Thread: How dangerous is Vladimir Putin?

Originally Posted by OhOh

Try posting the full story.

Try not lying.

Russia has shown it delivers, come rain come shine, over many years - except when it doesn't want to.

See? It's easy.

Does the gas to US goes through Ukraine?

31 JUL, 02:16
Russia ranks second by petroleum exports to US in May 2021
Canada tops the list of petroleum exporters to the US in May and Mexico is third

MOSCOW, July 30. /TASS/. Russia became second by total petroleum exports to the United States in May 2021, with record-breaking deliveries totaling 26.17 mln barrels, the US Energy Information Administration (EIA) reports on Friday.

The previous record was set in May 2009, when Russia delivered crude oil and petroleum products to the US totaling 25.08 mln barrels.

Canada tops the list of petroleum exporters to the US in May with 125.75 mln barrels and Mexico is third (22.56 mln barrels).

Russian petroleum products account for the bulk of deliveries to the United States. Crude oil export amounted to just 8.6 mln barrels but is at the same time the all-time high figure since June 2011. Russia ranks third in terms of oil export after Canada (109.86 mln barrels) and Mexico (18.59 mln barrels).

Russian export of crude oil and petroleum products to the US surged almost 2.5-fold year-on-year in May 2021, including oil supplies alone soaring by 65 times.

Total crude oil imports by the US equaled 180.65 mln barrels in May 2021, up 6.1 mln barrels against April.

Russia ranks second by petroleum exports to US in May 2021 - Business & Economy - TASS

^ And these are the same people who tried to bully Germany & Russia out of completing Nordstream 2? It's one rule for you, another rule for me.

^There is a new project NorthStream 3, continuation up to East Coast (why were we surprised that no longer objections to finishing NS2 ?)

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Well no, because I have no idea what that drivel means.

If you have a sharp enough bit you can drill anyone! I thought you are smart cooky figure this out. No one is perfect especially in politics. You can blame everyone for something even if they have a best attention. We lost a common sense a long time ago no going back from this rat-hole with out psychically hurting people.

Originally Posted by global

If you have a sharp enough bit you can drill anyone! I thought you are smart cooky figure this out. No one is perfect especially in politics. You can blame everyone for something even if they have a best attention. We lost a common sense a long time ago no going back from this rat-hole with out psychically hurting people.

I'm sorry, you're speaking klondick-ese.

No fucker knows what any of that shit means.

Originally Posted by Klondyke

^There is a new project NorthStream 3, continuation up to East Coast (why were we surprised that no longer objections to finishing NS2 ?)

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I'm sorry, you're speaking klondick-ese.

No fucker knows what any of that shit means.

I am 'orry 'arry, again the was forgotten... (would it help you?)

Originally Posted by Klondyke

There is a new project NorthStream 3, continuation up to East Coast

It is not a project.

The Russians are coming:

Merkel and Putin to discuss Afghanistan, other major issues



Merkel’s visit to Moscow comes as she is nearing the end of her almost 16-year-long leadership of Germany. Despite sharp differences, she has maintained close contacts with Russian President Vladimir Putin, who has been in power for more than two decades.

“Even though we certainly have deep differences today, we speak to each other -- and that should continue to happen,” Merkel said as she sat down for talks with Putin in the Kremlin.
Merkel and Putin to discuss Afghanistan, other major issues


Which one from the two above has been longer at helm? Did she also have to murder her opponents? Our expert on Deutschland would surely know...

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Did she also have to murder her opponents? Our expert on Deutschland would surely know...

Umm, no need to be an expert, really. Just follow the news.

And not be a jaundiced oddball with an axe to grind.

Originally Posted by Klondyke

resident Vladimir Putin

What a pathetic little man.

Originally Posted by bsnub

What a pathetic little man.

Why they do not find somebody more brilliant, marvelous, admirable, somebody like (please no name...)

Merkel has been in power for almost the same amount of time as Putin. Because you know, Dmitri Medvedev was the president of Russia from 08-12. In mind and body. He was literally the head of state. Not Putin. Anyone who says Putin has been in power for 20 years is lying scum.

See that ? There he is. That's not Putin. Look a little closer.

Originally Posted by bsnub

What a pathetic little man.

