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    We have this official statement from the Russian Foreign Minister:

    22 July 2022 18:09

    Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov’s statement regarding agreements on transporting Ukrainian grain from Black Sea ports and on promoting Russian exports of food and fertilisers, Moscow, July 22, 2022


    "A ceremony for the simultaneous signing of two documents on maritime shipping of Ukrainian grain and the export of Russian agricultural products – Initiatives for the safe transportation of grain and food from the ports of Ukraine and Memorandum of Understanding between the Russian Federation and the UN Secretariat on assisting the promotion of Russian food and fertilisers to international markets, respectively – was held in Istanbul on July 22.

    Initially, both documents were part of the UN Secretary-General’s “package” initiative, which President Putin supported. However, during the course of the talks, Kiev made several attempts to sabotage the bundled approach to the agreement proposed by Antonio Guterres.

    Interestingly, the negotiators from the UN Secretariat promoted a position that did not quite align with the Secretary-General’s original initiative.

    Be that as it may, due to the Russian delegation’s efforts, it was possible to maintain the comprehensive and depoliticised nature of the “package” agreement, thereby ensuring the maximum possible effort to meet the developing countries that are food importers halfway.

    Russia will honour its commitments in this regard. The fact that the United States and its allies are using food in the interests of their geopolitical adventures is unacceptable and inhumane.

    The Memorandum of Understanding on Russian exports of agricultural products was signed by First Deputy Prime Minister Andrey Belousov and UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres.

    The main goal is to ensure transparent and unhindered shipments of Russian food and fertilisers, including the raw materials for their production, to international markets. In particular, this issue is about removing the obstacles that the US and the EU have created in finance, insurance and logistics and exempting these particular products from the restrictive measures imposed on Russia.

    The memorandum will remain valid for three years.

    Russia, Türkiye and Ukraine are the parties to the Ukrainian Grain Transport Initiative, with the United Nations acting in a support role.

    The goal is to promote safe shipping for grain, food and fertiliser exports, including ammonia, from the ports of Odessa, Chernomorsk and Yuzhny.

    The document provides a procedure for the passage of ships, their inspection, monitoring the functioning of the humanitarian corridor, the modality of demining and preventing dangerous incidents by the Istanbul-based special Joint Coordination Centre with representatives from Russia, Ukraine and Türkiye and with support from the UN.

    The initiative is to run for 120 days with an option to renew for a similar period upon agreement of the parties.

    It is gratifying to know that Washington and Brussels have stopped obstructing the efforts to achieve today’s agreements. The signing of the Russia-UN memorandum reiterated the absolutely artificial nature of the West’s attempts to shift the blame for the problems in supplying grain to international markets on Russia.

    We hope the necessary efforts will be made to effectively implement these agreements soon. The UN assistance that is provided in good faith and the constructive approach of the international community, including the Western countries, will be instrumental in this. Given the significant share of Russian and Ukrainian agricultural products in international markets, ensuring uninterrupted shipping meets the pressing objectives of maintaining food security, especially for the developing and least developed countries. All of that should contribute to achieving the Sustainable Development Goals, including the eradication of hunger.

    In closing, I would like to once again thank our Turkish partners, and personally President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, for their contribution to today’s results."


    https://mid.ru/en/foreign_policy/news/1823484/

    Somewhat more clarity from the Russians, IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    We have this official statement from the Russian Foreign Minister:

    22 July 2022 18:09

    Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov’s statement regarding agreements on transporting Ukrainian grain from Black Sea ports and on promoting Russian exports of food and fertilisers, Moscow, July 22, 2022


    "A ceremony for the simultaneous signing of two documents on maritime shipping of Ukrainian grain and the export of Russian agricultural products – Initiatives for the safe transportation of grain and food from the ports of Ukraine and Memorandum of Understanding between the Russian Federation and the UN Secretariat on assisting the promotion of Russian food and fertilisers to international markets, respectively – was held in Istanbul on July 22.

    Initially, both documents were part of the UN Secretary-General’s “package” initiative, which President Putin supported. However, during the course of the talks, Kiev made several attempts to sabotage the bundled approach to the agreement proposed by Antonio Guterres.

