Thread: Contact lost with Malaysia Plane.

^ As above.
Just read on another site...The two stolen passport holders tickets, purchased at a tourist agency shop in Patter's!

Seems like they werent involved though .
Looks like they were just illegal immigrants, nothing to do with the plane going down

This is the expanded search area. The yellow circle is the search area for AF447 on the same scale. WTF do they think happened to this plane!?

The Air France flight that went missing over the Atlantic,it took two years to find the black box.

Something seriously STINKS about this investigation.

There are multiple long range radars in the area from bases & warships. Each logs their raw radar video for weeks. The raw radar "paint" data shows altitude trajectory

I was in the Royal Navy for 6 years. Airliners are the easiest thing in the planet to track. We used to see them 900 miles away, our raw paint used to correlate perfectly with the IFF transponder data.

This is not the south Atlantic. SE Asia is congested with lots of countries close by.. probably even a few warships in the area to.

Asian incompetence/retardness... or just lack of cooperation and national pride?

You also have the amateur trackers who have their own website that is free for anybody to look at.
Somebody did post this website on here a while back.
flightradar24.com

Originally Posted by ShrewedPunter

Something seriously STINKS about this investigation.

Agreed, something is being kept hidden for some reason or other. Why are they searching to the West on the map Harry has posted? There must be more to this than simple incompetence.

There's a big difference between the South Atlantic and the South China Sea....

Originally Posted by Fluke

She told the Financial Times she did not think Mr Ali, who paid her in cash and booked tickets with her regularly, was linked to terrorism.

"Mr. Financial Times" is a friend of mine.

Wondered where he was.

Originally Posted by Fluke

she did not think Mr Ali, who paid her in cash and booked tickets with her regularly, was linked to terrorism.

no of course not, he's far too busy with his benevolent charity work - sending underprivileged Africans on trips to Amsterdam .

probably the only map they had handy showing the sectors ,think they just made the search wider in right hand side .
How far do those black box's send signals , the seas only 40 m ? deep around there .

Austrian "phantom passenger" of missing Malaysia Airlines jet in first interview
Mar 11,2014
VIENNA, March 10 (Xinhua) -- Th 60-year old Austrian whose stolen passport caused him to be registered on seat number 26 of the missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 has given his first interview Monday.

Speaking to the Kronen Zeitung, Christian Kozel, a retired massage therapist living in the city of Salzburg said he was surprised to receive a knock on the door of his apartment on Saturday to find out it was the police.

Upon inquiring as to the nature of the visit, the police officer told Kozel he was glad he was well, and it was not until he checked the news on his smartphone that Kozel was aware that a plane had gone missing.

Shortly thereafter Kozel made the connection - he remembered having his passport stolen two years earlier at the Phuket International Airport in Thailand during a moment of inattention.

He had gone through considerably difficulty to procure an emergency passport and had a difficult trip back home to his native Austria, but had since all but forgotten about it until the incident Saturday, where reporters from TV and radio stations and newspapers from as far abroad as the USA had been looking for him.

Investigations into the individuals using the stolen passports of Kotzel and Italian national Luigi Maraldi are continuing.

Austrian "phantom passenger" of missing Malaysia Airlines jet in first interview | Shanghai Daily

60 years old ? wonder how old the imposter was ?
or do they just insert a fake page or something ..

Originally Posted by blue

60 years old ? wonder how old the imposter was ?
or do they just insert a fake page or something ..

Data page including photo.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

This is the expanded search area. The yellow circle is the search area for AF447 on the same scale. WTF do they think happened to this plane!?

There is some evidence that the AC made some kind of U turn. There is also a "suggestion" out of the US Aviation safety people, that the auto-pilot had been disengaged for reasons unknown, and that the crew became disoriented and continued to head off in another direction...way off course.

Again, it's all pure conjecture, but in the absence of any hard data, all possibilities have to be considered.....even the most unlikely ones.

A great deal of energy is being expended on trying to ID the stolen passport holders. They may or may not have had anything to do with the plane going down, but nobody knows, so it has to be put to rest one way or the other.

If we're not careful on this thread TD is going to surpass Thaivisa for pure bollocks....

Something that hasn't been covered, and probably won't, is the possibility that the airline is being blackmailed.

Hand over $ xxx or, guess what happens.

Originally Posted by koman

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

This is the expanded search area. The yellow circle is the search area for AF447 on the same scale. WTF do they think happened to this plane!?

