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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    The documents were recording
    One presumes the "recordings" include a video of the Ukrainian fighter shooting it's cannon at the plane.


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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    One presumes the "recordings" include a video of the Ukrainian fighter shooting it's cannon at the plane.

    Yeah well with that fucking little to go on, I'd suggest you try a bigger quote.

    I have no fucking idea what post you are responding to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    One presumes the "recordings" include a video of the Ukrainian fighter shooting it's cannon at the plane.

    i think u got ur malaysian planes mixed up

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    Yes, you are right.

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    Oh FFS HoHo.


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    Do they say anything about one of the last voice transmissions, which seemed to be someone mumbling or speaking incomprehensively ??

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    There was some lunatic rambling on about the ameristanis this and ameristanis that...nobody's been able to decipher it though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    Do they say anything about one of the last voice transmissions, which seemed to be someone mumbling or speaking incomprehensively ??
    I don't fucking know, why don't you read it and find out?


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    They may have hacked into Harry's phone?

    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    Do they say anything about one of the last voice transmissions, which seemed to be someone mumbling or speaking incomprehensively ??
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I don't fucking know, why don't you read it and find out?

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    “We have examined the pilot, the flight officer. We are quite satisfied with their background, with their training, with their mental health, mental state. We are not of the opinion that it could have been an event committed by the pilot,” head investigator Kok Soo Chon told reporters in Kuala Lumpur, according to Australia’s The Age newspaper.
    No, of course not. We can't blame it on a Malaysian now, can we?.

    Much like the Egyptians wouldn't blame it on one of their own despite all of the evidence to the contrary.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gameel_Al-Batouti

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    Keeps coming back to looking like the cap't with the estranged wife and flight simulator in the basement and did it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Decent summary of the report.
    From your link:

    "“We cannot deny the fact that, as we have analyzed, the systems were manually turned off with intent or otherwise. “So we feel that there’s also one possibility that could account for all these,” the official said. “No matter what we do, we cannot exclude the possibility of a third person or third party or unlawful interference."

    Either a person inside the aircraft or from afar.


    How do they know the systems were turned off manually?

    Presumably when the phrase "manually turned off" is used it usually means a person's physical "action", of flipping a switch or pressing a button. The action breaks a circuit, which leads to the power supply to a certain piece of electrically powered equipment being stopped, which caused the radio/radar/transponder ....... to stop working.

    If the aircraft is a "fly by wire"/computer controlled one, if hacked from elsewhere through it's data link, wouldn't the perceived affect, i.e. on the now powerless "system" have been identical?
    A tray full of GOLD is not worth a moment in time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Presumably when the phrase "manually turned off" is used it usually means a person's physical "action", of flipping a switch or pressing a button. The action breaks a circuit, which leads to the power supply to a certain piece of electrically powered equipment being stopped, which caused the radio/radar/transponder ....... to stop working

    possible that manually means not by computer or automation. Dunno how the cockpits work but maybe possible that some devices can be remote controlled....or somebody's talking above his pay grade

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    From your link:

    "“We cannot deny the fact that, as we have analyzed, the systems were manually turned off with intent or otherwise. “So we feel that there’s also one possibility that could account for all these,” the official said. “No matter what we do, we cannot exclude the possibility of a third person or third party or unlawful interference."

    Either a person inside the aircraft or from afar.


    How do they know the systems were turned off manually?

    Presumably when the phrase "manually turned off" is used it usually means a person's physical "action", of flipping a switch or pressing a button. The action breaks a circuit, which leads to the power supply to a certain piece of electrically powered equipment being stopped, which caused the radio/radar/transponder ....... to stop working.

    If the aircraft is a "fly by wire"/computer controlled one, if hacked from elsewhere through it's data link, wouldn't the perceived affect, i.e. on the now powerless "system" have been identical?
    You and your fictitious nonsense, honestly.

    "hacked via it's <sic> data link"...... to what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    No, of course not. We can't blame it on a Malaysian now, can we?.
    That bit struck me as a stretch of the facts as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    You and your fictitious nonsense, honestly.

    "hacked via it's <sic> data link"...... to what?
    Take off your blinkers. I am surprised you are unaware of such systems.

    1. The inbound and outbound comms systems are out there, search for "civil aircraft data link". A sample of

    https://www.aviation-ia.com/activities/data-link-systems-subcommittee

    Aircraft Communications | AviationPros.comhttps://www.mygdc.com/assets/public_...unications.pdf

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_link


    2. The aircraft control capabilities have been around for decades;

    Civil-Military Interoperability For GPS Assisted Aircraft Landings Demonstrated

    "A government-industry team accomplished the first precision approach by a civil aircraft using a military Global Positioning System (GPS) landing system Aug. 25 at Holloman AFB, N.M., Raytheon Company announced today. A FedEx Express 727-200 Aircraft equipped with a Rockwell-Collins GNLU-930 Multi-Mode Receiver landed using a Raytheon-developed military ground station. Raytheon designed and developed the differential GPS ground station under an Air Force contract for the Joint Precision Approach and Landings System (JPALS) program.

    The JPALS system is being developed to meet the Defense Department's need for an anti-jam, secure, all weather Category II/III aircraft landing system that will be fully interoperable with planned civil systems utilizing the same technology.

