Thread: How dangerous is Vladimir Putin?

He's right. Operation freedom created a lot of prosperity. That was the plan after all.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

You think there is freedom in Iraq now???

They were given the opportunity but we can't spoon-feed them. The fight goes on.

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

we can't spoon-feed them.

So we smart bombed them?

Originally Posted by sabang

I doubt the average Iraqi, Afghani or Syrian thanks the USA for their role in providing them with security.

I'll take that bet, when do you begin the poll?

Originally Posted by buriramboy

and the country was a lot more safer and stable

Kurds?? Can only please some of the people some of the time, it's their country now they need to determine the direction of freedom and equality, we gave them that opportunity, as the Thai's would say. "up to them"..

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

They were given the opportunity

what opportunity ? by opening the doors to ethnic conflicts ?

Putin gonna fuk the $.......

Russia Holds "De-Dollarization Meeting": China, Iran Willing To Drop USD From Bilateral Trade | Zero Hedge

^ Its going to take more than Putin to kill the US dollar and I bet dimes to dollars that China wont follow through with this. If it is even true at all.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Putin gonna fuk the $.......

Russia Holds "De-Dollarization Meeting": China, Iran Willing To Drop USD From Bilateral Trade | Zero Hedge

Time to invade Iran, China and Russia

oh wait, those countries have nukes, can't beat up the other bullies

Originally Posted by bsnub

^ Its going to take more than Putin to kill the US dollar and I bet dimes to dollars that China wont follow through with this. If it is even true at all.

1 week to find out but I'm betting China will as who supplies a greater % of Chinas energy needs, Russia or the US??? plus China as much as Russia would like to see the end of $ dominance. As always with US foreign policy it's always done with no foresight as to the consequences, while this deal if it happens won't kill the $ in itself it will set a precedent that others will follow and the $ decline will gather momentum.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

They were given the opportunity

what opportunity ? by opening the doors to ethnic conflicts ?

I think conflict was always there. Oh and did you miss Iraq-Iran war? Well it only lasted about 10 years.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Putin gonna fuk the $.......

Impossible. Russia does not have the resources of following to do that.

I thank you for posting that Zero Hedge article though.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

I'm betting China will as who supplies a greater % of Chinas energy needs, Russia or the US???

China and Russia are enemies. Not likely at all they would join their forces against US(D). China lives and thrives on this economic model.

China has been selling US debt and accumulating gold and they would like to see a 'dedollarised' world as much as Russia and many others. The US fuked up in supporting the overthrowing of the elected government in Ukraine and totally miscalculated what Russia's response would be and they still continue to do so with their childish sanctions think that their will be no response. Who do you think is going to end up backing down Obama or Putin???

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

Not likely at all they would join their forces against US(D).

I get it - you're a wind up merchant?

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Who do you think is going to end up backing down Obama or Putin???

I get the feeling neither will. Heading towards a cold war perhaps.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

Not likely at all they would join their forces against US(D).

I get it - you're a wind up merchant?

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Who do you think is going to end up backing down Obama or Putin???

I get the feeling neither will. Heading towards a cold war perhaps.

Putin ain't gonna fold as he's currently holding the winning hand and knows it.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Who do you think is going to end up backing down Obama or Putin???

Yes, Putin is way harder and can literally f up some soft left politician. But that does not make it right, and Obama is not the US.

Originally Posted by Koojo

Originally Posted by FloridaBorn

Originally Posted by buriramboy

and the country was a lot more safer and stable

Kurds?? Can only please some of the people some of the time, it's their country now they need to determine the direction of freedom and equality, we gave them that opportunity, as the Thai's would say. "up to them"..

This is the type of simplistic American thinking that combined with ignorance causes so many problems.

Really so what is ignorant about it? Oh do tell? This ought to be good..

Russia Holds "De-Dollarization Meeting": China, Iran Willing To Drop USD From Bilateral Trade | Zero Hedge

There it is again for you.

Originally Posted by pickel

There is a hell of a lot more of it since the invasion. Saddam was secular and kept the fundamentalists in check. America's biggest mistake in the war was disbanding the Iraqi army.

There is truth in this, but then how to hold them in check and keep their objectivity as well while cooperating with the allied forces.

Originally Posted by pickel

Why Americans, (who are some of the nicest people I've ever met), can not see that their tax dollars are being robbed from them by greedy neo-cons for nefarious purposes, boggles my mind. And they complain when a mere fraction of the cost of the neo-con agenda is requested to treat their genuinely destitute and unfortunate countrymen.

Who says we don't see it? The problem isn't seeing it, it's finding one credible candidate to overcome it, and then putting them into office against all of the well healed opposition to said candidate and then once they're in office preventing them from becoming neutered during their term, not at all a difficult task ..

Originally Posted by FloridaBorn

Who says we don't see it?

You come across as a supporter of the war, so, obviously you don't see it.