How dangerous is Vladimir Putin?

**harrybarracuda** · 20-07-2022, 09:28 AM

One witless fuck posts a load of shite excuses for Puffy invading a sovereign nation, and along comes another witless fuck to post more bullshit.

They are a pair of brainless fucking morons.

I expect skidmark is going to be Googling now, although thankfully the dumb scandihooligan appears to have fucked off.

So it's sort of two and a half wanketeers at the moment, if you add their IQ points together you'd be lucky to get into double figures.

**sabang** · 20-07-2022, 09:38 AM

Considering you are not qualified to lick Pat Buchanan's boots, wash your mouth out with soap loser.

**harrybarracuda** · 20-07-2022, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by sabang

Considering you are not qualified to lick Pat Buchanan's boots, wash your mouth out with soap loser.

Awww diddums, the truth hurts eh?

**HermantheGerman** · 20-07-2022, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by sabang

Considering you are not qualified to lick Pat Buchanan's boots, wash your mouth out with soap loser.

Why would anyone try to lick his boots?

He was always a looser.

New York Times January 13, 1992

"Pat Buchanan's answers are primitive and vague"

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Mr. Buchanan claims, regarding the Russo-Georgian War of 2008, that “Georgia ordered its army into South Ossetia” before the Russian invasion started. In his words, “Putin responded” to Georgians. This, however, is not true at all. In fact, directly opposite is the case. There is ample evidence from a variety of different sources that Russian army entered sovereign Georgian territory before, not after, the Georgian military operation. Moreover, it was the Russian military invasion that caused Georgia to respond with an operation of its own in a vain effort to stall the Russian army’s advance into the country.

As it is clear to anyone even remotely familiar with international law, invasion of Georgia by the Russian troops constituted an act of aggression, against which Georgia had every right to defend itself. Mr. Buchanan believes that the Russo-Georgian War was not any business of the United States. But he should make his case without disregarding historical evidence and blaming the victim.

**harrybarracuda** · 20-07-2022, 02:12 PM

It's amusing that sabang implies he *is* fit to lick Buchanan's boots.

Imagine being so fucking dumb you would worship someone who's been a racist retard all his life?

In a 1989 column, Buchanan called for the public hanging in Central Park of a 16-year old black teenager and the horsewhipping of four other younger African American and Hispanic teenagers for allegedly raping a white jogger in the Central Park Five case. He also called for the civilization of "barbarians" by putting the "fear of death" in them. Robert C. Smith, professor of political science at San Francisco State University, characterized the column as racist. The five teenagers were convicted but later exonerated, and their convictions overturned, when in 2002 the real perpetrator of the crime confessed and DNA testing affirmed his guilt.

**bsnub** · 20-07-2022, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by sabang

Considering you are not qualified to lick Pat Buchanan's boots, wash your mouth out with soap loser.

Buchanan is a fucking moron. Always has been, so no wonder you like him.

**russellsimpson** · 21-07-2022, 01:59 AM

Originally Posted by bsnub

Buchanan is a fucking moron. Always has been, so no wonder you like him.

Amen to that. On the nose with that comment Snubs

**Backspin** · 21-07-2022, 02:57 AM

Originally Posted by sabang

Considering you are not qualified to lick Pat Buchanan's boots, wash your mouth out with soap loser.

Not one of these NATO war mongering bastards will rebut an article. They will only attack the author.

**bsnub** · 21-07-2022, 04:37 AM

Originally Posted by Backspin

Not one of these NATO war mongering bastards will rebut an article.

The idiocy rolled into that statement is beyond laughable. We are somehow the "war mongers" when it was that murderous bastard Putin that attacked Ukraine without justification and is shelling cities packed with civilians to the fucking ground.

Comments like those that are programmed into simple minds by putrid soviet era propaganda are beyond reprehensible.

**harrybarracuda** · 21-07-2022, 08:09 AM

Originally Posted by bsnub

The idiocy rolled into that statement is beyond laughable. We are somehow the "war mongers" when it was that murderous bastard Putin that attacked Ukraine without justification and is shelling cities packed with civilians to the fucking ground.

Comments like those that are programmed into simple minds by putrid soviet era propaganda are beyond reprehensible.

Yeah but skidmark is a thick c u n t remember.

**panama hat** · 22-07-2022, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

The cause of this war was Puffy invading a sovereign neighbour. It really is as simple as that. Obviously even "simple" is too comp;icated for our wanketeer friends.

