well put up the abridged version. I am afriad if I watch it all I will be forced to hunt talfer mao down and stick a 500 lb white phosphorus bomb in his japseye. Might do that anyway,.
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well put up the abridged version. I am afriad if I watch it all I will be forced to hunt talfer mao down and stick a 500 lb white phosphorus bomb in his japseye. Might do that anyway,.
Anyway that thread I made got deleted. Don't know why, don't really care. But TD is really going to the shit without the iron fist or the dawg around.
6 hours is abridged already. You can't solve the mysteries of the universe in a 3 minute youtube clip.
Much more to all this than Star Trek, besides bad English, you can not boldly go, you have to go boldly, I think.
Anyway the physics are there for warping space, power regiured will outside our capabilities.
Yet there are other possibles, most now agree on 11 physical dimensions, there is also resonance, All things resonant in unison, change the resonance and it, you would no longer be in this universe.
Not SiFi, but things that make computers and the internet work. Worlds not far away from quantum computers, if they don't already have them in a secure bunker some where.
Then things will really speed up change and most of the world will really be left behind. jim
What do you mean most people? Even the originators of the 11 dimension theory can't agree with each other. It does go some way to explaining the singularity paradoxes in the universe, such as the very first instance of the big bang.Quote:
Originally Posted by jamescollister
Anyway I can talk to anyone about this who hasn't already watched all 6 hours of 'zero point'. That shit needs to be assumed knowledge.
Have no farang TV and 6 hours of down load video would take 6 months out here. So have no idea what zero point is. JimQuote:
Originally Posted by 9999
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Originally Posted by jamescollister
LSD will helpQuote:
Originally Posted by jamescollister
^^ If you can't stream youtube then the puzzles of the universe will remain a mystery to you.
I don't suggest it, but believe interstellar travel is not possible, let alone feasible. Yeah, a generation ship. I wouldn't want to spend my life in a tin, and what are the changes that the thing arrives at its destination 500 years later? No technology lasts this long without breaking. The crew breaks down long before that.Quote:
Originally Posted by pseudolus
Let's assume a miracle happens and the settlers arrive at new earth. If it's not extraordinarily close to the conditions on earth, humans can't live there. Temperature, gravity and athmospheric pressure much the same, if not there can't be liquid water. It boils at 69 degrees on Mount Everest. No or a weaker magnetic field means the surface is bombarded with hard rays, destroying life rapidly. No moon the size of ours means the planet can't have a stable axis but the tilt is changing all over the place. Remember that the temperatures on earth vary by 150 degrees Celsius, and now imagine what would happen if it rolled over and exposed England to -80 degrees.
Ok there is an earth copy in reach of 100 light years or so, utterly unlikely, just for the sake of argument. With an old biosphere of its own. We and our animal predecessors evolved coexistence with all other life for billions of years here, but what to do about virae, bacteria, or just a little different proteins on other planets? A human setting foot on another living planet and opening his visor is doomed, dead within hours.
So don't take off your visor. Simple.Quote:
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Sounds like a heck of a life spend in a hazmat suit and gas mask. Thank you, I'll stay on earth.
I don't know about all this aliens shit....
but we sure never went to the moon! :)
I also like them green bitches Captain Kirk nailed!
I'd happily spend the rest of my life behind a visor if it meant exploring new worlds.
rainfall, dude, why do you suppose that you would have to spend life in a tin can? Did you read the article I posted up?
200 years ago people such as yourself would have been saying "People fly in the sky and get to the other side of the world in a day? no chance. Can never happen" and yet all we knew then was shattered in terms of engineering etc
Also why do you think this is the case?Why is it impossible to believe that is life grew on earth that there is not a similar planet in the universe somewhere?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rainfall
I reckon alien life look at us as we do ant colonies. A little bit interesting, but hardly worth spending huge amounts of time on.
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amous UFO Sightings - Long Island New York UFO
The following is a transcript of the communications between 2 flights, Lufthansa 405, British Airways 226 and the FAA regarding a UFO. These events occurred on November 17, 1995 around 10:20pm ET. At one point, the FAA contacts the military (Giant Killer) to see if they have anything flying in the area.
Audio RecordingLUFT: Uh, Boston, Lufthansa 405/Heavy.
FAA: Lufthansa 405, go ahead.
LUFT: Uh, we just passed traffic on the left wing, uh, about 2,000 to 3,000 feet above us. What traffic was it?
FAA Is this Lufthansa 405?
LUFT: Affirmative, Lufthansa 405. We had opposite traffic on the left wing. Can you confirm this?
FAA: Lufthansa 405, negative. I show no traffic in your area within, uh, 20 or 30 miles.
LUFT: It should be now on our tail, about 10 miles... We passed it just one minute ago, and it was looking strange.
BRIT: Speed Bird 226 confirms that. It was just above us on our left-hand side about 3 minutes ago.
