How dangerous is Vladimir Putin?

**Dragonfly** · 17-12-2016, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Putin helped defeat the murderous savages who held Aleppo. No matter what he or Assad may be like they are a million times better than the IS filth who turned Aleppo into a slaughterhouse while Western idiots offered every help they could to the "rebels". This is one of the most astonishing pieces of mass delusion I've ever witnessed. The so-called rebels are IS and al-Qaeda.

astonishing how blind and idiotic our western governments have become. I assume CIA is running the show in most of the foreign office in western democracies. 15 years of stupdity and madness by the Americans has created a world of cahos and wars. Time for a change, and yes Putin is the savior here, thank god we have him. Trump is going to be the other savior before they try to assasinate him.

Originally Posted by sabang

It might be interesting to compare the number of people killed under his orders, with those killed under dubya and obamas orders.

indeed, how we forget

Originally Posted by sabang

In your ignorance and utter naivete in falling for your government's and a compliant media's onslaught of mendacious propaganda, you are now supporting vile, sadistic Jihadists in a campaign of slaughter and wholesale ethnic cleansing against people like us. Nice one.

hey, it's Harry, he works 24/7 in an Indian call center, can't blame him

**harrybarracuda** · 17-12-2016, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by sabang

It is exceedingly doubtful even a near majority of the Sunni population in Syria support the Islamist rebels- even if they have no great love for the Assad regime. Who wants to live under Isis, or al Qaeda?

They support these extremist groups for the same reason the Lebanese now support Hizbollah against Israel.

They are their only hope against Assad's slaughter.

Support for the Islamist rebels comes mainly from poorer, rural, Islamist sectors of society. The sort of people who resent seeing affluent, middle class Sunni's, Allawite's, Chritians, Kurds mixing it together in urban nightclubs and restaurants- spending the sort of money they can't, getting merrily drunk, and having a great time together.

You mean the majority of the Syrian population who don't brownnose to and collude with the Alawite.

Just because you got pissed with a few Syrian Vichy in a Damascus nightclub, you're under the impression that most of Syria want Assad in charge. Well you're wrong. They didn't want his father in charge either, and he massacred the population of Hama and bulldozed over them to quell that rebellion.

In your ignorance and utter naivete in falling for your government's and a compliant media's onslaught of mendacious propaganda, you are now supporting vile, sadistic Jihadists in a campaign of slaughter and wholesale ethnic cleansing against people like us. Nice one.

Don't put words in my mouth, shithead. I loathe them with a passion, but they are an inevitable consequence of the West turning its back on the Syrian people.

Thank you, President Putin- it is you alone who is standing up for our values of tolerance, pluralism, secularism and religious freedom.

If you believe that shit, I have a bridge to sell you. You're just another Putin arselicker.

**harrybarracuda** · 17-12-2016, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

hey, it's Harry, he works 24/7 in an Indian call center, can't blame him

You're in early Buttplug, sold all your newspapers already?

**Dragonfly** · 17-12-2016, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

hey, it's Harry, he works 24/7 in an Indian call center, can't blame him

You're in early Buttplug, sold all your newspapers already?

I am not as lucky as you, waking up every morning in that beautiful sunshine in the desert, on your knees, watching cocks being erected.

**harrybarracuda** · 17-12-2016, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

hey, it's Harry, he works 24/7 in an Indian call center, can't blame him

You're in early Buttplug, sold all your newspapers already?

I am not as lucky as you, waking up every morning in that beautiful sunshine in the desert, on your knees, watching cocks being erected.

Aaaaaaaaaaand he's straight onto cock again. The bloke can't stop thinking about it.

**harrybarracuda** · 17-12-2016, 04:41 PM

No surprise that a large number of the GOP admire the way Putin has managed to oppress his people and steal large sums of money from the national coffers.

That's all they try and do themselves.

More Republicans viewing Putin favorably - POLITICO

**bsnub** · 17-12-2016, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

No surprise that a large number of the GOP admire the way Putin

Shows that the fake news propaganda that works in Russia works in America too. Stupid people are everywhere.

