Thread: How dangerous is Vladimir Putin?

^ Yep and Moscow is carpet bombing everyone but IS.

Originally Posted by bsnub

^ Yep and Moscow is carpet bombing everyone but IS.

Not only that but apparently a lot of its bombs are duds.

Which is a plentiful supply of high grade explosives to both rebels and extremists.

Originally Posted by OhOh

What an unexceptional, irresponsible world they play in.

completely, and the US seems to be quite content to be at the origin of the whole mess

Bin Laden, the Grand Master, would be proud. And everything is happening as he predicted. In a few hundred years, they will call him Jesus.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Not only that but apparently a lot of its bombs are duds.

Old Soviet era tech no doubt. The Russian have never had a clue about logistics and it seems that their little air campaign is grinding to a halt as most of their planes are grounded because they have broken down and have not been repaired. Combat ineffective.

Maybe they can beg the US to fly in some decent mechanics and spare parts.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Not only that but apparently a lot of its bombs are duds.

Old Soviet era tech no doubt. The Russian have never had a clue about logistics and it seems that their little air campaign is grinding to a halt as most of their planes are grounded because they have broken down and have not been repaired. Combat ineffective.

Maybe they can beg the US to fly in some decent mechanics and spare parts.

whaoo, what kind of Pentagon propaganda are you reading these days ? are you also in conspiracy theories ?

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

whaoo, what kind of Pentagon propaganda are you reading these days ?

Maybe you should take the time to read the articles posted on some of these threads. Russian sorties have dropped off because of the fact that their planes are broken down. It does not take a rocket scientist to figure it out.

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

are you also in conspiracy theories ?

Nope I will defer that to simpletons like you and Uhdoh.

Originally Posted by OhOh

It seems the Turkish air force has been bombing the recipients of the American weapons drop in NW Syria. One NATO country delivering weapons and another NATO country bombing them. Killing a few expensively crusader coalition trained "moderate" terrorists no doubt. No wedding parties or hospitals though.



What an unexceptional, irresponsible world they play in.

Regardless of the wishy washy rhetoric [and contradictions] being displayed - it's all about retaining empire and control.

Originally Posted by thaimeme

it's all about retaining empire and control.

And a plate of nachos.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Old Soviet era tech no doubt. The Russian have never had a clue about logistics and it seems that their little air campaign is grinding to a halt as most of their planes are grounded because they have broken down and have not been repaired. Combat ineffective.
Maybe they can beg the US to fly in some decent mechanics and spare parts.

Same problems American military had to learn to cope with over there. It took awhile and a lot of money in worn out equipment. I wonder it Russia has the staying power (money) to carry on for the time it will take to save Assad.

Originally Posted by MrG

Originally Posted by bsnub

Old Soviet era tech no doubt. The Russian have never had a clue about logistics and it seems that their little air campaign is grinding to a halt as most of their planes are grounded because they have broken down and have not been repaired. Combat ineffective.
Maybe they can beg the US to fly in some decent mechanics and spare parts.

Same problems American military had to learn to cope with over there. It took awhile and a lot of money in worn out equipment. I wonder it Russia has the staying power (money) to carry on for the time it will take to save Assad.

Well they're dropping $4M a day apparently, which is affordable for the time being.

(Probably more than that if Putin is skimming off the top).

Putin simply needs to bomb SA so they get the message to stop financing IS

actually we should bomb the mecca, the whole things has become a security hazzard for the innocent pilgrims, thanks to Saudis greeds.

^
Not my statement. I was referring to the susceptability of equipment to the nature of the area (lotsa sand).

sorry, my error with the quote function.. now corrected
I knew it was snub, just the kind of dumb unsubstantiated crap that is his trademark

Originally Posted by bsnub

Old Soviet era tech no doubt

poor snubs, he's still got Reds under the bed from the last time around

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

bomb the mecca

. . . you still say you've read the quran several times?

The Mecca. Nice

Originally Posted by Neo

Really..? from which orifice did you extract that nugget of information.?

I do not know why I waste my time with clueless knuckle draggers like you. The Russians have no experience waging wars that are not directly on their own boarders. They lack the skills and experience to wage war in a foreign theater. You can not learn these things from a book it only come from experience. The US is by far and away the master of logistical warfare. That is experience that the Russian can not come close to matching. Your posts clearly show that you do not have a clue as to what you are talking about.

Originally Posted by Neo

poor snubs, he's still got Reds under the bed from the last time around

Sorry pal. The bulk of the Russian planes in Syria are SU-24s and SU-25. Both planes have been around over 40 years. They drop dumb bombs most likely stockpiled since the Soviet days. It is dated Soviet tech.

You really need to learn to not post about things you know nothing about.

Originally Posted by bsnub

The US is by far and away the master of logistical warfare. That is experience that the Russian can not come close to matching.

The Russian airforce, according to most observers, arrived on a Sunday and during the next hours and weeks had hit more terrorists than the crusader coalition hit in a year or longer. They totally surprised the coalition in it's use of Caspian Sea forces , it totally surprised the crusader coalion with it's intelligence, it's plan, it's electronic capabilities and most of all it's results. How many wedding parties hit, how many hospitals hit, how many civilians illegally murdered?

Compared with crusader coalition trained, armed, managed and supplied military it's like chalk and cheese. It has left the crusader coalition in ruins with countries publicly withdrawing forces and others turning a blind eye and ear to the arm-twisting of the Americans. Many many countries questioning their allegiance to the American armed, trained and directed NATO thugs.

The crusader coalition, with better weapons systems , more advanced air bases with permenantly stationed support and service personnel, have been either totally inept at military operations or have been following orders to only appear to be fighting a war whilst the politicians have spread mayhem globally.

