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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    The flaperon could not have dislodged from the aircraft in the air. Only a ditching would provide the necessary forces to dislodge it intact. Watch one of the Larry Vance interviews.
    How does Larry Vince explain the flap track damage indicating that the flaps were retracted? Similarly the starboard outboard flap damage is indicative of flaps being retracted. The pieces are large enough to suggest the aircraft didn't nose dive into the sea at high speed. However, there is no positive indication that the aircraft was ditched.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    How does Larry Vince explain the flap track damage indicating that the flaps were retracted? Similarly the starboard outboard flap damage is indicative of flaps being retracted. The pieces are large enough to suggest the aircraft didn't nose dive into the sea at high speed. However, there is no positive indication that the aircraft was ditched.
    It's all covered here. If it hit the water in a high speed dive then 1000's of pieces would have washed up with the current


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    No it isn't covered in the diagram. The eveidence suggests the flaps, and therefore the flaperons, were retracted and not deployed. Just because it wasn't a high speed nosedive into the ocean doesn't mean it had to be a ditching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    No it isn't covered in the diagram. The eveidence suggests the flaps, and therefore the flaperons, were retracted and not deployed. Just because it wasn't a high speed nosedive into the ocean doesn't mean it had to be a ditching.
    A group of European experts came to the same conclusion as Vance as far as ditching and the flap. They had a whole presenatiton on the flap http://mh370-captio.net/wp-content/u...g-scenario.mp4


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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    How does Larry Vince explain the flap track damage indicating that the flaps were retracted? Similarly the starboard outboard flap damage is indicative of flaps being retracted. The pieces are large enough to suggest the aircraft didn't nose dive into the sea at high speed. However, there is no positive indication that the aircraft was ditched.
    Anyone can interpret a missing plane any way they like until its discovered. That's why c u n t s keeping writing books with "new information" when there isn't any.

    The pilot put the plane in davy jones locker and that's that. If they ever find it, it will probably be mostly intact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    If they ever find it, it will probably be mostly intact.
    Yes because the bottom of the ocean is made of wool and cotton..

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    Yes because the bottom of the ocean is made of wool and cotton..
    Have you not seen pictures of the Titanic then lom?


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    'HUGE' MH370 breakthrough in search for missing plane.


    Explained about 3/4 of the way through


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    ^ I was reading an article about this a couple of days ago... I meant to post it but forgot.

    It's not really a big breakthrough... just another guy's calculation. I think it said narrowing down the search area to 40 square miles? That's still a huge search area in deep water and irregular seafloor terrain, even if the position was reliable. The cost of the searchp would be huge with minimal chance of success.

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    But it has to be done.

    Bring in the submersibles !

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    As we near the ninth anniversary of this event - brace yourselves to a new round of conspiracy theories

    This documentary from November 2022 covers some of the theories. Appears a combination of exploding mangosteens and lithium batteries isn't an option.


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    There were a flurry of news reports in December that the looney running around the Indian Ocean trying to solve the crime had found a trunnion door being used by a native as an ironing board; it was damaged, supposedly proving that the landing gear was down when the plane hit the water.

    The Australian who keeps coming up with fairy stories was all over it like a cheap suit and it was picked up around the world, by tabloids especially, and turned into a brilliant story....

    until some actual engineers proved that it wasn't actually a trunnion door off a B377 and they'd basically got all excited over nothing and written another load of made up shit. The story promptly died.

    These nutters will keep repeating this process ad nauseam until the plane is found.

    It means they can keep re-releasing their shitty books with "Contains exciting new information!" or some such twaddle on the front cover.

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    A very good friend of mine was involved with the Ocean Infinity searches for MH370 in the southern Indian Ocean and his opinion is that the seafloor containing the airplane wreckage, if indeed it was there, could easily have been covered by the search, but without any discovery. The seafloor in that part of the world is extremely mountainous and unless the density of the search was sufficient it would be fortuitous to actually image the airplane wreckage. Any mountainous underwater terrain will leave large parts of the seabed 'in shadow' from the search equipment.