Hmm

I'm not sure that the leaders of the world sees him like that.

Even Russia isn't ...pathetic like it was 20-30 years ago.

With the Taliban in control of Afghanistan, world must focus on preventing collapse of state & cross-border terrorism, Putin warns

The Russian president and the German chancellor were speaking to journalists during the latter’s state visit to Moscow.

“The Taliban control virtually the entire country, including the capital,” Putin said, saying that other countries should react to the situation on the ground. “This is reality.”

He also called on the world to turn its efforts to prevent terrorists from infiltrating Afghanistan’s neighboring countries in the guise of refugees.

“We see that the Taliban have announced the end of combat operations, started restoring public order, and promised to guarantee the security of local residents and foreign diplomatic missions,” he noted. “I hope that all this will be materialized.”

The president also took aim at the West for “imposing” foreign values on the country, and for “the desire to build democracies in other countries according to someone else’s model.”

With the Taliban in control of Afghanistan, world must focus on preventing collapse of state & cross-border terrorism, Putin warns — RT Russia & Former Soviet Union

..."also took aim"? Cannot imagine how such "aim" would be "taken" in case another superpower would be blamed. Surely a urgent session of SC UN, sanctions, expulsions, armies at the gate...
And that all beside the outrage of "international community" and their grandiose speeches...

(but we do not use the same standard, do we?)

Vladimir Putin:

With regard to the person you just mentioned, he was not convicted for his political activities, but a criminal offense against foreign partners.

After all, the Russians also lost the war in Afghanistan (beside the many poisonings and gaspipes laying). Therefore, they are obliged to new sanctions:


US sanctions Russian firearms imports, missile-related technology exports to Moscow
21 Aug 2021

The sanctions "include a restriction on the permanent importation of firearms or ammunition manufactured or located in Russia pursuant to new or pending permit applications"

WASHINGTON, August 20. /TASS/. The United States has slapped Russia with a second round of sanctions over the incident with blogger Alexey Navalny, restricting imports of firearms and ammunition from Russia as well as exports of nuclear and missile-related technology to that country, says a statement released by Spokesperson for the US Department of State Ned Price on Friday.

It says that a second round of sanctions is imposed on Russia by the US Department of State under the Chemical and Biological Weapons Control and Warfare Elimination Act (CBW Act).

The sanctions "include a restriction on the permanent importation of firearms or ammunition manufactured or located in Russia pursuant to new or pending permit applications," it says.

"New and pending permit applications for the permanent importation of firearms and ammunition manufactured or located in Russia will be subject to a policy of denial," the Department of State noted.

In the meantime, the US Treasury imposes "further restrictions on nuclear and missile-related technology exports to Russia." The press release says that the sanctions will take effect on September 7 and "will remain in place for a minimum of 12 months." The sanctions may be lifted once Russia "has met several conditions."

Navalny was rushed to a local hospital in the Siberian city of Omsk on August 20, 2020, after collapsing on a Moscow-bound flight from Tomsk. He fell into a coma and was put on a ventilator in an intensive care unit. On August 22, he was airlifted to Berlin and admitted to the Charite hospital. On September 2, the German government claimed that the blogger had been affected by a toxic agent belonging to the Novichok family. According to Berlin, the conclusions were substantiated by French and Swedish laboratories.

Kremlin Spokesman Dmitry Peskov has reiterated that Moscow stays ready for comprehensive cooperation with Germany and pointed out that no poisonous substances had been detected in Navalny’s system prior to his transfer to Berlin.

US sanctions Russian firearms imports, missile-related technology exports to Moscow - World - TASS

Originally Posted by OhOh

o be continued."

Q & A continuation:

"Question (retranslated):

Madam Federal Chancellor, the Minsk agreements are 6 years old now, but Ukraine remains divided, and you yourself said that people along the demarcation line in Donbass are dying. Following your talks today, are there any concrete plans to hold new talks at the heads of state or government level, or should we conclude that the Normandy format has failed?

And a question for you, Mr President. Once the Nord Stream 2 is completed, can you guarantee that gas transit across Ukraine will remain in place, and if so, will this arrangement remain in force after Ms Merkel leaves the post of chancellor?

