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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    Tony Abbot said the Malaysian govt knew in the first week that it was murder suicide
    No he didn't say that.
    "almost certain" is what he said and that is as close you get until the plane is found.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    No he didn't say that.
    "almost certain" is what he said and that is as close you get until the plane is found.
    Utter nonsense. Parts of MH370 have been found and the parts tell EVERYTHING

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    First. Larry Vance's credentials.

    Larry Vance has spent a lifetime in aviation. His background as a training pilot, flight test examiner, and civil aviation inspector led to a career as a professional accident investigator.

    He was Investigator-In-Charge for over 200 field investigations. He was also the deputy leader in the Swissair 111 crash investigation, for which he received a Government of Canada Certification of Recognition. He also received the prestigious Government of Canada Merit Award for writing the Transportation Safety Board of Canada's Manual of Investigation Operations.

    The official investigation is saying that the aircraft hit the water at high speed. Like Swiss air 111. The problem with that is, the Swiss air aircraft broke in 2 million small pieces. Every part of the aircraft including the wings, was pulverized into small piece by the impact of the water. Nothing hollow can retain its shape because the air inside the hollow part is pushed by the water until the part, whether fuselage or wings, explode. So there is no way a piece of the wing would surface and survive intact from a high speed hit.



    Anyway, the first thing to know when you ditch an aircraft is that the landing gear stays up. The engines are the first thing to hit the water. They are designed to break off. Well one of the pieces that was found is an engine faring.

    The second thing that hits the water is the flaperons. And in a controlled ditching, they are manually deployed and can only be manually deployed. This is evident from the damage that the flaperon has on the outward edge. Also, the fairing above the LEFT wing flaperon was also found. Obviously this was dislodged because of the leverage that the water was putting on that flaperon.



    The third thing that happens when you ditch an aircraft is one of the wings will eventually hit the water as it will not balance equally. In this case the right wing hit first (the intact flaperon is the right side). With the forward momentum, the wings leverage starts to push the wing structure into the fuselage and crush everything in between. Damage from this effect is called compression fractures. The right side flaperon that was found and the wing flap both have compression fractures. This action is actually what caused the flaperon to be dislodged from the aircraft in the first place.

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    You are freaking nuts. This thread proves that. But proves diddly about how the flight crashef

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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    But proves diddly about how the flight crashef
    I'm going with into the sea.

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    Coincidentally, I'm currently working with an old Norwegian mate who worked on the Seabed Constructor during the search for MH370 and he's told me some interesting stuff.

    But I can't say anything.

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    ^ we can wait until that box of wine is in you.

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    I daresay that after ditching the aircraft in the middle of nowhere in the Southern ocean, the captain may have briefly felt a tad silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    Coincidentally, I'm currently working with an old Norwegian mate who worked on the Seabed Constructor during the search for MH370 and he's told me some interesting stuff.

    But I can't say anything.
    Oh come on, by saying that you have already said A. Now give us the B!

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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    You are freaking nuts. This thread proves that. But proves diddly about how the flight crashef
    When the 4 things that float to shore 18 months later are an engine cowling , a right side flaperon (with compression fractures) and both flaperon farings, you know it was a ditched aircraft.

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    i've already read 1 book on MH370 and i just ordered Larry Vances book. I am a MH370 nerd.

    I stayed up all night watching this. These guys basically came to the same conclusion.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmond View Post
    ^ we can wait until that box of wine is in you.

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    Its nice to watch professional airmen talk about this instead of all the internet pseudo experts.

    See the big darker blue circle on the map ? That is the Malaysian military radar. Everyone knows that the pilot shut off the transponder. But what is less known is that the pilot actually shut off all the electrical power and ran the jet on the *RAT while he was inside the military radar and turned the power back on just as he exited the radar beam.



    *The Boeing 777 is equipped with three hydraulic systems. ... Under emergency conditions hydraulic power is generated by the ram air turbine (RAT) which is deployed automatically and drives an Eaton variable dis- placement inline pump. The RAT pump provides flow to the center system flight controls.