Yes. Simple.

Pat Buchanan . . . oh dear, how the three have slipped into the abyss

**sabang** · 22-07-2022, 10:54 AM

**sabang** · 22-07-2022, 11:54 AM

How a Ruinous Imperial War Has Strengthened His Rule at Home

Is Russia at war? To anyone visiting Moscow or even the provinces this summer, it can sometimes be hard to find much evidence. People are going about their usual lives, and the economy continues to function. There are no shortages of consumer goods; so far, so-called parallel imports—the system by which Russian importers circumvent Western sanctions by using third countries—have worked well. Only inflation has remained stubbornly intractable, with the annualized rate currently hovering above 16 percent. And, at least when they are asked, many citizens do not seem overly disturbed by what is happening on their western border.

According to survey data released by the independent Levada Center in June, Russians do not seem to be seriously concerned about the economic effects of the conflict: half of respondents say sanctions will strengthen the country and stimulate development, and another quarter say sanctions will have no negative effect on growth.

Meanwhile, Russian President Vladimir Putin’s approval rating has stabilized above 80 percent, or about ten points above prewar figures. And when it comes to the war itself, many respondents say they are prepared to tighten their belts and that they are proud of their country and their army. Many also express optimism that conditions for consumers will improve and that the future for domestic production looks rosy.

It might be tempting to assume that Russians are simply fearful of speaking their minds. But Levada’s findings, which fluctuate significantly from month to month, have generally proven a useful indicator of the broad direction of the public mood. And at present, many Russians seem remarkably sanguine about their collective future, even as the country embarks on a vast imperial project in eastern Ukraine, one that has already led to an unprecedented wave of refugees and left Russia increasingly isolated.

As the war nears the end of its fifth month, the situation in Russia suggests that a shift is beginning to take place—both in the government and in the general population. As Putin has made clear, Russia’s plans in Ukraine will proceed regardless of the economic consequences—and all indications are these will be large. For ordinary Russians, that has meant that the “special operation” is not going to be over anytime soon. Instead, they must embrace a new Russia in which it is essential to behave like a patriot and support Putin’s theatrics and not concern themselves with temporary hardships. In the new Russia, everyone is fine as long as he or she is not forced into the trenches.

FULL- Putin’s Captives: How a Ruinous Imperial War Has Strengthened His Rule at Home

**OhOh** · 22-07-2022, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by bsnub

that attacked Ukraine without justification

A person who has more knowledge than any TD poster on the subject.

A question and answer from the Russian Foreign Minister on the very topic.

21 July 2022 19:09

Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov’s statements and answers to media questions at a joint news conference following talks with Minister of Foreign Affairs and Trade of Hungary Peter Szijjarto, Moscow, July 21, 2022

"Question:

Over the past year, we can see a trend that is dividing the European countries into two groups: the countries that follow Brussels’ policy and the countries that act in their national interests, like Hungary, for example. The latter often win. Don’t you think that the EU in its current form hinders the development of its member countries more than it contributes to it?

Sergey Lavrov:

I’m not going to dig deep into the EU’s internal development agenda. We read what is written about it. We hear what they say, including in the EU member countries. I can only state that the situation isn’t simple.

There is an ongoing battle. The European bureaucracy wants to subjugate everything and everyone, including national governments, dictate the terms and cut short any dissent. On the other hand, some member countries want to understand how much of its mandate it is using for their benefit, and how much of it represents abuse and is a matter of concern. This is the EU’s internal matter.

I want to make one simple thing clear. We are now seeing the reaction of the West (primarily, that of Brussels and many European capitals) to what is happening in Ukraine. Let me remind you that for many years, in our relations with the European Union, we have been pushing to create an equal and mutually beneficial architecture, including on foreign policy issues. We had some success, but the EU has always been haughty about our attempts to build a balance of interests, preferring instead to make decisions on its own and then impose them on us as the ultimate truth.

The same goes for Ukraine. This didn’t start in February. There was a coup. Right before that, EU representatives (France, Germany and Poland) guaranteed that there would be an agreement between the Ukrainian president and the opposition and signed the corresponding guarantees. The next morning, these guarantees were trampled on and torn apart, and the EU said nothing. It did not call on the putschists to honour the obligations signed by the EU.

The Minsk agreements were signed a year later.

France and Germany were also guarantors, but Kiev bluntly refused to fulfil the agreements. Recently, Petr Poroshenko admitted that he had signed them but had no intention of honouring them. He explained that it was necessary to gain time for Ukraine to receive new weapons. An open and cynical statement.