FAA What altitude does it appear to be at, Lufthansa 405?
LUFT: It was only 2 or 3 thousand feet above us. We are now passing (Flight) Level 260. That's confirmed, or not? Lufthansa.
FAA: Lufthansa 405, roger.
BRIT: Speed Bird 226, we confirm that. We had something go past us about two, well...about one to two thousand feet above on the left hand side. Uh, looked like a green trail on it, and a very bright light on the front of it. We assumed it was an opposite traffic.
FAA: Speed Bird 226, roger that.
LUFT: ((Garbled))..Lufthansa 405/Heavy. we are right now about 26 miles east of "Hotel Tango Oscar ((Hampton??))." And the Speed Bird is now ahead, or behind us ((or where))?
FAA: Lufthansa 405, the Speed Bird is in your 12:00 o'clock, and about 30 miles, 40 miles.
LUFT: That was not our traffic. Lufthansa 405 Heavy.
FAA: Lufthansa 405, roger. And the heading of the traffic, was it the same direction, or opposite direction?
LUFT: Exactly opposite. Lufthansa 405/Heavy.
FAA: Roger. Did it pass off your right side?
LUFT: Uh, left side.
FAA: Roger.
BRIT: Yea, Speed Bird 226 confirms that. We saw the same thing. It certainly looked like an aircraft initially, but it may not have been one.
LUFT: ((We can't tell then??)) It was looking very strange, with a long, uh, light, in the tail.
BRIT: Yea, a big bright white light on the front, and a greenish tail coming out the back.
LUFT: Can you confirm this, Lufthansa 405/Heavy.
FAA: OK, Lufthansa 405, Speed Bird 226. Thanks, we'll look into it.
??? ((Garbled transmissions))
FAA: Speed Bird 226, did it go over...did it go overhead. The traffic go overhead you, or was it below you?
BRIT: It was overhead and off to the left, much the same as ((garbled)). It actually looked about...opposite traffic, 2000 feet above. That's what it initially looked like. But then it did have a very strong trail to it...a vapor trail, which looked more like smoke. And the light on the front was very, very bright, and as it went past us, it seemed to ((just?)) disappear and ((went)) 5 miles behind us.
FAA: Speed Bird, 226, roger. Were you level at 29 at that time?
BRIT: Yea, affirmative.
FAA: Roger. Lufthansa 405, how far off to your side did that pass, the traffic pass?
LUFT: It was pretty close, and like Speed Bird said, it looked like ((four??)) or three thousand feet above on the left wing, just one mile and, uh, on opposite track... It doesn't have, ...it didn't have any uh, lights...((normal)) lights, beacon lights, or red or green lights. Only a white light in the front, and with a long green light. It looked like a U-F-O.
FAA: Lufthansa 405, roger that. Like I said, we had nothing flying in the area. You are just north of a military operating area, but the traffic shouldn't have varied out that far out,...out of the area.
LUFT: Must have been a military. Lufthansa 405/Heavy.
FAA: Roger. Giant Killer, ((garbled)) 59.
GK: Giant Killer.
FAA: Hey, you got anything flying out in the area?
GK: Negative, ((105 is??)) turned over. 0300.
FAA: Well, I just received a couple of UFO reports.
GK: Oh, is that right?
FAA? Yea, I had a couple of guys that reported lights, just moved all over their heads. I have no traffic whatsoever in the area. They said it passed within a mile of them, like at 2-3 thousand feet above them, opposite direction. ((Garbled)) green trail out the back.
GK: It could have been a meteor, or something.
FAA: ((Garbled--Yea, it could have been that.....it passed within a mile of them.))
GK: Who reported that?
FAA: Well, I got Speed Bird and Lufthansa.
GK: No, we don't have any aircraft out there.
FAA: OK.
There is a similar planet somewhere, but no way to get there. 200 years ago, people looked at birds and wondered how they do this, flying? Hot Air and Hydrogen baloons had be invented already. Long-distance space travel is a different animal, we have no example that it is possible. Some people see UFOs of course, but there has been a sharp decline of sightings.Quote:
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UFO enthusiasts admit the truth may not be out there after all - Telegraph
"UFO enthusiasts admit the truth may not be out there after all. Declining numbers of “flying saucer” sightings and failure to establish proof of alien existence has led UFO enthusiasts to admit they might not exist after all.
For decades, they have been scanning the skies for signs of alien activity.
But having failed to establish any evidence for the existence of extraterrestrial life, Britain’s UFO watchers are reaching the conclusion that the truth might not be out there after all.
Enthusiasts admit that a continued failure to provide proof and a decline in the number of “flying saucer” sightings suggests that aliens do not exist after all and could mean the end of “Ufology” – the study of UFOs – within the next decade.