    Interestingly, the negotiators from the UN Secretariat promoted a position that did not quite align with the Secretary-General’s original initiative.

    Be that as it may, due to the Russian delegation’s efforts, it was possible to maintain the comprehensive and depoliticised nature of the “package” agreement, thereby ensuring the maximum possible effort to meet the developing countries that are food importers halfway.

    Russia will honour its commitments in this regard. The fact that the United States and its allies are using food in the interests of their geopolitical adventures is unacceptable and inhumane.

    The Memorandum of Understanding on Russian exports of agricultural products was signed by First Deputy Prime Minister Andrey Belousov and UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres.

    The main goal is to ensure transparent and unhindered shipments of Russian food and fertilisers, including the raw materials for their production, to international markets. In particular, this issue is about removing the obstacles that the US and the EU have created in finance, insurance and logistics and exempting these particular products from the restrictive measures imposed on Russia.

    The memorandum will remain valid for three years.

    Russia, Türkiye and Ukraine are the parties to the Ukrainian Grain Transport Initiative, with the United Nations acting in a support role.

    The goal is to promote safe shipping for grain, food and fertiliser exports, including ammonia, from the ports of Odessa, Chernomorsk and Yuzhny.

    The document provides a procedure for the passage of ships, their inspection, monitoring the functioning of the humanitarian corridor, the modality of demining and preventing dangerous incidents by the Istanbul-based special Joint Coordination Centre with representatives from Russia, Ukraine and Türkiye and with support from the UN.

    The initiative is to run for 120 days with an option to renew for a similar period upon agreement of the parties.

    It is gratifying to know that Washington and Brussels have stopped obstructing the efforts to achieve today’s agreements. The signing of the Russia-UN memorandum reiterated the absolutely artificial nature of the West’s attempts to shift the blame for the problems in supplying grain to international markets on Russia.

    We hope the necessary efforts will be made to effectively implement these agreements soon. The UN assistance that is provided in good faith and the constructive approach of the international community, including the Western countries, will be instrumental in this. Given the significant share of Russian and Ukrainian agricultural products in international markets, ensuring uninterrupted shipping meets the pressing objectives of maintaining food security, especially for the developing and least developed countries. All of that should contribute to achieving the Sustainable Development Goals, including the eradication of hunger.

    In closing, I would like to once again thank our Turkish partners, and personally President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, for their contribution to today’s results."


    https://mid.ru/en/foreign_policy/news/1823484/

    Somewhat more clarity from the Russians, IMO.
    In Your Opinion?
    Firstly, you do not and have never had an opinion of your own. You have Vlads or Xis opinion and absolutely nothing else floating around in that empty cranial cavity.
    I doubt you have had an original thought in that one neuron that accidentally fires occasionally, in your life.
    How long before you retire to North Korea? You can write about how misunderstood that true humanitarian kim jong fatboy is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    How long before you retire to North Korea? You can copy and paste about how misunderstood that true humanitarian kim jong fatboy is.
    Fixed.

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    Look at this map of the port of Odesa (the port is significantly larger, this just the relevant part). The left oval marks the part of the harbor used for loading ships with grains, while the right oval marks the place that was attacked. As you can see, those two places are fairly close, but clearly not the same. According to our military, they attacked a small Ukrainian Navy ship and a warehouse with military stuff. This is entirely within the conditions of the agreement. It is not a truce agreement. We are still free to attack Ukrainian military targets in Odesa and elsewhere, and Ukraine still can do the same - i.e. attack Ukrainian cities with Russian/pro-Russian troops in them. The only part of Odesa we have agreed not to attack is the place marked with the left oval and some installations close to it that are part of the same grain loading/storage complex. We also have agreed not to attack ships with grains. That’s that. And Ukraine has agreed to those conditions.

    https://www.quora.com/Why-is-Russia-attacking-the-port-of-Odesa-just-hours-after-signing-a-grain-deal-with-Ukraine/answer/Boris-Ivanov-49?ch=8&oid=371331023&share=05a6f608&srid=u6VOf&ta rget_type=answer

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    ^ Who the f is Boris Ivanov and what gives him any credence on this subject?