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    That's the first I've heard of this woman's reported sighting.

    A possible crash-site for flight MH370 has been identified after the plane vanished over the South Indian Ocean in 2014. The Malaysia Airlines jet had been flying from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing with 239 people on-board when it disappeared on air traffic control radar screens. Pieces of the plane then later washed ashore in the western Indian Ocean, while the passengers and crew are all assumed to be dead.

    Four aviation experts now believe the plane may have crashed in the ocean within 100 nautical miles of the coordinates S34.2342 and E93.7875. In a study, Dr Victor Iannello, Bobby Ulich, Richard Godfrey and Andrew Banks examined 2,300 possible paths the flight could have taken in order to identify the most likely crash-site.

    They also developed a model which examined every part of the plane, including fuel data, military and civilian radar data, weather information and drift analysis of the debris which washed ashore. Their report declares the most probable flight path to be around 100 nautical miles to the west of Banda Aceh, on the island of Sumatra, in Indonesia.


    The research also takes in account a possible sighting of the plane by a woman named Kate Tee, who was on a sailboat southeast of Great Nicobar Island and northwest of Sumatra. She described seeing a ‘large aircraft coming towards her from the north, flying at an unusually low altitude’, the report stated.

    It is not known why the MH370 crashed, but investigators have previously suggested it may have been a ‘murder-suicide’ by the pilot. Data examined by experts suggested the pilot had been ‘in control [of the plane] until the very end’. Other evidence revealed there had been ‘some abnormal turns made by the 777 can only be done manually’.


    Underwater searches for the plane were called off in 2018 and there is not <sic> indication that they will resume again in the future.
    Read more: MH370 experts ‘find crash site' in breakthrough to find missing flight | Metro News
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    Oh...

    The 41-year-old, who spent 13 months at sea, said she did not report the incident at the time because she was having marital issues and thought she might be going mad.

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    Investigative journalist points finger at world governments in new MH370 book

    An investigative reporter has made incredible claims against governments, describing a disinformation plot to hide the “real truth” about the doomed flight.

    A French reporter who has spent years investigating the peculiar case of the MH370 flight claims the Malaysia Airlines plane was brought down by the US government, alleging the entire mystery surrounding the missing aircraft had been manufactured to hide the truth.

    The 400-page book, The Disappearing Act: The Impossible Case of MH370, written by Florence de Changy, makes a number of incredible claims against the US, insisting its military used advanced jamming technology to make the 777 aircraft invisible to nearby radars before shooting it down.

    Mrs de Changy, who works as a correspondent for French newspaper Le Monde, claims the US had tried to re-route the flight in order to seize “highly sensitive” technology before it landed in Beijing.

    According to the long-time investigative reporter, it was “simply not possible for a Boeing 777 to have disappeared” and that many of the theories currently held by the public are misguided.

    She claims disinformation was intentionally distributed by governments tied to the flight’s disappearance – including Australia, France and the UK among others – in a bid to help the US hide their supposed attack.

    The search for the MH370 has become the most expensive in aviation history. It is also currently the most deadly incident involving a 777, with the entire 239 passengers and crew assumed dead.

    It is still unclear what brought about the plane’s mysterious demise, with many theories including a potential hijacking, a rogue pilot and a hypoxia event resulting in an unplanned decompression of the cabin circulating in the media over the past seven years.

    But according to de Changy’s bizarre theory, the unsavoury truth has been staring the world in the face with the US and Chinese governments openly locking horns in geopolitical disputes for years. She claims the initial, scrambled search effort was a pointless exercise and goes on to suggest it was undertaken to help cover up the real story.

    “In the case of MH370, many different means were deployed at the same time,” she said. “The advance of truth has been crippled from day one.”

    De Changy also scolded Australia’s $200 million search program, which failed to find conclusive evidence after years of scouring the ocean off the nation’s west coast. The fact the Australian search was conducted thousands of kilometres from the flight’s last reported location was also grounds for suspicion, the author said.