Dozens of groups interested in the flying saucers and other unidentified craft have already closed because of lack of interest and next week one of the country’s foremost organisations involved in UFO research is holding a conference to discuss whether the subject has any future.
Dave Wood, chairman of the Association for the Scientific Study of Anomalous Phenomena (Assap), said the meeting had been called to address the crisis in the subject and see if UFOs were a thing of the past.
“It is certainly a possibility that in ten years time, it will be a dead subject,” he added. “We look at these things on the balance of probabilities and this area of study has been ongoing for many decades.
“The lack of compelling evidence beyond the pure anecdotal suggests that on the balance of probabilities that nothing is out there.
“I think that any UFO researcher would tell you that 98 per cent of sightings that happen are very easily explainable. One of the conclusions to draw from that is that perhaps there isn’t anything there. The days of compelling eyewitness sightings seem to be over.”
He said that far from leading to an increase in UFO sightings and research, the advent of the internet had coincided with a decline.
Assap’s UFO cases have dropped by 96 per cent since 1988, while the number of other groups involved in UFO research has fallen from well over 100 in the 1990s to around 30 now.
Among those to have closed are the British Flying Saucer Bureau, the Northern UFO Network, and the Northern Anomalies Research Organisation.
As well as a fall in sightings and lack of proof, Mr Wood said the lack of new developments meant that the main focus for the dwindling numbers of enthusiasts was supposed UFO encounters that took place several decades ago and conspiracy theories that surround them.
In particular, he cited the Roswell incident, in 1947 when an alien spaceship is said to have crashed in New Mexico, and the Rendlesham incident in 1980, often described as the British equivalent, when airmen from a US airbase in Suffolk reported a spaceship landing.
Mr Wood added: “When you go to UFO conferences it is mainly people going over these old cases, rather than bringing new ones to the fore.
“There is a trend where a large proportion of UFO studies are tending towards conspiracy theories, which I don’t think is particularly helpful.”
The issue is to be debated at a summit at the University of Worcester on November 17 and the conclusions reported in the next edition of the association’s journal, Anomaly.
The organisation, which describes itself as an education and research charity, was established in 1981. Its first president was Michael Bentine, the comedian and member of the Goons.
It contains both sceptics and believers in UFOs and has been involved in several notable sightings and theories over the years.
Its current president Lionel Fanthorpe has claimed in its journal that King Arthur was an alien who came to Earth to save humans from invading extraterrestrials.
The summit follows the emergence earlier this year of the news that the Ministry of Defence was no longer investigating UFO sightings after ruling there is “no evidence” they pose a threat to the UK.
David Clark, a Sheffield Hallam University academic and the UFO adviser to the National Archives, said: “The subject is dead in that no one is seeing anything
evidential.
“Look at all the people who now have personal cameras. If there was something flying around that was a structured object from somewhere else, you would have thought that someone would have come up with some convincing footage by now – but they haven’t.
“The reason why nothing is going on is because of the internet. If something happens now, the internet is there to help people get to the bottom of it and find an explanation.
“Before then, you had to send letters to people, who wouldn’t respond and you got this element of mystery and secrecy that means things were not explained.
“The classic cases like Roswell and Rendlesham are only classic cases because they were not investigated properly at the time.”
But Nick Pope, who ran the MoD’s UFO desk from 1991 to 1994 and now researches UFO sightings privately, said there was a future for the subject: “There’s a quantity versus quality issue here.
“So many UFO sightings these days are attributable to Chinese lanterns that more interesting sightings are sometimes overlooked.
“The same is true with photos and videos. There are so many fakes on YouTube and elsewhere, it would be easy to dismiss the whole subject out of hand.
“The danger is that we throw out the baby with the bathwater. And as I used to say at the MoD, the believers only have to be right once.”
There is compelling evidence however that the Nazis built flying saucers, and still maintain a secret base on Antartica. :kma:
Third Reich - Operation UFO (Nazi Base In Antarctica) Complete Documentary - YouTube
There you go -corrected that for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rainfall
The famous and well-documented cases of UFO sightings show beyond doubt that SOMETHING is being seen by credible people. It just remains to be seen what they are.
Here's another 7 hours of youtoobery that will give you all the answers...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzytGJh9cBY
its interesting, between around 10:00 to 12:00 he describes how it "all of a sudden" poured into his mind...
thats basically what many "prophets" describe(d) as sort of "enlightenment", but most likely its a sort of psychosis...? however, its a good example how powerful the human brain "acts", that we dont have a fucking clue, what really drives it and when, and - that there is no "free will"... it can hit everyone anytime...
:rofl: yes David Icke is a crack up. He does make a few valid points though. I suppose if you crap on for so long your bound to say something that makes sense eh.Quote:
Originally Posted by alitongkat
i quite like him... :) he is honest...
ha, yeah, that's the scary thing. He's no sheister. He is genuinely right behind what he's saying.Quote:
Originally Posted by alitongkat