How many years did it take the Gulf II forces to "assemble" a strong enough force to take out the "surrendering monkeys" of Saddam armed to the teeth with Soviet weapons?

The President Of The Unexceptional Shit Empire has been publicly "undressed" for the world to see. His impotence when confronted with an enemy who has more than an AK47 and WW2 bombs buried under the road is obvious to all sane people not under the cosh of the CIA/NAA/....... battalions.

No wonder the American Carrier Battle Group in the Gulf left in such a hurry.

Originally Posted by bsnub

The bulk of the Russian planes in Syria are SU-24s and SU-25. Both planes have been around over 40 years. They drop dumb bombs most likely stockpiled since the Soviet days. It is dated Soviet tech.

The bulk, shit it was only a dozen planes with an additional half dozen air superiority fighters, backed with an AA system. Does this mean the worlds countries can fight of even the most heavily armed country in the world with such forces. Some will wonder why they are spending billions, some will wonder why their taxes are being spent on a military system that doesn't deliver shit. Some may even look at the obvious alternatives.

The airframes may have been around and updated, the electronics have, the aiming systems have, the targeting is superior, the desire to reach a conclusive victory, the desire to reach an acceptable political solution is patent. For those that want an end to living with constant global warfare.

But if you don't spend US$35M on an unflyable plane your not in the game? Look how Russian planes have beaten the best of the best in recent war exercises.

Originally Posted by bsnub

The Russians have no experience waging wars that are not directly on their own boarders. They lack the skills and experience to wage war in a foreign theater.

You say that like it's a bad thing...

At least four hospitals have been bombed by fighter jets in north-western Syria since Russia’s intervention in the war began in late September, doctors and international observers claim.
The latest attack, on Tuesday, killed at least 12 people at Sarmin hospital in Idlib province. At least three of the victims were believed to be medical staff. Survivors and witnesses said the hospital was hit by two airstrikes at about 1pm.
Dr Mohamed Tennari, director of Sarmin hospital, said the facility appeared to have been directly targeted and could no longer serve patients on one of the fiercest frontlines in the war.
He said the hospital had been the target of at least 10 other airstrikes earlier in the conflict. Throughout the war, international medical organisations have repeatedly claimed that medical facilities in opposition areas have been systematically targeted.
Physicians for Human Rights said it had documented 313 attacks on medical facilities and the deaths of 679 medical personnel in Syria since protests against the regime of Bashar al-Assad began in March 2011 until the end of August 2015. “Syrian government forces have been responsible for more than 90% of these attacks,” the organisation said. “Each of which constitutes a war crime.”

The latest attack comes less than two weeks after a US attack on a hospital in Kunduz, Afghanistan, which killed at least 22 people – 12 of them medical professionals and the rest patients. That attack was widely condemned and has forced an apology from senior US officials, as well as several international investigations.

Kunduz hospital attack: how a US military ‘mistake’ left 22 dead
Khaled Almilaji, the country director of Medical Relief in Syria, said: “The whole world has to be just as angry as they were with what happened in Afghanistan. Their anger must not just be directed at Bashar, who has been inhuman with us, but also at the Russians, who are just as bad, but more accurate in their targeting.”

Since early October, Russia has closed the airspace over north-western Syria as its air force has embarked on an extensive campaign to target the armed opposition to the Syrian leader. Airstrikes have been especially intense around Hama and Idlib, where some US- and Gulf-backed groups had been making gains against Syrian forces in recent months.

Map - recently attacked Syrian hospitals

Russia’s claims that its attacks have targeted Isis have been at odds with evidence on the ground in areas that have have been heavily bombed but have no Isis presence.
Video shot during the attack shows massive explosions, then dust clouds and screams. “Until now, 12 people have been killed,” said Dr Tennari, adding that another 20 had been injured. Among the dead were two hospital staff, who he named as physiotherapist Hassan Taj al Deen and a security guard Khaldoun Abu Din, both in their 20s.

In mid-March Sarmin hospital was the lead treatment centre in the aftermath of a massive chlorine attack. At the time Syrian regime helicopters dropped barrel bombs filled with chlorine, which left six dead and 50 injured and prompted further claims that Damascus had continued to use banned chemicals as instruments of war. Last month the hospital treated between 5,000-7,000 patients and undertook 100 surgeries, Tennari said.

“I think it was Russian,” he said. “When we were targeted by the Syrian regime airstrikes, it was different from this time.”

The head of the Union of Syrian Medical Relief Organisations, Zedoun al-Zoubi, said Sarmin was one of three medical facilities targeted in the past week. The other two allegedly hit al-Harb and al-Eis clinics in Aleppo province. This month, a field clinic in Kfar Zeita in Idlib and another in Latamneh were also reportedly hit.

Physicians for Human Rights said Hraytan hospital in northern Aleppo had also been hit by Russian jets on 13 October. “Missiles landed directly outside the hospital’s entrance and on nearby buildings, damaging the hospital and injuring three civilians,” it said. “Syrian government forces previously attacked this hospital on September 1.”

“In the last three four weeks the airstrikes have become very accurate, very precise and very intense,” he said. “(In the past) four weeks we know the situation has become really horrible and the number of displaced people are far more than before and we are talking about people who are used to war.”

The director of programmes at Physicians for Human Rights, Widney Brown, said Russia was following in the footsteps of the Assad regime. “These attacks are inexcusable. Claiming that the fight is against terrorists does not give any government the right to tear up the laws of war, which specifically protect health workers and facilities. With these actions, Russia is damaging hospitals, putting patients and medical staff at risk, and depriving civilians of life-saving access to healthcare.”


Four Syrian hospitals bombed since Russian airstrikes began, doctors say | World news | The Guardian

^ But yet no photos or videos are emerging. Strange.