Thread: Is Obama Trying to Destroy the USA?

USA is fucked.

The system is sick from the top down - both democrat and republican.

Two heads on the same snake America - you'll have to kill them both.

The following is modern day America - November 2013

It's a fucking embarrasment - grown men with guns and badges treating a mother and kids like that.

Couldn't even begin to imagine that happening in Thailand. Police would have smiled, talked to the family and given directions. Here - they ruined an entire families lives in a five minute period.

Shameful state of affairs.

Originally Posted by leemo

I'm so glad we have a nuke expert on this board. Many thanks.

Your total inability to rebut even one of my points is noted.

Any MINUTE NOW!

For those who are keeping track, here's the Israeli Chicken Little List WRT Iran and the Atomic bomba scare:


1984: West German intelligence sources claim that Iran's production of a bomb "is entering its final stages." US Senator Alan Cranston claims Iran is seven years away from making a weapon.

1992: Israeli parliamentarian Benjamin Netanyahu tells his colleagues that Iran is 3 to 5 years from being able to produce a nuclear weapon.

1995: The New York Times reports that US and Israeli officials fear "Iran is much closer to producing nuclear weapons than previously thought" - less than five years away. Netanyahu claims the time frame is three to five years.

1996: Israeli Prime Minister Shimon Peres claims Iran will have nuclear weapons in four years.

1998: Former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld claims Iran could build an ICBM capable of reaching the US within five years.

1999: An Israeli military official claims that Iran will have a nuclear weapon within five years.

2001: The Israeli Minister of Defence claims that Iran will be ready to launch a nuclear weapon in less than four years.

2002: The CIA warns that the danger of nuclear weapons from Iran is higher than during the Cold War, because its missile capability has grown more quickly than expected since 2000 - putting it on par with North Korea.

2003: A high-ranking Israeli military officer tells the Knesset that Iran will have the bomb by 2005 - 17 months away.

2006: A State Department official claims that Iran may be capable of building a nuclear weapon in 16 days.

2008: An Israeli general tells the Cabinet that Iran is "half-way" to enriching enough uranium to build a nuclear weapon and will have a working weapon no later than the end of 2010.

2009: Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak estimates that Iran is 6-18 months away from building an operative nuclear weapon.

2010: Israeli decision-makers believe that Iran is at most 1-3 years away from being able to assemble a nuclear weapon.

2011: IAEA report indicates that Iran could build a nuclear weapon within months.

2013: Israeli intelligence officials claim that Iran could have the bomb by 2015 or 2016

Iran is MINUTES AWAY from nuking EVERYONE!
Someone call the police squad!

/Keep banging that drum and fucking that chicken, neocons.

Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier

USA is fucked.

The system is sick from the top down - both democrat and republican.

Two heads on the same snake America - you'll have to kill them both.

The following is modern day America - November 2013

It's a fucking embarrasment - grown men with guns and badges treating a mother and kids like that.

Couldn't even begin to imagine that happening in Thailand. Police would have smiled, talked to the family and given directions. Here - they ruined an entire families lives in a five minute period.

Shameful state of affairs.

Unbelievable...

OK so driving off the first time was not the smartest thing to do, but bloody hell, they are charging her with child abuse?

The police were the ones putting the children in danger by smashing windows and firing shots. To suggest this was child abuse caused by the mother infers that the police had no choice in their actions.

This would only be the case if the police were of such limited IQ that they could not be expected to determine what was a reasonable and proportional use of force in response to the situation. It's a damning indictment on the quality of the New Mexico police force, as if the video footage is not enough.

I can't blame the mother for fleeing the second time around. Her family was being attacked by a growing pack of savages. She gave herself up in town where at least there was a chance of there being some witnesses.

It was certainly an educational trip for her family. What did they learn?

1) The police are not there to 'serve and protect' folks like them.
2) Doesn't matter if you are right or wrong, guns are a great way of having the final say in an argument.
3) Best they don't do family trips in their great country to see sights such as the Rio Grande as there's a strong possibility they will end up in jail, or worse still, dead.

Sorry, wanted to speak out on this one.

Back to Iran, Israel and bombs (although I can't help but feel the two stories are in some way linked by a common theme).

Originally Posted by quimbian corholla

Originally Posted by leemo

I'm so glad we have a nuke expert on this board. Many thanks.

Your total inability to rebut even one of my points is noted.

Any MINUTE NOW!

For those who are keeping track, here's the Israeli Chicken Little List WRT Iran and the Atomic bomba scare:


1984: West German intelligence sources claim that Iran's production of a bomb "is entering its final stages." US Senator Alan Cranston claims Iran is seven years away from making a weapon.

1992: Israeli parliamentarian Benjamin Netanyahu tells his colleagues that Iran is 3 to 5 years from being able to produce a nuclear weapon.

1995: The New York Times reports that US and Israeli officials fear "Iran is much closer to producing nuclear weapons than previously thought" - less than five years away. Netanyahu claims the time frame is three to five years.

1996: Israeli Prime Minister Shimon Peres claims Iran will have nuclear weapons in four years.

1998: Former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld claims Iran could build an ICBM capable of reaching the US within five years.

1999: An Israeli military official claims that Iran will have a nuclear weapon within five years.

2001: The Israeli Minister of Defence claims that Iran will be ready to launch a nuclear weapon in less than four years.

2002: The CIA warns that the danger of nuclear weapons from Iran is higher than during the Cold War, because its missile capability has grown more quickly than expected since 2000 - putting it on par with North Korea.

