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    He makes a good case why the left should be armed.

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    I don't recall any reticence in the US at labelling Obama a socialist, born in Kenya, having a fake birth certificate, 'hating America' etc. Heck, even pres candidate the donald was hawking it, and Fox news dutifully carried most of the dirt. That's even ignoring the blogosphere.

    You don't reckon there were some, like, racial undertones there Rick? If Obamas name and background were Barry White, d'ya reckon presidential candidates would still accuse him of faking his birth certificate?

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    I just finished reading the Cormat McCarthy "No Country for Old Men", what a brilliant yet dire social commentary of US society. Talk about social terrorism jeezers, it's a must read and a real page turner. I got it on the kindle if anyone wants it I can email ot PM.

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    ^ I thought that was just about a guy taking some drug runners money and the chase to get it back...Tommy lee Jones...fooled me...social terrorism huh, who woulda thunk it?

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    I'm absolutely terrified of online petitions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickThai View Post

    I first noticed this back in the 1970s when a Presidential pardon was given to all the "draft dodgers" who fled to Canada instead of reporting for military service. People were starting to learn that, regardless of the law, if you can get enough people to support something, politicians will bend to their will in order to stay in office.
    Isn't that basically Democracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alwarner View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by RickThai View Post

    I first noticed this back in the 1970s when a Presidential pardon was given to all the "draft dodgers" who fled to Canada instead of reporting for military service. People were starting to learn that, regardless of the law, if you can get enough people to support something, politicians will bend to their will in order to stay in office.
    Isn't that basically Democracy.
    That is the theory. But as the recent Gun Control legislation showed, they will also bend to NRA payments.

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    Screaming loudly to get their way is something people, groups and even nation states have done for a loooong time. Think of the suffragette movement from 100 years ago, the Civil Rights movement from 50 years ago, and all the blustering and sanctions emanating from the United Nations in New York. Why? So they could get their way. Seems to be a common technique from playgrounds to parliaments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hazz View Post
    Thats right those people queuing to get into the restaurant must be social terrorists as they are inconveniencing you until their get their demands, a table and some food. Fuck you right, terrorists, send them to gwatonomo for a good waterboarding.

    Tell me you are related to the moron who decided that hand grenades... hell decent fireworks are weapons of mass destruction.... because the two of you defiantly think a like.

    Americans..... amusingly paranoid.

    Rick, that thing you call terrorism.... its not... its simply disagreeing with you and thinking that you are a complete tool. fortunately, despite your and your fellow travelers best efforts, there are quite a few bits of the US constitution that protect the nation form lunatics like you.... should they actually get handed the keys.
    hazz,

    I don't know what kind of drugs you have been taking, but I would seriously recommend that you stop. Your posts are so fragmented that it is hard to understand your premises (if any). Slow down and take a deep breath.

    The US constitution, which states "the rights of the citizens to bear arms", also allows "free speech" (which leftists try to oppress when it comes to views counter to their agendas), "social terrorism" is using "threats of trouble" to prevent others from exercising their constitutional rights and influence government agencies from enforcing the law (as long as the law is something the "social terrorists" don't agree with).

    Perhaps, this concept is too complicated for you to understand, or one you would rather not see presented.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by alwarner View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by RickThai View Post

    I first noticed this back in the 1970s when a Presidential pardon was given to all the "draft dodgers" who fled to Canada instead of reporting for military service. People were starting to learn that, regardless of the law, if you can get enough people to support something, politicians will bend to their will in order to stay in office.
    Isn't that basically Democracy.
    That is the theory. But as the recent Gun Control legislation showed, they will also bend to NRA payments.
    I thought Democracy meant you voted in order to influence legislators to change the laws, not just selectively ignore them. No wonder children have no respect for laws; they learn from their parents; and when a US President deliberately commits felony perjury and gets away with it ("because I could" stated Clinton in an auto-biography), you have a society where "might makes right".

    Perhaps this is just evolution at work, and like all civilizations, they rise and fall.

    Maybe it is China's time to be the only superpower in the world. My guess is the "progressives" will be the first group to be eliminated since they don't seem to serve any useful purpose.

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    That's why you are a lunatic, Rick. Because you suggest the BJ Clinton received is worse than the wars started by his idiotic successor, taking more than a million lives, and upsetting the lives of many more millions. Please use your gun on yourself, and rid the world of an evil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainfall View Post
    That's why you are a lunatic, Rick. Because you suggest the BJ Clinton received is worse than the wars started by his idiotic successor, taking more than a million lives, and upsetting the lives of many more millions. Please use your gun on yourself, and rid the world of an evil.
    I am talking about an individual in the highest position of public trust in the US, an educated person with a law degree, who deliberately committed a felony in an attempt to cover up his moral misconduct. These are documented facts.

    This has nothing to do with the Gulf War or the war in Afghanistan, both of which received bipartisan Congressional support. And for the Afghanistan war, let's not forget Obama's continued support for that conflict.


    As in regards to my sanity, at least I can distinguish one statement from another, without confusing them with something else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    I don't recall any reticence in the US at labelling Obama a socialist, born in Kenya, having a fake birth certificate, 'hating America' etc. Heck, even pres candidate the donald was hawking it, and Fox news dutifully carried most of the dirt. That's even ignoring the blogosphere.

    You don't reckon there were some, like, racial undertones there Rick? If Obamas name and background were Barry White, d'ya reckon presidential candidates would still accuse him of faking his birth certificate?
    Not sure what "race" has to do with being labeled a socialist, or being born outside of the US (which makes it illegal for him to run for president). There was also a lot of questions concerning his "Islamic" background (again religious not racial) and his connections with his current religious mentor (a self-avowed racist who hated Caucasians).