At that time, the EU tacitly connived in the subversion of the Minsk agreements by Kiev. Likewise, there was no response to Poroshenko’s candid admission. This is a disgrace for serious states that want to deal with important foreign policy challenges.

Now we are hearing hysterical statements about the violation of all thinkable standards of international humanitarian law and about the killing of people. This is true, people are dying, but it is necessary to face the truth and stop brushing aside the facts showing that people are primarily killed by the absolutely senseless shelling of civilian districts in Donbass and other parts of Ukraine by the Ukrainian armed forces and nationalist battalions.

Second, I would like to ask the journalists (this is easy to do in our IT age) to look at how the EU reacted over the past eight years to the deaths of thousands of civilians due to shelling by the Ukrainian authorities at a time when the Minsk agreements were still valid and gave hope for peace in Ukraine sometime in the future. There was no response at all. They just said that this was their country and they had the right to not engage in any dialogue with Donetsk and Lugansk. None of us has heard any condemnation of what the Ukrainian military was doing.

This attitude to one’s own guarantees as regards the Minsk agreements does not apply just to Ukraine. The EU and its bureaucrats behaved exactly the same way as regards the Kosovo problem.

Almost 10 years ago, the EU started acting as a mediator between Pristina and Belgrade at the request of the UN General Assembly. A document on creating a community of Serb-majority municipalities in Kosovo was coordinated in 2013 following these talks. Under the plan, it was decided to establish municipalities in the north of the territory that was mostly populated by Serbs. This was done to grant Serbs elementary rights in Kosovo – language, religion, culture, and economic ties with Serbia. The Minsk agreements contained almost the same provisions on the rights of Donbass in the state of Ukraine.

Pristina buried the agreement on the community of Serb municipalities. The EU has not expressed its attitude towards this outrageous behavior by its mentees.

I have the right to talk about the EU’s foreign policy because they were active in areas that are part of the international community agenda. It is sad to see how the EU is following the US-specified road – the collective West must be united; no step back, left or right; only forward to where their senior partner points.

I can only hope that the EU can overcome the current difficulties. Nobody is interested in a crisis in Europe. There are countries emphasising that their policy will be determined by their own national interests. They do not want to lose their national identity, culture, religion and traditions, including how to bring up children in families. I hope this fair and natural desire will prevail and be respected. This is the main point today."

https://www.mid.ru/en/foreign_policy/news/1823197/

**harrybarracuda** · 22-07-2022, 01:58 PM

More bullshit from Puffy's sock puppet.

**OhOh** · 22-07-2022, 08:45 PM

Some TD members may be anguishing over when, and where, the end to the Russian SMO will be completed.

In another interview with Russian media, he revealed some possibilities:

20 July 2022 15:12

Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov’s interview with RT television, Sputnik agency and Rossiya Segodnya International Information Agency, Moscow, July 20, 2022

"Question:

.... Your trust that every person has a conscience has already done you a disservice with Petr Poroshenko and the Minsk agreements. Maybe you should just stop believing this. Not everyone has a conscience, unfortunately.

We all wonder, and every person in the country wants to know when “this” will end. We all want the special military operation to end as soon as possible, so that people stop dying – our soldiers, and the civilians that their former Ukraine is hitting every day. Ukraine still considers them its citizens de jure, but this isn’t stopping it, as we know.

When will it end? We do not know. I won't ask you about it. Obviously you don’t have an answer.

But where do you think it should end?

Sergey Lavrov:

As for the special military operation and geographic goals, President Vladimir Putin said clearly (as you quoted him): denazification and demilitarisation, which means no threats to our security, no military threats from the territory of Ukraine. This goal remains. Geography-wise, the situation was different when the negotiators met in Istanbul. Our readiness to accept the Ukrainian proposal was based on the situation as of the end of March 2022.

Question:

That was the DPR and the LPR?

Sergey Lavrov:

Yes, more or less. Now the geography is different. It is more than the DPR, the LPR, but also the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions and a number of other areas. This process continues, consistently and persistently. It will continue as long as the West, in its impotent rage, desperate to aggravate the situation as much as possible, continues to flood Ukraine with more and more long-range weapons. Take the HIMARS. Defence Minister Alexey Reznikov boasts that they have already received 300-kilometre ammunition. This means our geographic objectives will move even further from the current line. We cannot allow the part of Ukraine that Vladimir Zelensky, or whoever replaces him, will control to have weapons that pose a direct threat to our territory or to the republics that have declared their independence and want to determine their own future.