**Dragonfly** · 17-12-2016, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Aaaaaaaaaaand he's straight onto cock again. The bloke can't stop thinking about it.

that's because you are such an inspiration for it, don't know why

maybe because you always sound like one ?

**Little Chuchok** · 17-12-2016, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Originally Posted by Humbert

^^Code brown alert again. Christ it's getting thick in here with all the worship for Putin and Assad.

I spent quite a lot of my life in Syria. I know Aleppo very well. I always travelled to Syria by bus and train, crossing the border outside Antakya - in Turkey. Antakya is also known as Antioch, you might want to look upthe significance of that name in Western culture (although these days it's nothing special). I have many, many friends in Aleppo. maybe I should say I HAD many, many friends there. I spoke to some of the survivors today. Friends I haven't spoken to for a long long time but who are now able to communicate over the internet because Bashar's army escorted them out to safety.

Every single one of my Christian friends is dead, you do know Aleppo had a large Christian community, don't you. Every single one of them, entire families from grandparents to toddlers. Mostly crucified or decapitated. The women raped first of course, even those in their 80s. Waste not, want not, eh? It wasn't the Syrian Army or the Russians who did that.

They were all killed by the rebels, most of them were killed quite slowly. The area of the city they live in has gone, blown up. Not blown up by barrel bombs, blown up by IS and Al-Qaeda. It was a lovely area, little winding alleyways with bars and restaurants hidden behind tiny little doors. They weren't illegal but they always reminded me of speakeasys, open the tiny door and you were in a huge room, two stories high, hundreds of people talking and laughing, a piano player in the centre. I always ordered the local speciality, a kind of kibbeh kebab with a black cherry sauce. All gone now, an entire culture wiped out by an evil death cult.

I always stayed at the Baron Hotel. It was owned by an Armenian, Mr Masmoulian, I think. I never knew him. I knew Mr Walid though, the Major-Domo. I used to hire his 1950's Buick, Aziza, for trips around Aleppo and visits to the Dead Cities. I would carry messages for him to his enormous family all around Syria, Hama, Homs, Tadmor, Damascus. They're all gone now too.

I drank in the bar of the Baron, the barman was a Palestinian. It was a tiny bar, T.E Lawrence and Agatha Christie drank there a long time ago, when we got nostalgic the barman would take the old guestbooks out of the safe so we could see their signatures. When I was a regular most of the customers were Alawite Mukhabarat, we used to get very drunk on raki and sing scurrilous songs about Bashar and his semi-deified brother Basil.

I had many Muslims friends too, we used to walk to the souk together and I'd visit their houses and eat halva, lots and lots of halva. I hate halva. They'd visit me and we'd drink raki. Aleppo is one of the oldest cities on earth, maybe even the oldest. We'd talk about that and wonder if that was the reason Christians, Jews, and various different types of Muslim lived together peacefully. Most of them had absolutely no time for fundamentalists and worried about those who supported Al-Ikhwan al-muslimeen, most of them supported what Hafas and Riaat did in Hama, always called "the incident" in Syria, and only wishing that they'd finished the job.

Did you know Syria was the only country where people still spoke on a daily basis the language Jesus spoke?

Most of those muslim friends are dead too. Killed because they weren't Muslim enough, or because they had attractive wives or children. Or because they liked to drink raki with foreigners.

Anyway, out of my many hundreds of friends and acquaintances in Aleppo I've been able to get in touch with in the last couple of days. Two doctors and a teacher, I knew them and their families well. These days, of course, they're just refugees and victims, the object of Teakdoor contempt and vilification, and their families are much, much smaller.

They told me that a couple of days ago they had to hide because the heroic rebels you seem to love so much were moving through the streets killing everyone they saw. They were finally rescued by the Syrian Army and taken to a Refugee centre.

The Syrian Army, once they'd taken an area, moved through the streets rounding people up and taking them to refugee centres just outside the city. My friends that they are with thousands of people and under the protection of the army and they have not heard a single instance of these alleged Syrian Army death squads reported in the Western media.In fact they'd never even heard those stories until I mentioned them.