    I can't see how the wreckage will ever be found. The cost is astronomical (thankfully, for those in the industry), and if a search isn't carried out properly there will always be doubt that the location of the wreckage hasn't already been covered. There is constant battle between technical requirements and cost, as each additional survey line obviously costs money. And the bean counters always win.

    Look at AF447... there was pretty much a perfect position for where that flight went down but it still took several searches until the wreckage was found.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    I can't see how the wreckage will ever be found.
    Simple answer: Technology.

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    ^ The technology is there... it's about money.

    You can search for some buried treasure in a field, and you'll maybe find it with a metal detector if you walk up and down the field with 1 metre line spacing. But if you're only willing to use 5 metre line spacing, you save 80% cost, but you'll almost definitely never detect it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    ^ The technology is there... it's about money.

    You can search for some buried treasure in a field, and you'll maybe find it with a metal detector if you walk up and down the field with 1 metre line spacing. But if you're only willing to use 5 metre line spacing, you save 80% cost, but you'll almost definitely never detect it.
    Perhaps I should elaborate:

    With the speed at which modern technology advances, eventually they will have the technology to detect undersea metal deposits in small amounts from a floating vessel, and eventually even space.

    Remember, it was only 66 years from the first manned flight to man landing on the moon, and we are already realistically looking at putting men on Mars only 54 years later.

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    Yeah... deep water changes a lot.

    The driver of much subsea technology development has been hydrocarbon exploration in increasingly deeper water but that will presumably reduce.

    Maybe the search for subsea rare earth metals will provide finance for new technology but personally I can't see this happening from the surface in 3000m plus water depths.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    Yeah... deep water changes a lot.

    The driver of much subsea technology development has been hydrocarbon exploration in increasingly deeper water but that will presumably reduce.

    Maybe the search for subsea rare earth metals will provide finance for new technology but personally I can't see this happening from the surface in 3000m plus water depths.
    Mate in the future they will have technology to do it from space while they hunt for extrasolar resources to exploit.


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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    it was only 66 years from the first manned flight to man landing on the moon
    This is one of my conversational tidbits.

    But I put it as 'The first man to fly could have met the first man to walk on the moon, as they were both alive at the same time. That's how fast technology can advance once a breakthrough has been made'.

    It's not as fast as how people make an excuse to leave, or slink off to another area of the room, but one day someone will be interested in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    exploration in increasingly deeper water but that will presumably reduce.
    i doubt it, mineral exploitation

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    I was gonna say that Harriet will get mad that someone bumped the thread without the jet being found. There he does goes.

    Larry Vance already solved what happened. The aircraft was ditched..its just a matter of finding it now

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    It is interesting to see what the former president of Malaysia was saying at the time. The pilot of MH 370 was a supporter of the US backed opposition leader at the time, who was jailed on sodomy charges the day before the plane went missing. That leader has since become prime minister.

    Malaysian opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim convicted of sodomy

    Then came MH 370

    Then came the president saying this:

    Malaysia Airlines Flight 370: Former Leader Says CIA in MH370 Cover Up | Time The former Malaysian leader on Sunday accused American intelligence agents of covering up what really happened to the Malaysia Airlines plane missing since March.

    Now the sodomy guy is president. No power struggle going on here. Nope, not at all.

    Anwar Ibrahim’s Long Road to Power - New Lines Magazine

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    No power struggle? Did you ignore the last Malaysian election????

    No word from Mahatir? He’s 90 fuckimg years old and a has been, you tit.

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    No power struggle? Did you ignore the last Malaysian election????

    No word from Mahatir? He’s 90 fuckimg years old and a has been, you tit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWilly View Post
    Mahatir? He’s 90 fuckimg years old and a has been
    Recently became one, to be fair

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