Question:

How can this be arranged, technically? This is our territory. Then there are the republics that will accede to us. In fact they already have – the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions. You are diplomats, so you cannot say this. I'm a journalist, and I call a spade a spade. Further west, there is the territory controlled by Vladimir Zelensky. They have a common border. So either there should be a 300 kilometre buffer zone or something between them, or we need to march all the way to Lvov inclusive.

Sergey Lavrov:

There is a solution to this problem. The military know this.

Question:

A secret one? Do you think there is a chance that we will leave half-way? This is something our subscribers and viewers are fearing.

Sergey Lavrov:

I see no reason to question what President Vladimir Putin announced on February 24, 2022, and reaffirmed a few days ago – our goals remain the same. And they will be met."

and

"Sergey Lavrov:

..... Egypt is our number one trade and economic partner in Africa with trade just under $5 billion. The first nuclear power plant is being built. The construction of a Russian industrial area on the banks of the Suez Canal is nearing completion. Our relations with Africa have even brighter prospects now that the African Union decided last year to establish the African Continental Free Trade Area. Specific criteria and tariffs for this area are being agreed upon, which will take some time. This will benefit Russia as Africa’s rising partner in terms of boosting our trade and investment which are quite modest compared to the United States, China and the EU. We must work hard, with our colleagues, to prepare for the second Russia-Africa summit. The first one took place in Sochi in 2019. The second one is planned to be held next year.

Question:

Maybe in Odessa?

Sergey Lavrov:

No, probably not in Odessa. We will announce the venue later. An economic forum will be held concurrently with the summit with round table discussions on trade, energy, cybersecurity, agriculture, outer space and nuclear energy."

https://www.mid.ru/en/foreign_policy/news/1822901/

**harrybarracuda** · 22-07-2022, 09:57 PM

And even more bullshit from Puffy's sock puppet.

Got any news or facts to post hoohoo?

**russellsimpson** · 23-07-2022, 04:11 AM

The Russian propaganda machine appears to have found a new writer. This guy sounds just a tad contrived don't you think Oh-Oh?

The news out of Istanbul and the grain is very promising. If they can agree on the grain shipments they can agree on ending the bloodbath. So all is not lost.

**sabang** · 23-07-2022, 06:13 AM

Whether you consider it propaganda, or valid, or not, I think it is important in any conflict situation to try and understand the other parties POV. This does not just apply to Russia/ Ukraine.

**harrybarracuda** · 23-07-2022, 08:05 AM

Originally Posted by sabang

Whether you consider it propaganda, or valid, or not, I think it is important in any conflict situation to try and understand the other parties POV. This does not just apply to Russia/ Ukraine.

So when you said Russia wouldn't invade Ukraine you were parroting this stupid fucking sock puppet then?

**OhOh** · 23-07-2022, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by russellsimpson

If they can agree on the grain shipment

Another deal achieved through diplomacy.

22 Jul, 2022 19:43 Home Russia & FSU

‘Beacon of hope’: A look inside the Russia-Ukraine grain deal

An agreement on shipments from Black Sea ports has been signed by Moscow and Kiev in Turkey.

"Russian and Ukrainian officials on Friday individually signed a UN and Turkey-brokered deal for the resumption of grain shipments from Black Sea ports to world markets. The agreement, which has been described in a tweet by UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres as “a beacon of hope, possibility & relief,” consists of two documents.

The memorandum, which is valid for three years, addresses the issue of sanctions on Russian agricultural products and fertilizers.

The second document, which is valid for 120 days with the possibility of extension, defines the mechanism for the export of Ukrainian agricultural products from ports controlled by Ukraine.

READ MORE: Deal struck on Ukraine grain exports

According to Guterres, the deal “will help avoid a food shortage catastrophe for millions worldwide.”

Here, we take a look at some key provisions in the much-anticipated agreement:

The UN’s role

The memorandum assigns the UN the task of ensuring restrictions on the export of Russian agricultural products and fertilizers are lifted.

“It is, in particular, about removing the obstacles that the US and the EU have created in the areas of finance, insurance, and logistics, to achieve specific exemptions for these products from the restrictive measures imposed against our country,” Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said in a statement. He was pleased that Washington and Brussels had “stopped obstructing the achievement of today’s agreements” and added that signing the memorandum displays the “purely artificial character of the West’s attempts to shift the blame on Russia for problems with the supply of grain to world markets.”