There is some evidence that the AC made some kind of U turn. There is also a "suggestion" out of the US Aviation safety people, that the auto-pilot had been disengaged for reasons unknown, and that the crew became disoriented and continued to head off in another direction...way off course.

Again, it's all pure conjecture, but in the absence of any hard data, all possibilities have to be considered.....even the most unlikely ones.

A great deal of energy is being expended on trying to ID the stolen passport holders. They may or may not have had anything to do with the plane going down, but nobody knows, so it has to be put to rest one way or the other.

If we're not careful on this thread TD is going to surpass Thaivisa for pure bollocks....

Weird...now new search area......actually now remember was sitting out on veranda that night/morning looking south...watching what I thought was a blinking satellite....moving west to east fairly low on my horizon...it disappeared after about 3 mins in a cloudless sky....sorry just more irrelevant BS on my part ..strange that's all..

Originally Posted by Ronin

Originally Posted by ShrewedPunter

Something seriously STINKS about this investigation.

There are multiple long range radars in the area from bases & warships. Each logs their raw radar video for weeks. The raw radar "paint" data shows altitude trajectory

I was in the Royal Navy for 6 years. Airliners are the easiest thing in the planet to track. We used to see them 900 miles away, our raw paint used to correlate perfectly with the IFF transponder data.

This is not the south Atlantic. SE Asia is congested with lots of countries close by.. probably even a few warships in the area to.

Asian incompetence/retardness... or just lack of cooperation and national pride?

.......but it did take 5 days to find the wreckage of Air France 447. This incident was at night so maybe there wasn't much activity nearby plus reduced vision. Although I see what you mean: odd that were told the plane's last known position was over the sea and now they are searching land?

Radar works night and day..
Also Air france crashed literally in the middle of the Atlantic between Americas and Africa..

The Gulf of Thailand is a very cozy little area, with lots of bases, lots of radars constantly tracking and probably a few warships.

If it blew up the radar paint would have just disappeared

If it crash landed you'd be able to see the altitude gradually drop

Malaysia's air force chief said early Sunday that military radar indicated the missing jet may have turned back to Kuala Lumpur

May? these things are not ambiguous.. it either stayed on track or it turned around.. there's no may about it..

And they've indicated they're actually looking at military radar so surely they'd be able to ascertain if the thing flew 300miles west, across the country and into the Andaman sea

Latest is debris sighted by Cathay Crew HK to KL off the coast of Vietnam ......updated a few hours ago. 10 Chinese satellites being re-deployed to take a look!

Originally Posted by Koojo

Is it possible that having lost all communications for some reason, the thing turned back and crashed on land? I'm surprised by this time, and with so many searching, not one piece of flotsam has been found.
One speculation I've heard is that it possibly disintegrated at 35,000 feet which would mean wreckage would be sparse and widespread.

The US says no mid air explosion detected on their... ahem..".spy" satellites.....

Would there have been any tracking of a passengers mobile not switched off ?
There must a few on every flight.

The Air India flight that was destroyed by a bomb off the West coast of Ireland in 1985 was cruising at 31000 ft. The wreckage was being picked up by ships the same day....along with many bodies.

The bomb killed all 22 crew and 307 passengers. 132 bodies were recovered; 197 were lost at sea. Eight bodies exhibited "flail pattern" injuries, indicating that they had exited the aircraft before it hit the water. This was a sign that the airplane had broken up in mid-air. Twenty-six bodies showed signs of hypoxia (lack of oxygen). Twenty-five, mostly victims who were seated near windows, showed signs of explosive decompression. Twenty-three had signs of "injuries from a vertical force". Twenty-one passengers were found with little or no clothing.[68]

This incident seems to dispel the idea that a high altitude explosion or break up leaves little debris or bodies to be found in the general area......

I always thought Malaysians and Singaporeans were a bit weird and the way this investigation has been handled thus far just goes to confirm my suspicions. Very weird type of people, it's like two countries full of school hallway monitors.

They will be withholding stuff from relatives because of protocol and will not be thinking whatsoever about the ethical side of it. I mean these people do hang people for having weed !

I think China and the US need to step in here and taker over the investigation. As big a country as Malaysia thinks it is, it just isn't and I fear the success of this investigation is now being put in danger.

Originally Posted by Thormaturge

Originally Posted by blue

60 years old ? wonder how old the imposter was ?
or do they just insert a fake page or something ..

Data page including photo.

Depends on the passport or the needs of the person. Some just change the photo, some alter other details like date of birth. The more that is changed, the more likely the changes will be spotted.