Angela Merkel:

With regard to the Minsk agreements: we have failed to achieve the goals that we wanted to achieve. But this is the format we have, including the trilateral contact group, and talks with the separatists in Donetsk and Lugansk regions.

So, this format needs to be handled with care, but progress is not as good as I would like it to be. However, if we identify an agenda, we can make arrangements for high-level meetings and talks. But we need to know what to discuss. During my visit to Ukraine, I will be pushing for identifying this agenda, because any minor progress can be decisive. However, this represents a very ambitious goal and a very challenging task. There are many inputs here. I still recommend this format, even though it is taking more time than we wanted, but we still need to avoid a dead end.

Vladimir Putin:

I agree with the Federal Chancellor regarding the Minsk agreements and the Normandy format. We have no other tool to achieve peace, and I believe that it should be treated very carefully and with respect, despite the fact that we have so far failed to achieve the ultimate goals of the settlement.

The Minsk agreements are enshrined in a corresponding UN Security Council resolution, and in this sense, the Minsk agreements have become international law.

We are concerned that during the official talks and in their contacts with the media, the Ukrainian side says one thing, but inside the country it says something very different. In fact, and I want to emphasise this, it is enough to look at what the top public officials are saying, and they are saying that they are not going to comply with the Minsk agreements.

Today, I informed the Federal Chancellor that another draft law has been submitted by the Ukrainian government. If this law is adopted – please read it, it is not a classified document, it is probably available online – it means that Ukraine will, in fact, withdraw from the Minsk process unilaterally. Because it is not just that only certain things contradict the Minsk agreements, everything there contradicts the Minsk agreements. This will mean Ukraine’s de facto withdrawal from these agreements. I hope that during her visit, the Federal Chancellor will use some of her influence and exert some pressure on the Ukrainian authorities, and that this law will not be adopted.

Now, with regard to gas transit. Indeed, the Federal Chancellor has always advocated this approach. Always, mind you, even during construction, which is about to be completed. There are 44 or 45 kilometres left to go. (Addressing Alexei Miller.)

How many, Mr Miller? 15?

There are 15 more kilometres across the sea to go. We can safely assume that this project is nearing completion. But the Federal Chancellor has always raised the issue of continuing transit across Ukrainian territory even after the expiry of the transit contract.

The first thing I want to say in this regard. First, today this issue was raised again by the Federal Chancellor during the talks. I assured the Federal Chancellor that we will fully comply with our obligations under the transit contract even after she leaves the office of Federal Chancellor. Russia will fulfil all its obligations. We are doing so now and we will continue to do so going forward.

Next, Nord Stream 2. Some people claim the project is politically motivated. This is a fallacy or an attempt to mislead people. It is 2,000 kilometres shorter than the Ukrainian transit route. And it is a modern environmentally friendly system, and I mean it. It uses innovative equipment which, I believe, cuts carbon emissions into the atmosphere during the transit of our hydrocarbons to Europe by five times. We just need to be aware of it and know it. And it is much cheaper than transit across Ukraine.

However, we stand ready, and I’ll say it again, I have already said it publicly before and I want to make a point of it now, that we stand ready to transit gas across Ukraine beyond 2024. But we must understand the timeframe and volumes. And for this, we must know, and our European partners must tell us, how much they are willing to buy from us. This is obvious.
We cannot sign a transit contract if we have not signed supply contracts with our consumers in Europe. With the green agenda, which is already underway in Europe, we are wondering whether anyone will be buying gas from us altogether and, if so, how much. This needs to be discussed.

In any case, this is a purely business matter. I mean there is yet another component that is the technical condition of the pipeline system. To reiterate, we are not only willing to discuss this, we are really willing to get there. This is especially true of our supplies to Southern Europe. Consumption is on the rise, and I hope it will keep rising in the years ahead. Today, there is no other, more reliable source than Russian gas for German and other European consumers.

Question: Mr President, Ms Merkel,

You have been in close contact during the past 16 years: you have met and have spoken by phone. There have been ups and downs in relations between Russia and Germany during those 16 years. In general, what is your appraisal of the results achieved over 16 years and what is your vision of the future of Russian-German relations?

Vladimir Putin:

The question is not quite pertinent. I would rather not appraise the performance of the Federal Chancellor, as only the German people can do this, including at the upcoming elections to the Bundestag.