Security guarantees for the ships

Dry cargo ships have been provided with security guarantees and will now be allowed to leave the ports. Grain-carrying vessels will not have a military escort, but the parties to the deal pledged not to attack them.

Green corridors

The deal provides for the creation of safety corridors from Odessa, as well as Chornomorsk and Yuzhny. Ships will navigate through these corridors in the Black Sea under the direction of Ukrainian pilots, and then pass through the Bosphorus Strait.

Inspection

An inspection of all grain-carrying ships will be carried out by Russian, Ukrainian, and Turkish officials at the ports chosen by Ankara in order to prevent the smuggling of weapons and ammunition.

Coordination

The deal mandates the immediate creation of a Joint Coordination Center, which will be based in Istanbul and will include representatives from Ukraine, Russia, and Turkey. The center will supervise the safe passage of ships along the agreed corridors.

Russia and the UN will create a mechanism for the exchange of information on the export of products and fertilizers through the country's permanent mission to the organization."

‘Beacon of hope’: A look inside the Russia-Ukraine grain deal — RT Russia & Former Soviet Union

One can only wait and see if the agreement is honoured by all partner.

**OhOh** · 23-07-2022, 03:23 PM

22 Jul, 14:36

Transnistria to keep course towards joining Russia — top diplomat

Transnistria's foreign policy vector remains unchanged: it is independence and subsequent accession to the Russian Federation, which was approved at the 2006 referendum," Vitaly Ignatiev said

"CHISINAU, July 22. /TASS/. Transnistria maintains the course for independence with eventual accession to Russia, which was approved in the 2006 referendum, the unrecognized republic’s Foreign Minister Vitaly Ignatiev told reporters on Friday.

"Transnistria's foreign policy vector remains unchanged: it is independence and subsequent accession to the Russian Federation, which was approved at the 2006 referendum," the minister said.

This vector was supported by 98% of the participants in the plebiscite. After that, the Transnistrian Supreme Council asked the State Duma, the Federation Council and the president of Russia to recognize the republic as a sovereign independent state.

The unrecognized republic of Transnistria was established on September 2, 1990, on Moldovan territory on the left bank of Dniester River, inhabited by predominantly Russian-speakers. Local residents opposed the actions of Moldova’s radical politicians, who sought the republic’s separation from the USSR and unification with Romania. Moldovan officials attempted to resolve the situation by force, which ended up causing over 1,000 deaths in the conflict that followed, while tens of thousands were injured or became refugees.

The war came to an end after a peace deal was signed in July 1992 in Moscow, and Russian peacekeepers were deployed to the conflict zone. Since then, the peacekeepers have been ensuring tranquility and stability in the region in cooperation with both Moldovan and Transnistrian servicemen, which enables Chisinau and Tiraspol to hold talks to settle the conflict. The OSCE, Russia and Ukraine act as mediators and guarantors in these talks."

Transnistria to keep course towards joining Russia — top diplomat - World - TASS

**Takeovers** · 23-07-2022, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by OhOh

Security guarantees for the ships

Dry cargo ships have been provided with security guarantees and will now be allowed to leave the ports. Grain-carrying vessels will not have a military escort, but the parties to the deal pledged not to attack them.

Russia attacked the port of Odesa with missiles today. Fine way to honor the agreement.

**HermantheGerman** · 23-07-2022, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by OhOh

Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov’s interview with RT television, Sputnik agency and Rossiya Segodnya International Information Agency, Moscow, July 20, 2022

"Question:

EXCLUSIVE ONLY HERE ON TD !

Behind the scenes interview with RT, Sputnik, Rossiya

"Mr. Lavrov, we know that you are just another idiot and spineless twat. That's why these questions that we are about to ask you have been approved by your Fuehrer. Putler was of course kind enough to supply you with the right answers. Please stay in line like a good little Nazi and just do what you are told. Remember that we NEVER had any heroes in Russian history, only cowards like you. Now sit down and play your puppet role."

**HermantheGerman** · 23-07-2022, 06:02 PM

This is my favorite Russian clown. Even though he is reading his script from some poor Russian slob holding up a card board, he looks like he just shit in his pants because he is afraid to say just "ONE SINGLE" word wrong.

Has anyone noticed how God dam ugly these Russian bastards are? Our 3x stooges must have something in common with them

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