They are pathetically grateful to Putin. They looked to the West for help and we pissed on them. Putin came and rescued them and they don't care about his ultimate aims. They just care that they're finally free of the nightmare creatures that have destroyed everything they held dear.

Don't give me this shit about Putin or Assad. Nothing either of them has ever done compares remotely to the atrocities inflicted on the Syrian people by the so-called rebels our governments and our media have supported. The aims of Putin are entirely suspect but the fact is that his military have rescued tens of thousands of people from fates we can barely imagine. The few remaining of the many Syrians I once knew are only grateful that somebody, finally, came to their aid and are very clear that no matter how bad Bashar or Putin might have been they are nothing, absolutely nothing, compared to the IS and al-Quaeda filth the Western media have been lauding as rebel heroes.

I'd love to see Humberts reply to this.

**harrybarracuda** · 17-12-2016, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Aaaaaaaaaaand he's straight onto cock again. The bloke can't stop thinking about it.

that's because you are such an inspiration for it, don't know why

maybe because you always sound like one ?

Keep it in your pants Buttplug.

Go and take your sexual frustration out on the katoeys like you usually do.

**Humbert** · 17-12-2016, 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by Little Chuchok

I'd love to see Humberts reply to this.

It's one person's perspective. Doesn't change my opinion of the fact that Russia contributed to the civilian catastrophe.

**Neverna** · 17-12-2016, 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by Little Chuchok

I'd love to see Humberts reply to this.

It's one person's perspective. Doesn't change my opinion of the fact that Russia contributed to the civilian catastrophe.

So did the USA. So did the ISIS terrorists. So did the "rebels". So did the UAE, so did Qatar and Saudi Arabia, etc etc.

**harrybarracuda** · 17-12-2016, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by Neverna

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by Little Chuchok

I'd love to see Humberts reply to this.

It's one person's perspective. Doesn't change my opinion of the fact that Russia contributed to the civilian catastrophe.

So did the USA. So did the ISIS terrorists. So did the "rebels". So did the UAE, so did Qatar and Saudi Arabia, etc etc.

But none of them vetoed UN security council resolutions that would have ended in Assad's isolation and probable ouster.

**Little Chuchok** · 17-12-2016, 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by Little Chuchok

I'd love to see Humberts reply to this.

It's one person's perspective. Doesn't change my opinion of the fact that Russia contributed to the civilian catastrophe.

So Dr Bob is full of shit?

**Neverna** · 17-12-2016, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by Neverna

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by Little Chuchok

I'd love to see Humberts reply to this.

It's one person's perspective. Doesn't change my opinion of the fact that Russia contributed to the civilian catastrophe.

So did the USA. So did the ISIS terrorists. So did the "rebels". So did the UAE, so did Qatar and Saudi Arabia, etc etc.

But none of them vetoed UN security council resolutions that would have ended in Assad's isolation and probable ouster.

They just sent in more and more arms to ensure the war carried on for even longer, resulting in more deaths, more destruction, more refugees, etc etc.

**Humbert** · 17-12-2016, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by Little Chuchok

So Dr Bob is full of shit?

Why don't you post your own opinion instead of trying to put words in my mouth you facile little troll.

**harrybarracuda** · 17-12-2016, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by Neverna

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by Neverna

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by Little Chuchok

I'd love to see Humberts reply to this.

It's one person's perspective. Doesn't change my opinion of the fact that Russia contributed to the civilian catastrophe.

So did the USA. So did the ISIS terrorists. So did the "rebels". So did the UAE, so did Qatar and Saudi Arabia, etc etc.

But none of them vetoed UN security council resolutions that would have ended in Assad's isolation and probable ouster.

They just sent in more and more arms to ensure the war carried on for even longer, resulting in more deaths, more destruction, more refugees, etc etc.

The removal of Assad is the only way this war will end. That was their only option to bring it to an early close.

