in some manner, is it not the voters who are to blame?

Preparing on Cold (Icy) War?




Published time: 19 Jan, 2018 18:15
Putin braves icy water for traditional Epiphany dip
President Vladimir Putin waded into a frozen lake in a traditional celebration of Epiphany. The annual baptism is a long-running staple of the Orthodox Church, with believers across Russia taking the midwinter dip.

https://www.rt.com/in-motion/416443-...-epiphany-dip/

Those Sturgeons are nifty buggers.

It's sanctions, stupid...



US receives Russian LNG shipment, 2nd tanker reported on its way
Jan 29, 2018

A French vessel carrying Russian liquefied natural gas docked in Boston on Sunday. Another tanker is reportedly on its way, despite Washington’s sanctions against Moscow and amid grand plans of conquering Europe’s gas market.

The tanker named Gaselys, owned by French energy company Engie, arrived in Boston on Sunday morning, the US Coast Guard confirmed to Sputnik. “As far as I know, there are no problems,” a spokesman said. The vessel is loaded with gas originating from Russia’s Yamal LNG plant at the British port of Isle of Grain from which it headed to Everett, an American terminal near Boston.

The US sanctions, imposed in particular against Russia’s largest non-state gas producer Novatek – which happens to be Yamal LNG’s main shareholder – does not seem to hinder business this time. France’s Total, China National Petroleum Corporation and the Silk Road Fund hold the remaining 49.9 percent of shares in the project, located in the Russian Arctic.

https://www.rt.com/business/417237-r...as-arrived-us/

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US forcing Europe to abandon Russian gas & buy more expensive American LNG - Lavrov
Published time: 15 Jan, 2018
https://www.rt.com/business/415936-u...eam-europeans/

Netanyahu & Putin to discuss better coordination on Syria & Iran in Moscow
28 Jan, 2018

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is to meet Russian President Vladimir Putin in Moscow on Monday to discuss ways to strengthen coordination between Russian and Israeli air forces, so as to avoid confrontation in Syria.

Netanyahu’s visit to Russia is scheduled to last only five hours. According to the Kremlin, the two leaders plan to discuss“Russian-Israeli cooperation in trade, economic, cultural and humanitarian areas as well as some pressing international and regional issues, including the situation in the Middle East and in Syria.”

According to the Jerusalem Post, the Israeli prime minister is also set to discuss Iran’s involvement in Syria.

Earlier this month Israel launched three attacks on military targets in Syria, using jets and ground-to-ground missiles, the Syrian army reported. Damascus also claimed that it has shot down one Israeli jet and one missile. “We have a longstanding policy to prevent the transfer of game-changing weapons to Hezbollah in Syrian territory. This policy has not changed. We back it up, if necessary, with action,” Netanyahu said at an event with NATO officials in Jerusalem, as quoted by the Times of Israel.

https://www.rt.com/news/417221-netan...oscow-meeting/

Putin holds all the cards with his gas,

Dutch foreign minister quits after lying about Putin meeting
Feb 13, 2018

AMSTERDAM (Reuters) - Dutch Foreign Minister Halbe Zijlstra resigned on Tuesday after admitting that he had lied about attending a meeting in 2006 at which he said Russian President Vladimir Putin had outlined a strategy for building a greater Russia.

The incident has embarrassed Prime Minister Mark Rutte’s four-party coalition government, which has a precarious parliamentary majority of just one seat.

It risks undermining Dutch foreign policy at a time when diplomatic ties between the Netherlands and Russia have hit a low point, largely over the 2014 downing of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 over Ukraine, allegedly by pro-Russian separatists.

Zijlstra, visibly emotional as he took the floor during a parliamentary debate convened to discuss his behavior, said he had decided to tender his resignation to the king because the situation risked harming the work of the Foreign Ministry.

“We live in a country where the truth matters. That’s why I see no other option than to resign,” said Zijlstra, who had held the job for less than four months. “The office (of foreign minister) must be above all doubt, both at home and abroad.”