    “When it came to the art of bungling a search operation and providing deliberate or accidental misinformation, Australia ran Malaysia pretty close,” she said.

    The book’s release came shortly after experts revealed new research produced by oceanographers and flight experts has pinpointed a possible resting place for the Malaysian Airlines Boeing 777.

    It is now believed the wreckage could be at the bottom of the Indian Ocean, about 1900km west of Cape Leeuwin in Western Australia. Peter Foley, who headed the Australian Government’s years-long search for the aircraft, said a new expedition should search the sea floor 70 nautical miles either side of the target area, which is notorious for its deep ocean floor canyons and underwater mountains.

    “Large tracts haven’t been searched fully,” he told the Times in March.

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    What happened to flight MH370? New book questions official narrative (video)

    It's probably the greatest mystery in modern aviation: what happened to flight MH370? On March 8, 2014, the Malaysian Airlines flight disappeared en route to Beijing. Seven years later and despite the most expensive underwater search in history, no wreckage has been found and the families of those on board are no closer to understanding what happened. Florence de Changy, an investigative journalist, has spent years trying to get answers. She has now published her second book on the topic, "The Disappearing Act". She tells us why she does not trust the official narrative.

    What happened to flight MH370? New book questions official narrative - Perspective

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    There are a number of reasons pointing towards Captain Zaharie....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    When the 4 things that float to shore 18 months later are an engine cowling , a right side flaperon (with compression fractures) and both flaperon farings, you know it was a ditched aircraft.
    Crashed into the sea or ditched, the evidence does not prove the aircraft was ditched or that there was an attempt to ditch. The starboard flaperon could just have easily been deflected following a high speed crash into the sea with no flaps deployed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    Crashed into the sea or ditched, the evidence does not prove the aircraft was ditched or that there was an attempt to ditch. The starboard flaperon could just have easily been deflected following a high speed crash into the sea with no flaps deployed.
    There would have been a lot more debris if the plane didn't land and sink near intact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    Crashed into the sea or ditched, the evidence does not prove the aircraft was ditched or that there was an attempt to ditch. The starboard flaperon could just have easily been deflected following a high speed crash into the sea with no flaps deployed.
    The flaperon could not have dislodged from the aircraft in the air. Only a ditching would provide the necessary forces to dislodge it intact. Watch one of the Larry Vance interviews.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    What happened to flight MH370? New book questions official narrative (video)

    It's probably the greatest mystery in modern aviation: what happened to flight MH370? On March 8, 2014, the Malaysian Airlines flight disappeared en route to Beijing. Seven years later and despite the most expensive underwater search in history, no wreckage has been found and the families of those on board are no closer to understanding what happened. Florence de Changy, an investigative journalist, has spent years trying to get answers. She has now published her second book on the topic, "The Disappearing Act". She tells us why she does not trust the official narrative.

    What happened to flight MH370? New book questions official narrative - Perspective
    I know of this author and her theory. I am skeptical.

    What she does have right though , is that there is a geopolitical angle.

    The pilot was a big supporter of the politician that was charged and convicted of sodomy the day before.

    I believe it was a hostage taking. The pilot shut the transponder off and then took out a satellite phone and gave the tower the number. The tower got him in contact with the government. He started negotiating with the govt. If his demands were met , he would land the plane in Australia. But in the negotiations, he believed that the govt was leading him on. So he didnt make the left turn needed to get to Australia. He turned right instead. And the negotiations ended. So he carried out his threat and took the plane into the Indian ocean where it would never be found.

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    Interesting theory...I hadn't thought of that angle. Did you think of it, or see it somewhere ?

    If that was the case though, you would think that the hostage negotiators would have promised the earth just to get him back, then reneged on the deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    Interesting theory...I hadn't thought of that angle. Did you think of it, or see it somewhere ?

    If that was the case though, you would think that the hostage negotiators would have promised the earth just to get him back, then reneged on the deal.
    There is an interview on YouTube with an investigative journalist who goes through it all. But I can't find it yet.

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    Here we go, more yootube videos as evidence

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