2003: A high-ranking Israeli military officer tells the Knesset that Iran will have the bomb by 2005 - 17 months away.

2006: A State Department official claims that Iran may be capable of building a nuclear weapon in 16 days.

2008: An Israeli general tells the Cabinet that Iran is "half-way" to enriching enough uranium to build a nuclear weapon and will have a working weapon no later than the end of 2010.

2009: Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak estimates that Iran is 6-18 months away from building an operative nuclear weapon.

2010: Israeli decision-makers believe that Iran is at most 1-3 years away from being able to assemble a nuclear weapon.

2011: IAEA report indicates that Iran could build a nuclear weapon within months.

2013: Israeli intelligence officials claim that Iran could have the bomb by 2015 or 2016

Iran is MINUTES AWAY from nuking EVERYONE!
Someone call the police squad!

/Keep banging that drum and fucking that chicken, neocons.

Iran is MINUTES AWAY from nuking EVERYONE!

Clueless as usual. Iran is not minutes or days from nuking anyone. Available intel does suggest, however, that Iran is in the process of developing a nuclear capability, and once that happens the best case scenario gives us blackmail on a scale that the world has yet to see.

Should this be allowed to happen, Saudi will follow in defence as will other states in a volatile region that's filled with Jihadists, or to you peaceful types that would use such a weapon without a second thought, in the name of Allah.

As for a deterence of retaliation, there is no such thing. Know again that the Iranian regime is ruled by ayatollahs, all of whom are 'twelvers'. Twelvers believe the mahdi is alive and dormant at the bottom of a well just outside of Tehran, and that he will not awaken until sufficient chaos spreads across the face of the world to cause him to rise up and once and for all defeat and destroy the infidel so that Allah's religion dominates and 'peace' spreads across the face of the planet.

It is also the Iranian regime's belief that they are destined to bring about such conditions, regardless of the cost in terms of human life since we all know Allah's world vision cannot be measured in such trifling terms.

Ftr, my own view is that the Son of Satan will be instrumental in allowing Iran to eventually have such a weapon, but of course that's ridiculous because according to them and gullible Leftist enablers such as your good self Iranian efforts are simply to fulfill their peaceful energy requirement.

Now, you try to explain (in coherent terms) why Iran should be allowed to pwn such weapons.

... and what does any of this have to do with Obama supposedly trying to destroy the USA???

Sorry, that happens when you have paranoid Jews in the thread. Every topic becomes either Iran nucular weapons, or Obama will bring 100 million Mooslims to Amerka.

Originally Posted by TonyBKK

... and what does any of this have to do with Obama supposedly trying to destroy the USA???

The USA would still be healthy and strong if Romney was in Big White instead of this Marxist empty chair:



The GOP presidential nominee saw a lot of what's plaguing Obama's second term coming.

Originally Posted by leemo

he will not awaken until sufficient chaos spreads across the face of the world to cause him to rise up and once and for all defeat and destroy the infidel so that Allah's religion dominates and 'peace' spreads across the face of the planet

All Hail the Messiah- every monotheistic religion has one. Why do djoo's, xtians & muzzies squabble so much over these inanities?

Originally Posted by bsnub

Originally Posted by leemo

But Ayatollah Khomenei is on record with, "Allah did not create man so that he could have fun. The aim of creation was for mankind to be put to the test through hardship and prayer. An Islamic regime must be serious in every field. There are no jokes in Islam. There is no humor in Islam. There is no fun in Islam. There can be no fun and joy in whatever is serious."

That pretty much sums it up.

Interesting you don't ask him for citations, probably because he says what you want to believe. Yet the facts are, Iran's constitution is is a copy of the French one, while Saudi Arabia's and Quatar's constitutions are the Koran. Iran is one of the most democratic countries in the Middle East, Saudi Arabia the most totalitarian. Yet the ally of Israel and the US is Saudi Arabia. I never heard of an Iranian terror attack or suicide bomber, while the remains of quite a few Saudi citizens are in the rubble of the WTC, others alive in the ranks of Al Queda. Yet their wealthy relatives and sponsors enjoy VIP status in the US. All very puzzling.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by TonyBKK

... and what does any of this have to do with Obama supposedly trying to destroy the USA???

The USA would still be healthy and strong if Romney was in Big White instead of this Marxist empty chair

Healthy and strong?! Ah, there you go re-writing history again. You seem to forget that when President Obama took office in 2008 that the US was headed into the worst recession the country has seen since the Great Depression. An economic collapse caused entirely by GW Bush and his unfunded illegal wars of aggression in the Middle East and the subprime mortgage and foreclosure fiasco that he helped to create.


In 2008, the final year of GW Bush's presidency, the stock market plunged 40%, wiping out tens of trillions of dollars in wealth while housing prices fell 20% nationwide wiping out trillions more.

President Obama was sworn into office in January 2009 and managed, with the "American Recovery and Reinvestment Act" signed into law in February 2009, to keep the US from sinking into another depression, but it will be a long time yet before the US fully recovers from the devastating recession caused by GW Bush.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

The USA would still be healthy and strong if Romney was in Big White instead of this Marxist empty chair:

The DOW just passed 16,000 for the first time, income inequality is worse in the USA than ever (think 3rd world levels) and corporate profits are at record highs. If Obama is a Marxist he's not very fucking good at it.

In many states, the recovery is making the income gap worse

Dow tops 16,000 for first time as Boeing surges | RealClear

You have just inadvertently proven that trickle down economics is total BS.