Putin sabotaged it. He wanted his arms customer, and he wanted his Med naval base.

**sabang** · 17-12-2016, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

But none of them vetoed UN security council resolutions that would have ended in Assad's isolation and probable ouster.

Correctly so- that would have only unleashed a full on bloodbath. There is no unified opposition against the Assad regime, end of story. In case you hadn't noticed, the Kurds are more busy helping eliminate IS now than fighting the Assad regime, Turkey is busy battling the Kurds much more than Assad, IS & AQ have been fighting each other, the Kurds, and the Assad regime, Israel is helping IS where it can and bombing regime forces, the US doesn't know what the hell it is doing or who it is really fighting as usual- only Russia and Iran have their eye on the ball, and they are fighting IS & Al Qaeda in support of the Assad regime, and against Islamic terrorism.

The US was wrong in Iraq, wrong in Libya, and they are wrong here. It has become a mind numbingly repetitive story.

^ Wrong- Assad will not be removed. The US has got it's head up it's ass if it still thinks that is on the table.

**Neverna** · 17-12-2016, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

The removal of Assad is the only way this war will end.

I disagree, but time will tell.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Putin sabotaged it.

Putin wanted to stop Syria turning into another Iraq or Libya or worse.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

He wanted his arms customer, and he wanted his Med naval base.

Ahh, Russia wants arms customers and military bases in foreign countries. Imagine that. So, Putin thinks much like the USA, the French, the British, etc. Same as it ever was.

**sabang** · 17-12-2016, 07:17 PM

Bear in mind the posters throwing churlish little hissy fits here are the same posters confidently saying that Assad would be soon ousted 3-4 years ago. A little pique, perhaps?

**harrybarracuda** · 17-12-2016, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by sabang

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

But none of them vetoed UN security council resolutions that would have ended in Assad's isolation and probable ouster.

Correctly so- that would have only unleashed a full on bloodbath.

And precisely what do you think have now?

Assad has easily exceeded his father on subjects murdered, and if unable to defend themselves the death toll would probably be even higher.

**DrB0b** · 17-12-2016, 07:58 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by sabang

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

But none of them vetoed UN security council resolutions that would have ended in Assad's isolation and probable ouster.

Correctly so- that would have only unleashed a full on bloodbath.

And precisely what do you think have now?

A full on bloodbath PLUS an army of deranged psychopathic sex-obsessed religious sadists who've already overrun much of the middle-east and are now sending their dead-eyed acolytes to murder people in our countries. At worst Bashar left to himself would have repeated the Hama incident. That was a bloodbath too but it would have kept IS and AQ out and would have been absolutely nothing compared to the hell Syria has become and the monstrous ideology that has been unleashed upon the world. In his wildest dreams Sayidd Qutb could never have imagined how successful the ideology he invented would become and he could never, ever have believed that it would be the West's own ineptitude that made it so succesful.

**harrybarracuda** · 17-12-2016, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by DrB0b

A full on bloodbath PLUS an army of deranged psychopathic sex-obsessed religious sadists who've already overrun much of the middle-east and are now sending their dead-eyed acolytes to murder people in our countries.

Oh purlease, haven't we just been watching Fox fucking News.

Overrun much of the Middle East my arse, they haven't even overrun Syria and Iraq.

**DrB0b** · 17-12-2016, 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by DrB0b

A full on bloodbath PLUS an army of deranged psychopathic sex-obsessed religious sadists who've already overrun much of the middle-east and are now sending their dead-eyed acolytes to murder people in our countries.

Oh purlease, haven't we just been watching Fox fucking News.

Any sensible response, Harry? You seem to be getting very emotional, why is that? I've explained, partially, how I came to my conclusions. What about you? What was your involvement in Syria and Iraq?

**OhOh** · 17-12-2016, 08:40 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

You're just another Putin arselicker.

Hey you awaded that task to me.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

The removal of Assad is the only way this war will end. That was their only option to bring it to an early close.

Assads dismissal would have ended the thoatcutters march onwards to victory and peace and happines falls?

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