Zijlstra admitted on Monday that he had lied in 2016 when he said he had attended a meeting a decade earlier at which Putin reportedly spoke of plans for regional expansion.

He acknowledged he was not at the meeting, but insisted he had heard about Putin’s remarks from a reliable source he needed to protect.

The Russian Embassy said in a statement that Zijlstra’s allegations “do not hold up against any criticism and are only intended to spread false perceptions of Russia’s intentions”.

“Russia is being blamed for disseminating disinformation,” Moscow’s embassy in The Hague said in a statement.

“Dutch officials are constantly making such unfounded statements... Isn’t this an example of fake news directed against our country?”

Zijlstra had been due to travel to Moscow for a previously scheduled meeting with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov on Wednesday. That meeting was canceled, the Russian Foreign Ministry said.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-n...-idUSKBN1FX1FG

Dutch FM resigns after admitting lie about meeting Putin
Published time: 13 Feb, 2018

Dutch Foreign Minister Halbe Zijlstra has resigned, a day after he admitted lying about overhearing Russia’s President Vladimir Putin. In 2016 Zijlstra alleged Putin had in 2006 expressed ambitions to create a “Greater Russia.”
The official admitted that his credibility had been damaged by the ongoing scandal to such an extent that his position had become untenable.

Halbe Zijlstra announced his resignation in an emotional speech to the House of Representatives. Zijlstra described the “Greater Russia” affair as the “biggest mistake” in his political career, adding that the country deserves a Foreign Minister who is beyond reproach.

The scandal has its roots in 2016, when Zijlstra claimed at a party conference that he had overheard the Russian leader Vladimir Putin talking about his plans to create a “Greater Russia” at a gathering of businessmen in 2006, at which time Zijlstra was working for the Shell oil company. The official claimed that he heard Putin talk about a “Great Russia” which included “Russia, Belarus, Ukraine and the Baltic states,” while “Kazakhstan was nice to have” as well.

The official’s story was challenged by the Volkskrant newspaper, which discovered that despite Zijlstra having been part of Shell’s delegation he was in fact not present at the business meeting in question. Following the revelation the official acknowledged having lied, claiming that he did so in order to protect the actual source, whom he declined to name. He insisted, however, that the whole story about Putin’s alleged plans for “Greater Russia” was true.

The scandal has triggered a storm of Twitter mockery under the hashtags #LyingDutchman and #HalbeWasErbij (Halbe Was There), featuring doctored photos of some historic events and places the official might have also “attended” personally.





https://www.rt.com/news/418689-dutch-quits-putin-lie/

No doubt the rest of the Dutch Government new nothing Any other politicians going to resign?

No doubt none of the Shell people who were there are going to upset the gravy train.

Although the Dutch FM Halbe Zijlstra has lied, for the his PM Mark Rutte he is still "credible"...

(Wondering why "recognized" MSM are not much reporting about this matter - unlike about other matters...)

You mean the plane crash in Ukraine don't you.

Originally Posted by OhOh

You mean the plane crash in Ukraine don't you.

Do you mean the plane that was shot down by Russian separatists with a Russian supplied missile?

Oh, that one.

^
proof or press?

Originally Posted by CaptainNemo

^
proof or press?

I take it you never read the initial investigation report then.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I take it you never read the initial investigation report then.

let me guess, you got to see the forensic on that too

what a little fraud you make, Dr Harry

Originally Posted by OhOh

You mean the plane crash in Ukraine don't you.

I mean e.g. Polonium Litvinenko, (a favorite topic of Harry), and similar...

Originally Posted by Klondyke

I mean e.g. Polonium Litvinenko, (a favorite topic of Harry), and similar...

Klondyke. It's like Jeff lite.

Originally Posted by OhOh

You are referring to the Dutch report. The same country whose minister has been sacked for lying.

Yes that one.

The same country whose gold bullion was repatriated quickly, whilst other countries were waiting, for ameristan to ship previously requested bullion.

Yes that one.