    Raytheon and the U.S. Air Force have been conducting extensive flight testing for JPALS at Holloman over the last three months.

    The FedEx Express 727-200 aircraft at Holloman successfully conducted a total of sixteen Category I approaches. After completing a number of pilot flown approaches for reference the aircraft conducted six full autolands using the JPALS ground station. "The consistency of the approaches allowed us to proceed to actual autolandings with very little delay," said Steve Kuhar, Senior Technical Advisor Flight Department for FedEx Express.

    The aircraft was guided by differential GPS corrections, integrity information, and precision approach path points transmitted from the Raytheon developed JPALS ground station. Although the approaches were restricted to Category I, accuracies sufficient to meet Cat II/III requirements were observed."

    Civil-Military Interoperability For GPS Assisted Aircraft Landings Demonstrated

    Another three year + "enquiry" leads to no factual conclusion. Smelling of manipulation/pay-offs.

    Pieces of an aircraft, the aircraft which was "lost" or doctored fakes? Plenty of planes in easily accessible Arizona's deserts.

    Found after being transported by the
    convenient factual current. Bound to hit the land sometime, maybe months/years later to confirm an illusion.

    No proof as to where these pieces of "evidence", may or how, been introduced into the
    convenient factual current. An air-plane crash into the sea or the pieces of evidence transported by ship, plane or submarine and released into the current. Many countries have the resources. Some pretty close by, an island shut off from prying eyes with facilities.

    Contact lost with Malaysia Plane.-mhflightpath-jpg

    Last "official" radar record. Presuming the ameristani Singapore base, warships and plane's, at sea or in the air/space, radar was switched off and Diego Garcia's similarly. Heading south west. What is south west of Malasia ............

    Contact lost with Malaysia Plane.-diego-garcia1-jpg

    Location. Within range, 4,400km to Beijing, 3,900 km KL and ample electronic ground and airborne control and mangement systems, in an allegedly, black hole of surveillance.

    Contact lost with Malaysia Plane.-b-1_bombers_on_diego_garcia-1024x731-jpg
    Nice long Airstrip. To land, hard or soft, the captured plane, to disembark people and cargo, to "process" the people, cargo and airplane. All invisible to the world.

    Contact lost with Malaysia Plane.-uss_saratoga_cv-60_at_diego_garcia_in_1987-jpg

    Port. To export the remains, people and "evidence" to a convenient ocean.

    Contact lost with Malaysia Plane.-diego_garcia_0007-jpg

    Security and labs. To keep prying eyes away, render the people and fabricate "evidence".


    The "evidence" washing up "eventually" and being "found" by yet another gullible emotional, well rewarded little brown man. Confirmation of the illusion.



    Show me the poof none of the above couldn't have happened.

    Much more comfortable to believe the MSM illusion and blame the emotional little brown people, eh.

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    Funny how these conspiracy nutters so readily give away their lack of education (and therefore general understanding) with execrable English and punctuation.

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    ^Thank you.

    So, you admit you cannot disprove the possibility or my points? It appears the "official report" also cannot dismiss the possibility.

    If so please "educate" me in your "perfect" English and illustrate it with your "generally understood"/"accepted" facts.

    I look forward to your reply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    ^Thank you.

    So, you admit you cannot disprove the possibility or my points? It appears the "official report" also cannot.

    If so please "educate" me in your perfect English and illustrate it with your "generally understood" facts.
    Oh there are unending possibilities.

    It's just that there is no fucking way any of them are realistic, except in the minds of delusional cretins who post shit like this without really understanding what they're posting:

    A FedEx Express 727-200 Aircraft equipped with a Rockwell-Collins GNLU-930 Multi-Mode Receiver landed using a Raytheon-developed military ground station.
    So you think a commercial B777 owned by Malaysian Airlines would happen to have a piece of Rockwell military kit installed in it?

    And presumably a line of ground stations running from Malaysia north, West to the Andaman Sea and all the way down to the Indian Ocean. (Ground. Ocean. I want you to think about that).

    I'd ask your quack to up your meds, they simply aren't cutting it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    ^Thank you.

    So, you admit you cannot disprove the possibility or my points? It appears the "official report" also cannot dismiss the possibility.

    If so please "educate" me in your "perfect" English and illustrate it with your "generally understood"/"accepted" facts.

    I look forward to your reply.
    Can you disprove that it was miniaturised by space aliens and shoved up your arse?

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    ^ That was going to be my point. There are any number of looney theories and I am not obliged to disprove each and every one.

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    I agree with Harry's viewpoint.

    The report sustains the likelihood of Captain intervention, but cannot prove it. Therefore, it cannot disprove a third party. The level of in-cockpit intervention to carry out the tasks is basic and minimal. No need for a flight sim in the basement, even the back of a fag packet is overkill.

    Probability rests with the Captain done it. As discussed before: End of story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Can you disprove that it was miniaturised by space aliens
    Nope.

    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    d I am not obliged to disprove each and every one.
    You haven't the skill to prove or disprove anything.

    Quote Originally Posted by bobfish View Post
    Probability rests with the Captain done it.
    Such an expression suggests a tiredness of thought.

    But let us all pray were never on a plane that drops into the ocean, one dark night.

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