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    Who the f is Boris Ivanov
    Allegedly, from his profile:

    "
    Boris Ivanov

    Studied History & Literature at Russian State University for the Humanities

    Lives in Moscow

    Knows Russian

    100.3M content views3.9M this month

    Joined March 2017."


    Possibly, more knowledgable, better educated and has more followers than yourself.

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    He is still an armchair general spouting the way he thinks things are. Just another opinion. Doubt he is any more knowledgeable than the rest of us.
    Last edited by misskit; 26-07-2022 at 04:47 PM.

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    Gazprom Says to Cut Nord Stream Gas Deliveries Drastically From Wednesday

    Gazprom said it was cutting daily gas deliveries via the Nord Stream pipeline to 33 million cubic meters a day — about 20% of the pipeline's capacity — from Wednesday.


    The company said in a statement on Monday that it was halting the operation of one of the last two operating turbines due to the "technical condition of the engine."

    The supplies from the Portovaya compressor station will be slashed from 7 a.m. Moscow time Wednesday, the company said.


    The announcement came after Russia last week restored critical gas supplies to Europe through Germany via Nord Stream after 10 days of maintenance, but only at 40% of the pipeline's capacity.


    Germany, which is heavily dependent on Russian gas, has accused Moscow of using energy as a "weapon."


    Gazprom cut flows to Germany via the Nord Stream 1 pipeline under the Baltic Sea in recent weeks, blaming the absence of a Siemens gas turbine that was undergoing repairs in Canada.


    Earlier Monday Gazprom said it had received paperwork related to the delayed delivery of the turbine but pointed out a number of issues including those relating to EU and U.K. sanctions remained.


    The showdown comes amid raging tensions over Russia's intervention in Ukraine. EU states have accused Russia of squeezing supplies in retaliation for Western sanctions over the offensive.


    Enduring German reliance on Russian gas coupled with alarming signals from Moscow have turned up the pressure on Europe's top economy.


    A total shutdown of imports or a sharp reduction in the flow from east to west could have a catastrophic effect, shutting factories and forcing households to turn down the heat.

    Gazprom Says to Cut Nord Stream Gas Deliveries Drastically From Wednesday - The Moscow Times

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    Was This Journalist Poisoned by Putin’s Private Army?

    Within days of posting a series of articles attacking the Wagner Group, Jean Sinclair Maka Gbossokotto was called away for an urgent meeting where friends say he was poisoned.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/friend...group?ref=home

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    Who the f is Boris Ivanov and what gives him any credence on this subject?
    It is just a Russian troll farm account, Quora is riddled with them, and it is all complete horseshit as usual from the Three Stooges. Here is video of what was hit...


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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    We have this official statement from the Russian Foreign Minister:

    >ANTALYA, March 10. /TASS/.

    Russia has not invaded Ukraine and doesn’t plan to attack other countries, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said on Thursday after talks with his Ukrainian and Turkish counterparts, Dmitry Kuleba and Mevlut Cavusoglu.<
    Fixed that for you! Hope you don't mind. Actually the same communist BS that you posted on top.
    Don't you ever get tired of being such an idiot?

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    Thank you for reading the post and replying to it.

    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    ANTALYA, March 10. /TASS/.
    You may agree that the quote, from March 10 has been revised.

    Possibly due to the 16% joining into the attack on the Donbass region thus starting their planned "war".

    I suspect that may be one reason why Russia has revised or selected option xxxx of, their play book of military plans.

    Not being in THE LORDS military planing group, I unfortunately, I cannot reply with anything more substantive.

    However. There are speculations that Russia is in the process of offering, some Ukrainian oblasts, the option of creating military units and fight against Ukraine military. Thus Ukraine citizens fighting each other. Presumably being "assisted" by Russia and allies, a la the 16%'s "assistance" to Ukraine by the 16%.

    There are other speculations of referenda being arranged. Where the current Ukraine citizens options, to either exit from Ukraine, as the Donbas oblasts, to form new countries did, or alternatively, joining Russia in some form, will be offered. Which areas have not been finalised.

    But

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Allegedly, from his profile:

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    Boris Ivanov

    Studied History & Literature at Russian State University for the Humanities

    Lives in Moscow

    Knows Russian

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    Joined March 2017."


