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    No matter how long he ends getting suspended he'll be back cause he's signed through 2017 and isn't going to leave 50,000,000 plus in guaranteed money on the table by not returning when the suspension is over. Besides that he's less than a 100 hits from 3000 and about 70 homers from 700 ... He'll be back.

    What's really unfair is the Yankees will be able to avoid the luxury taxes now and be able to go and sign younger players ... They are an aging team and were or will be a down team because of the salary cap and retaining aging players ... Many teams, players, coaches don't want Rodriguez to be punished too severely simply because they believe the Yankees should have to pay for being stupid enough to take on the huge ass contract in the first place.

    Bud Selig is an ass ... 100 game suspension should be tops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FailSafe View Post
    People that never played the game will never know how tough the act of hitting that little white ball can be- if you fail only seven out of ten times, you're a superstar. Baseball is extremely difficult and physical at the highest level- you need to be able to react instantly in the field as the ball comes at you in a hurry.

    Playing on artificial turf breaks players down after a while (especially their knees)- A-Rod was in physical decline, and the steroids helped extend his career
    Now here is a former baseball player.

    I played little leagues and the Babe Ruth leagues, the latter was high school competitive teams.

    I loved it

    It is a team sport, but highly individual. If you screw up, everybody knows it.

    As you know failsafe, we have to be ready at any instant. You never know when that ball will come flying at you.

    Before a hit may come to you, you have to know where the throw, if you can make a play. Or, you have to go for the second option. It happens in seconds.

    As for hitting, there is the curve ball, slider, breaking ball, change, knuckle, etc.

    When teenagers starting throwing the curve that is when my hitting slumped. Sometimes the curve did not curve or beak it came at my head.

    It is a game for the purist, in many ways.

    Great memories.
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    Yeah, I played through high school (I wasn't good enough to play in college) but I faced some pitchers that would eventually be drafted (though no one who made it all the way)- some of these kids could already throw mid/high eighties- it was like trying to hit a bullet (and almost as terrifying, as their control usually sucked- if one of those caught you in the ribs, you were in trouble). I was an outfielder, and I could always get a good jump on the ball, but I never had the quickness to play regularly in the infield (I'd play first base on occasion).

    Baseball is much more athletic than those who haven't played it give it credit for.

    If I lived in BKK, I'd be playing in a softball league (which is fun, but isn't even close to the same game as baseball as far as intensity in concerned).
    There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
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    I played as well. I had a coach that used to play for the Pirates organization. He would throw for batting practice sometimes and his curveball was scary. I almost wanted to hit the deck when it was coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    Big Fella, how far do they run in cricket?
    22 yds. OK is less than 90ft but they usually run past the wicket for a single so about the the same.

    For two runs they have to stop, not slide, then run back. So probably more strenuous.

    Baseball is a game of failure! If one bats 300 then one has hit 3 balls out of ten so only a 30% average but still a big star! Oh and they cant catch very well, so have to wear a giant glove!

    A lot of baseball players are as svelte as a local Thai policeman.
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    ^^

    Baseball is a game of extreme difficulty- there's a difference between that and 'failure'. Also note that simply hitting a ball is no guarantee of success either.

    As far as needing a glove goes, not many of these plays could be made without one (though there are a couple done bare-handed):


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    ^ Way to take the high ground. I love the sound of a solidly hit baseball.

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    ^Yeah... but never forget. High road or not, they really are assclowns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Storekeeper View Post
    No matter how long he ends getting suspended he'll be back cause he's signed through 2017 and isn't going to leave 50,000,000 plus in guaranteed money on the table by not returning when the suspension is over. Besides that he's less than a 100 hits from 3000 and about 70 homers from 700 ... He'll be back.

    What's really unfair is the Yankees will be able to avoid the luxury taxes now and be able to go and sign younger players ... They are an aging team and were or will be a down team because of the salary cap and retaining aging players ... Many teams, players, coaches don't want Rodriguez to be punished too severely simply because they believe the Yankees should have to pay for being stupid enough to take on the huge ass contract in the first place.

    Bud Selig is an ass ... 100 game suspension should be tops.
    Good info. And I suppose the 200+ game suspension was to "send a message."

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbaro View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Storekeeper View Post
    No matter how long he ends getting suspended he'll be back cause he's signed through 2017 and isn't going to leave 50,000,000 plus in guaranteed money on the table by not returning when the suspension is over. Besides that he's less than a 100 hits from 3000 and about 70 homers from 700 ... He'll be back.

    What's really unfair is the Yankees will be able to avoid the luxury taxes now and be able to go and sign younger players ... They are an aging team and were or will be a down team because of the salary cap and retaining aging players ... Many teams, players, coaches don't want Rodriguez to be punished too severely simply because they believe the Yankees should have to pay for being stupid enough to take on the huge ass contract in the first place.

    Bud Selig is an ass ... 100 game suspension should be tops.
    Good info. And I suppose the 200+ game suspension was to "send a message."
    I guess. I just doubt A-Rod is going to walk away from all that money. I think the Yankees would like to dump him but what team is gonna take on that contract?

    If he could be counted on to hit 30-35 homers a year and drive in 80-90 RBIs then some American League team might pick up the contract and make him a DH. Doubt if it would be the Mariners though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    ..... You posted "I was watching Fox this morning" enough said.
    Fox got it right as they usually do because they are one of the few "news" sites that actually report and cover the facts....