Indeed, our relations have lived through different times. We just noted that we have taken different approaches to assessing various situations. Nevertheless, cooperation between us over these years, despite the difficulties we faced throughout this fairly lengthy period, has expanded and become more diverse.

Today, we talked about the economic aspect [of our relations]. The Federal Republic is our second largest trade and economic partner next to China – over $7 billion… We invested about $7.5 billion – it is even $9.5 billion – in Germany, while our German partners invested $18 billion [in our economy]. Importantly, German companies largely operate in the industrial sector. We appreciate this.

Today, Madam Chancellor put forth some concrete questions in connection with – I understand this, as I do the same on our behalf – the need to safeguard the interests of German businesses in the Russian market. This has to do with the level of domestic content and the like. All these are current issues. Generally, the quality of our relations has changed fundamentally, getting, of course, better. Hopefully, after the elections and the change of government, this trend will remain in place.

Angela Merkel:

I believe that, despite different political systems, we need to keep communications channels open and exchange opinions. This is evidenced by the global situation and the history of relations between Germany and Russia. Our countries have lived through different periods, some of them terrible and some very pleasant.

Of course, during my term as chancellor, the political systems in our two countries have developed in different directions, so there are some vital matters that need to be discussed. All these differences notwithstanding, we have always managed to keep the negotiating channel open. I hope I have managed to contribute to this. I will always say that a failure to maintain dialogue is a poor choice. "

Merkel's phone rang during talks with Putin
August 20, 2021, 14:38

The phone call came at the beginning of a meeting between Russian President Vladimir Putin and German Chancellor Angela Merkel in the Kremlin. The head of the German government apparently forgot to turn off her cell phone.

During the welcoming speech of the Russian leader, a ringtone was heard, for the first moment no one seemed to know how to react. But then Merkel, realizing herself, took out her phone from her pocket and, obviously, turned it off or switched it to silent mode. Putin did not show that he had paid attention to this incident and continued his speech, RIA Novosti reports .

Wondering who tried to call Merkel during negotiations with Putin: Biden, Zelensky or her husband?


ВЗГЛЯД / Телефон Меркель зазвонил во время переговоров с Путиным :: Новости дня

You have to almost admire how trained politicians can speak volumes without actually saying anything.

With regard to the Minsk agreements: we have failed to achieve the goals that we wanted to achieve. But this is the format we have, including the trilateral contact group, and talks with the separatists in Donetsk and Lugansk regions.

So, this format needs to be handled with care, but progress is not as good as I would like it to be. However, if we identify an agenda, we can make arrangements for high-level meetings and talks. But we need to know what to discuss. During my visit to Ukraine, I will be pushing for identifying this agenda, because any minor progress can be decisive. However, this represents a very ambitious goal and a very challenging task. There are many inputs here. I still recommend this format, even though it is taking more time than we wanted, but we still need to avoid a dead end.

(Eureka, in 25 years we do not need dangerous Mr. Putin...)

Merkel: Europe will no longer depend on Russian gas in no later than 25 years

/ Reuters
German Chancellor Angela Merkel, during talks with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in Kiev, called the timing of Europe's refusal of Russian gas. According to her, this should happen no later than 25 years later. The words of the German leader are reported by RIA Novosti .

Merkel noted that by 2046 European countries will either completely stop the supply of blue fuel from Russia, or will import gas in small volumes. The Chancellor pointed out that Ukraine will have to adapt to life without gas transit and start cooperating in other areas, for example, on hydrogen.

At the meeting, the leaders of the countries discussed the construction of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline from Russia to Germany. Zelensky called the project dangerous from the point of view of Kiev. According to the president, Ukraine regards it as a geopolitical weapon.
Merkel, in turn, noted that Germany is attentive to Kiev's remarks. According to her, in case of violations by Moscow, sanctions may be imposed against Russia. At the same time, the Chancellor noted that gas transit through Ukraine should continue after 2024 - for this it is necessary to discuss the extension of the agreement.

Меркель назвала сроки отказа Европы от российского газа: Госэкономика: Экономика: Lenta.ru

What the fuck are US bases doing in Germany? Protecting the energy supply from Russia?