    Possibly, more knowledgable, better educated and has more followers than yourself.
    Well that settles it then. A genuine experienced rolled gold military strategist.

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    The written text and a 45m video recording of:

    27 July 2022 16:45

    Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov’s statement and answers to the questions during a meeting with permanent representatives of the member countries of the African Union and the diplomatic corps, Addis Ababa, July 27, 2022



    Available here:

    https://www.mid.ru/en/foreign_policy/news/1824184/

    The Russian explanation of various international conflicts and answered to the questions from the international media.

    The Foreign Minister speaks in English, with great knowledge, consistency and clarity.

    Something unfortunately missing in the 16% countries diplomatic speakers.
    Last edited by OhOh; 28-07-2022 at 04:56 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravers98 View Post
    Yep, the brain drain is real. Check this channel out, he is a real good Russian lad. I have been watching him for years as he had superb content about Russia and the channel was fun before the war.






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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    EU states have accused Russia of squeezing supplies in retaliation for Western sanctions over the offensive.
    War is war. The gloves are off.



    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    A total shutdown of imports or a sharp reduction in the flow from east to west could have a catastrophic effect, shutting factories and forcing households to turn down the heat.
    Exactly what is going to happen. The west will have to back off the sanctions. It was a massive mistake to begin with. This idea, Bidens idea, was poorely thought through. Biden spends his time crowing about how this has made NATO and the EU stronger. Let's wait a couple of months until Europeans start spending time freezing their asses off in the cold. Does the American administration have a long term plan or is the plan basically the same as per Afghanistan.
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    Hold the headline, Just in - Russia is being awkward and going to retaliate against the sanctions.

    Quelle surprise

    Drawing board - West - Get back there.

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    Biden is thoroughly compromised in Ukraine because of his corrupt, lowlife junkie son. But at the end of the day he is just a potted plant- it was the neocon elements in State and affiliated areas that really caused this latest debacle. And it spells the end of any question of US unipolar hegemony- so at least that is a good thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Biden is thoroughly compromised in Ukraine because of his corrupt, lowlife junkie son. But at the end of the day he is just a potted plant- it was the neocon elements in State and affiliated areas that really caused this latest debacle. And it spells the end of any question of US unipolar hegemony- so at least that is a good thing.

    Christ, I thought only one halfwit here was still banging on about Hunter Biden's laptop, but it seems there are two.

    With a single digit combined IQ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Biden is thoroughly compromised in Ukraine because of his corrupt, lowlife junkie son.
    Once again, proving you are a propaganda swallowing utter imbecile.

    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    it spells the end of any question of US unipolar hegemony
    Blah, Blah, Blah. Rinse, recycle, repeat ad nauseam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by russellsimpson View Post
    War is war. The gloves are off.
    No-one has attacked Russia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by russellsimpson View Post
    War is war. The gloves are off.
    In your case...War is war your brain is off.

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    Posted on July 28, 2022 by M. K. BHADRAKUMAR
    Lavrov is on Blinken’s list of people to call

    "The US Secretary of State Antony Blinken at a press availability at the State Department on Wednesday made the dramatic announcement that he intends to speak to his Russian counterpart Sergey Lavrov “in the coming days … for the first time since the war began” in Ukraine on February 24.


    Interestingly, he gave an alibi that harks back to the Soviet era — prisoner exchange.
    "

    Continues at:

    Lavrov is on Blinken’s list of people to call - Indian Punchline28 Jul, 2022 22:23

    HomeRussia & Former Soviet Union

    Russia will grant US call request ‘when time allows’

    Washington said it was seeking a conversation between State Secretary Antony Blinken and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov.

    "Moscow has acknowledged receiving a call request from Washington on Thursday. A conversation between the two nation’s top diplomats might take place as soon as the busy schedule of Russia’s top diplomat, Sergey Lavrov, makes it possible, the Foreign Ministry said."

    continues at:

    https://www.rt.com/news/559804-lavrov-blinken-call-time-permit/


    An appropriate Russian proverb:

    сукины дети, в очередь

    Allegedly: "Get in line, sons of bitches, get in line"
    Last edited by OhOh; 29-07-2022 at 12:54 PM.

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