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    ^ Way to take the high ground. I love the sound of a solidly hit baseball.

    totally agree. what a great collection of fine baseball plays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Storekeeper View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Storekeeper View Post
    No matter how long he ends getting suspended he'll be back cause he's signed through 2017 and isn't going to leave 50,000,000 plus in guaranteed money on the table by not returning when the suspension is over. Besides that he's less than a 100 hits from 3000 and about 70 homers from 700 ... He'll be back.

    What's really unfair is the Yankees will be able to avoid the luxury taxes now and be able to go and sign younger players ... They are an aging team and were or will be a down team because of the salary cap and retaining aging players ... Many teams, players, coaches don't want Rodriguez to be punished too severely simply because they believe the Yankees should have to pay for being stupid enough to take on the huge ass contract in the first place.

    Bud Selig is an ass ... 100 game suspension should be tops.
    Good info. And I suppose the 200+ game suspension was to "send a message."
    I guess. I just doubt A-Rod is going to walk away from all that money. I think the Yankees would like to dump him but what team is gonna take on that contract?

    If he could be counted on to hit 30-35 homers a year and drive in 80-90 RBIs then some American League team might pick up the contract and make him a DH.
    Doubt if it would be the Mariners though.
    I do not think any team in MLB would take his contract. He is past his prime, and he is not popular. Aside the the money and his numbers, there would be lots of criticism to any GM / that would take A-Rod now. He is not well liked (not that I care, and I don't follow the specifics of this kind of stuff).

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    The Yankees will almost certainly dump him- a new team won't necessarily have to pay his entire contract- the Yankees might end up paying a substantial portion of it even if he's traded (which isn't uncommon- if you saw or read 'Moneyball' there's a reference to the Yankees paying a substantial part of David Justice's salary when he was playing for the A's- they just wanted him gone and ate several million of it after trading him).

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    Quote Originally Posted by VocalNeal View Post

    A cricket match is one of the best places to get alcohol on demand.
    And catch up on a well-deserved nap...

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    Here is the interview of A-Rod lying about never taking steroids.

    We all lie. If I was in that position, I would have lied to (and we know about Armstrong and several others who have lied about to later admit they did).




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    Quote Originally Posted by FailSafe View Post
    The Yankees will almost certainly dump him- a new team won't necessarily have to pay his entire contract- the Yankees might end up paying a substantial portion of it even if he's traded (which isn't uncommon- if you saw or read 'Moneyball' there's a reference to the Yankees paying a substantial part of David Justice's salary when he was playing for the A's- they just wanted him gone and ate several million of it after trading him).
    You're right. Totally forgot about that option. Most likely still an AL team though I would think.

    Who needs a DH and back up SS/3rd baseman? Too early to tell I suppose since we're looking at 2015.

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    I agree DH will probably be his best (or only) option- he'll turn 40 in 2015, and he's already got a bad knee- there's no way he can play in the NL.

    He'll need to play somewhere next year to stay sharp- maybe in Japan or Latin America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by VocalNeal View Post

    A cricket match is one of the best places to get alcohol on demand.
    And catch up on a well-deserved nap...
    Lol. The game can last for 5 days and still end in a draw. Anathema most US sports fans, I imagine.

    Although games of baseball seem to go on for a looooong time as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FailSafe View Post
    ^

    I agree DH will probably be his best (or only) option- he'll turn 40 in 2015, and he's already got a bad knee- there's no way he can play in the NL.

    He'll need to play somewhere next year to stay sharp- maybe in Japan or Latin America.
    He is still playing while appealing his suspension. I assume that the suspension will be upheld and he'll be eligible to return sometime during the 2015 season. The appeal is delaying the suspension and therefore when he'll be able to return.

    If he wants to chase numbers to immortalize his name with an asterisk for the record books he can be DH if his bat speed and hitting will still be there.

    Or, just retire.

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    He's hoping to get it knocked down by 50-100 games (I won't be surprised to see the suspension lowered to ~150 games if he really comes clean and acts contrite)- I agree he should just retire and end it, but it's SO much money... At 28mil per year, he gets nearly 175K per game- even if he can get only a reduction of 10 games from the 211 games he's been penalized, it's very substantial.

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    The get away lightly in this sport. In the olympic sports, it's 2 years off. Cyclist Ricardo Ricco, a repeat offender like Rodriguez was suspended for 12 years the second time. Time to look for a different career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FailSafe View Post
    ^

    He's hoping to get it knocked down by 50-100 games (I won't be surprised to see the suspension lowered to ~150 games if he really comes clean and acts contrite)- I agree he should just retire and end it, but it's SO much money... At 28mil per year, he gets nearly 175K per game- even if he can get only a reduction of 10 games from the 211 games he's been penalized, it's very substantial.
    Do you know when the appeal will be decided? (You know a lot more about the game than I do.) In Asia for so many years sports in the US became to cumbersome to follow for me, and even then, I would have to read about it only, as watching it is too difficult.

    Yes, it's a lot of money.

    A-rod finished his $250 million contract with Texas in early 2000s that was taken over by the Yankees.

    I assume A-Rod's net worth with contracts and endorsements is already 200+ million.

    Any more money made by him will be for the charities he leaves it to before or after he dies, I presume. Or, community or business ventures.

    And yeah Rainfall, cycling hands down some pretty severe penalties.

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    The Players Association just formally filed his appeal- according to an ESPN article, an independent arbitrator probably won't make a ruling until November or December at the earliest, so he'll play out the rest of this season.

    Alex Rodriguez formally files appeal of MLB doping suspension - ESPN New York

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