    Seeing how his natural father was Islamic, his step-father was Islamic, and he went to an Islamic school, it would have been criminal not to question his motives, in an era where thousands of US citizens were being killed by Islamic extremists.

    If he were Barry White, he probably would have been elected with 95% of the popular vote (and no, no one would have any reason to question his country of birth).

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickThai
    "social terrorism" is using "threats of trouble" to prevent others from exercising their constitutional rights and influence government agencies
    Such as the NRA, using 'threats of trouble' to Congressman to get their way, and thus defy the will of 90% of the US population?

    Yes, I think you defined social terrorism pretty well there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickThai
    There was also a lot of questions concerning his "Islamic" background (again religious not racial) and his connections with his current religious mentor (a self-avowed racist who hated Caucasians).
    Right, so you thought the fact he had a 'racist Christian pastor' made him a Moslem? Now that's a strange one.
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    he went to an Islamic school
    No, he didn't- he went to an International School in Indonesia, like most expat kids do. It is still an International school to this day, Hey, d'ya think if he were Barry White the rw blogosphere would still be spreading this myth that it was a Madrassa?

    Lets face it rick, all you are espousing is a combination of your politics, with a dash of 'poor pity me' attitude. Bleedin' heart libbies do the same thing. Naturally, those who don't think or vote like you must be brainwashed. Now gimme a handout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickThai
    "social terrorism" is using "threats of trouble" to prevent others from exercising their constitutional rights and influence government agencies from enforcing the law
    Are anit-abortion people who stand in front "make trouble" in front of abortion clinics "social terrorists".

    Are gun nuts who wear their AK 47s around their neck at rallies social terrorists?

    Are State Legislators who vote to make it more difficult to vote social terrorists?

    Do you think these things through...or is this just a wheel-spinner to avoid the real world?

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    The American political and advocacy tradition comes from the fairground barkers soapbox, rather than the gentlemans club. I could never imagine a 'tea party' in Britain. When the 'other side' spruiks and advocates, that is social terrorism. When the 'other side' wins, that is brainwashing. Or so goes the latter day right wing spiel- but maybe that has something to do with being on the losing side, after a long run of republican Potus interrupted only by Clinton. (p.s- better get used to it)

    Get a grip- the people that determine elections are the middle ground, the swinging vote. They are not brainwashed, and they are not welfare cases (who don't vote much at all).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ltnt View Post
    ^ I thought that was just about a guy taking some drug runners money and the chase to get it back...Tommy lee Jones...fooled me...social terrorism huh, who woulda thunk it?
    yea the social terrorism angle doesn't come through very much in the movie. The book is an absolutely brilliant read and gives some real depth to the characters which therein lies the terror.
    I'd say Cormat McCarthy is the greatest contemporary American writer. All the other books I've read by him are brilliantly dark and horrific; Blood Meridian and The Road. His most famous novel All the Pretty Horses should not be missed either, but it's lightweight compared to the others.
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    Blood Meridian is undoubtedly brilliant, but, it's fucking gruesome. A really hard read.

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    ^^-^Not into gruesome, but I enjoyed the flick. I was thinking there might be a follow-up?

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    Not as far as I know. The film is quite faithful to the book in terms of the plot, but, there are big parts that are just Tommy Lee Jones' thoughts. They aren't really featured in much detail in the film. It's definitely worth a read though.

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    ^I'll keep a look out for it in the book stores, but unlikely to be found here. thanks for the info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ltnt View Post
    ^^-^Not into gruesome, but I enjoyed the flick. I was thinking there might be a follow-up?
    I'll admit the gruesome was tough but his writing is nothing short of stunningly brilliant. If you like good writing he's not to be missed. He's gotta be the American Victor Hugo who is arguably one of the best writers ever, but you need to be able to read French to make the distinction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrG View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by RickThai
    "social terrorism" is using "threats of trouble" to prevent others from exercising their constitutional rights and influence government agencies from enforcing the law
    Are anit-abortion people who stand in front "make trouble" in front of abortion clinics "social terrorists".

    Are gun nuts who wear their AK 47s around their neck at rallies social terrorists?

    Are State Legislators who vote to make it more difficult to vote social terrorists?

    Do you think these things through...or is this just a wheel-spinner to avoid the real world?
    I'll try to answer your questions (from my perspective).

    Yes, blocking access to abortion clinics (or blowing them up) is a form of "social terrorism". The conservatives I know do not support that kind of behavior. While "conservative" agendas do occasionally result in "social terrorism" it is generally performed by a small group of extremists and is nowhere near the scale of "progressive" agenda supporters.

    Not, if they are attending a rally that has a permit.

    By making it "more difficult to vote", I assume you mean requiring voters to prove they can "legally" vote. No, that is not social terrorism, that is Legislators doing their job by introducing a bill that helps prevent voter fraud. Strange how most liberals seem to want "illegal" votes (remember the Florida recount where the majority of illegal votes (felons) were for the Kerry?).

    I hope this helps.

    The NRA does just what any other lobbies do; as a spokesman for their supporters, they provide factual information in order to provide US legislators with information in order to make an intelligent decision, and they also keep their supporters informed by letting them know about pending legislature that impacts their 2nd Amendment rights.

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    It's kinda hard to believe the voter ID thing is even an issue. Of course one needs to prove who he/she is before voting.

    It not even rational to think otherwise. Wake the fuck up you libtards!

    Late term abortions, there's no question you are killing a life. Go ahead have them, but know it is murder.

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