Thread: Will the GOP Force a Govt Shutdown and/or Debt Default?

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Clearly, Obama forced the shutdown by refusing to negotiate.

Nothing to negotiate.

Originally Posted by sabang

Differentiate yourself between a kamikaze pilot and a modern day once, 'republican', booner. The joke is on you. If it were not for the fact that your pranks cost real people real money, I might even laugh at your ilk.

So let's see here...those non-essential workers laid off are going to 'cripple' the economy are they?

Seen what the Markets are doing, have you?

3 (THREE!!!) essential federal employees tying ‘Closed’ tape



Is this Obama regime pathetic or what?

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These bums are still getting paid while the some 800,000 federal employees that actually WORK are furloughed. Don't forget these jerkoffs next election and the idiot party that brought them to us.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Clearly, Obama forced the shutdown by refusing to negotiate.

Why the fuck should he? It is LAW already passed 4 years ago FFS! "We don't negotiate with TERRORIST'S".

a quick primer:

a CR is a continuing resolution....this needs to be passed by the house, senate and then signed by the president to fund the govt.

the republicans insist on adding a defund obamacare provision to the CR...and of course the senate won't pass it...so they keep sending it back to the house demanding that the CR be 'clean" without any additional add-ons.

but here's the thing....if a "clean" CR was brought to the house floor today, it would pass with both democrat and (rational) republican votes.

but speaker boehner is afraid of the lunatic fringe...aka the teabaggers....so he won't bring a vote for clean CR to the floor.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

So let's see here...those non-essential workers laid off are going to 'cripple' the economy are they?

Brilliant- a manifesto for the tea party. A hymn for patriotic amerkins. Glory glory hallelujah. The saints go marching out.
I'd like to ask non-essential patriotic veterans how they feel about this, and how it might effect their own and their childrens vote.
Starvation in the name of ones patriotic duty to Mammon. Listening to you types, I have a question- was there ever such a thing as America?

Originally Posted by raycarey

but speaker boehner is afraid of the lunatic fringe...aka the teabaggers....so he won't bring a vote for clean CR to the floor.

Not quite a year ago he got trounced by his own party when they voted down one of his proposals about an economic negotiation. Remember Plan B. Bohner walked out of the committee hearing almost in tears. Cantor walked out with a smirk.

I don't know how the Rules work, but if Bohner goes against the Talibans in his Party he could lose the Speakership. If he knew how to be a real American he'd bring a clean CR up for a vote, but he's a Gollum; afraid of losing the Ring Of Power.

Americans Think GOP's Top Priority Is Troublemaking


The two parties are portraying the stalemate over the federal budget and health reform as a titanic clash of principle, but a plurality of Americans believes that causing political problems for President Obama is now the GOP's top priority in Washington.


Americans Think GOP's Top Priority Is Troublemaking - NationalJournal.com


The Tea Party really is the American Taliban...
NYDN Front Page Sums Up What 74 Percent of Voters Are Thinking

The sheer chutzpah of paying themselves, while depriving essential funds to the government and rest of the country. I'd like to see their ugly heads on a pike.

House Now Has The Votes To End Government Shutdown, But It Won't

WASHINGTON -- Less than two days after the government shut down, there are now more than 17 Republicans who say they're ready to pass a bill to fund the government with no strings attached, giving the House the votes it needs to pass a clean funding bill.
All 200 Democrats would need to stick together and team up with those Republicans to pass the bill, but House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) would have to be willing to put it to a vote, which so far he has given no indication he will do. But if he does, the votes appear to be there. The Senate would pass the bill in no time, sending it to be signed by President Barack Obama and ending the shutdown.


Here's A Tally Of Which House Republicans Are Ready To Fund The Government, No Strings Attached

Boehner and Cruz will be eating plates of shit pretty soon. I hope they choke.

Originally Posted by Humbert

Boehner and Cruz will be eating plates of shit pretty soon.

Boontard thinks these are the new leaders of America!

Flounce coming in.....3...2...1...

It's come to this - pretty pathetic that's what the Democrat Party has become:

Democrats Pay Union Members to Protest World War II Vets.

You can’t make this stuff up: World War II veterans come to Washington to see their monument, and the Obama administration tries to block them by putting up barricades. When that blunder starts getting media attention, the administration doubles down by paying union members $15 to march around, waving signs and protesting–as though that were a sure-fire way to generate sympathy for the nonessential federal employees who are getting the day off. Is it possible that the Democrats could be snatching defeat from the jaws of victory?

And does that perhaps have something to do with Obama’s backing down on his vow not to talk with Congressional Republicans? Obama has now invited Congressional leaders to the White House for talks on ending the spending impasse.

McDonald's Employee Admits Being Paid $15 to Protest WW2 Vets

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=7BaF5ROfu0s

Clearly,the Blame For The Shutdown Rests With Harry Reid And The Democrats.

Hey, the GOP-controlled House keeps passing stuff, then the Democratic Senate kills it.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

And does that perhaps have something to do with Obama’s backing down on his vow not to talk with Congressional Republicans? Obama has now invited Congressional leaders to the White House for talks on ending the spending impasse.

They've released the minutes of the meeting.

Obama: "Will you stop being c**ts?"
Reps: "No"
Obama: "Well f*** off then".

Boontard lying through his dentures as usual.

NY Times:
Obama Sets Conditions for Talks: Pass Funding and Raise Debt Ceiling

WASHINGTON — In their first meeting since a budget impasse shuttered many federal operations, President Obama told Republican leaders on Wednesday that he would negotiate with them only after they agreed to the funding needed to reopen the government and also to an essential increase in the nation’s debt limit, without add-ons.

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Nice job, Democrats...

Katie Pavlich @KatiePavlich Maybe if the WWII vets offer to hold Obama's umbrella, they'll open the memorial.




This president is looking smaller and smaller as every day passes...

Originally Posted by raycarey

but speaker boehner is afraid of the lunatic fringe...aka the teabaggers....so he won't bring a vote for clean CR to the floor.

he is not afraid of those lunatics, he embrace them by being a devoted supporter

he is acting, like all Republicans

Boon, you need to stop smoking those mushrooms up in the NorthEast, this is not Vietnam

I understand you are playing your role as opposition, but you are actually NOT helping the opposition, au contraire

Bam!

Rep. Steve Stockman @SteveWorks4You Obama sent more protection to the World War II Memorial than he sent to Benghazi.

Disgusting but true

At the World War II Memorial on The Mall in Washington, where veterans have been staging protests to keep it open, Washington Examiner’s Charlie Spiering reports that at least seven officials were dispatched Wednesday morning to set up a ring of barricades to block tourists from the memorial. That is two more security officials than the State Department had in Benghazi a year ago on the night of the terrorist attack that killed four, including the U.S. ambassador.

Obama et al. evidently believe that it’s more important to protect war memorials from patriots than to protect patriots from slaughter.

Shutdown overreach: More personnel sent to WWII memorial than Benghazi; Park Service closes park it doesn't run | Mobile Washington Examiner

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Boon, you need to stop smoking those mushrooms up in the NorthEast, this is not Vietnam

I understand you are playing your role as opposition, but you are actually NOT helping the opposition, au contraire

Don't live in Issan but could use some of that good Khon Khan Krippler to get thru the rest of Bath House Barry's term in office though...

World baffled by America's self-inflicted wound



A perfect summary ... "A small band of extreme right-wing politicians couldn't win the debate, or the vote, or the legal argument over health care, so they decided to close down the government instead. A system that allows that to happen is dangerously flawed and in urgent need of repairs."

Opinion: World baffled by America's self-inflicted wound - CNN.com