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    Six firms own 90% of the worlds media. Can there ever be free press?

    When considered that one individual is known to have a controlling stake in two of these..... surely all you will ever here and see is what a small collection of people want you to see in stark contrast to 20 years ago when it was not so controlled. Do you remember investigative reporting? Do you recall journos grilling and asking really pertinent questions of politicians and leaders? Has it been 20 years since that was allowed to happen?


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    You published this.
    Couldn't have done that 20 years ago.
    Wiki leaks couldn't have happened 20 years ago.
    The terminally stupid don't watch the news and anyone with half a brain and active interest knows what they see is advertorial.

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    This should be clarified as: 90% of the mainstream corporate establishment media.

    There is a ton of independent and alternative sources that don't belong to such a class.
    Perhaps, 90% of the mutant populations aren't aware of this.....can't imagine why.

    Most will become conditioned to absorb the convention - knowing no other way. Therefore, a thought process and references thereof has it's origins.

    Think people.
    Dumb cnuts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rural Surin
    There is a ton of independent and alternative sources that don't belong to such a class.
    And these sources have no agenda?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necron99 View Post
    You published this.
    Couldn't have done that 20 years ago.
    Wiki leaks couldn't have happened 20 years ago.
    The terminally stupid don't watch the news and anyone with half a brain and active interest knows what they see is advertorial.
    Difference is that me doing it, or some other individual on a website, means it will not be believed. One of the big 6 says something, it is believed.

    Gaddafi was murdered and this was allowed to happen directly as result of the criminal misreporting of Libya, and his relationship with his people.



    I had a mate in Tripoli who I was in touch with, especially when we were watching news about Gadaffi bombing the place. He said it was all bullshit. He lived there for 8 years for work, and it was all a load of crap (right up until the Mujahadin CIA sponsored terrorists rocked into town killing the locals).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rural Surin
    There is a ton of independent and alternative sources that don't belong to such a class.
    And these sources have no agenda?
    Of course they do.
    Stimulation, by it's very nature, will be subjective.

    Yet, not controlled by the corporate establishment.

    You're not getting it.....like most.
    Has nothing to do with political identities and how one observes.

    Alternative media manifest itself representing all POVs and flavours - regardless of how you see the politics.


    Such topical matters have really nothing to do with the source[s], but instead the individual and collective - which don't come across terribly connected.

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    ^^ i never thought it was anything but a murder? Who did?
    Did anyone reading this thread think the attacks on Libya were justified?
    Or Iraq?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necron99 View Post
    ^^ i never thought it was anything but a murder? Who did?
    Did anyone reading this thread think the attacks on Libya were justified?
    Or Iraq?
    The governments and corporations surely did [justify].
    And promoted it as such, didn't they? As they still do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rural Surin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Necron99 View Post
    ^^ i never thought it was anything but a murder? Who did?
    Did anyone reading this thread think the attacks on Libya were justified?
    Or Iraq?
    The governments and corporations surely did [justify].
    And promoted it as such, didn't they? As they still do.
    Try searching in the mainstream news websites for mention of replacing the petrodollar with the Gold Dinar. This was Gaddafi's plan, taken in part from the Malaysian idea of an Islamic Gold Dinar - real money, not the fake shit that the Fed throws around the world.

    You won't find it in the press except for "Dem stooopid conspiracy theorists think this was the reason for going to war" articles. Now I wonder why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
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    You won't find it in the press except for "Dem stooopid conspiracy theorists think this was the reason for going to war" articles. Now I wonder why?
    Should we return to the gold standard?

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    <<This should be clarified as: 90% of the mainstream corporate establishment media.>>

    Western Media,

    Indian media is huge, far bigger number than USA newspapers etc, and similar in China,

    That said in the west 6 companies do have the most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necron99 View Post
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    You won't find it in the press except for "Dem stooopid conspiracy theorists think this was the reason for going to war" articles. Now I wonder why?
    Should we return to the gold standard?
    please point me to where it talks about Gaddaf / Libya / Gold Dinar - it seems it is not there. Aside from the fact that it is an article in a Zionist controlled rag saying "oooohh no never back to gold backed currency because then the world will know the Fed has sold US and German gold"

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    This is hardly surprising, deregulation of the 80s and 90s has brought the banking crisis as well the media crisis we are witnessing now,

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    Most people know what they want the 'truth' to be and then go searching for places where they hear people telling them this 'truth'. Whether or not this 'truth' is lies, spin or evidenced is of little interest to them.

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    yes....there is even a special name for it...... Confirmation Bias

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    Quote Originally Posted by hazz
    Most people know what they want the 'truth' to be and then go searching for places where they hear people telling them this 'truth'. Whether or not this 'truth' is lies, spin or evidenced is of little interest to them.
    This.

    And it's why the corporate dominance of infotainment doesn't have the horrible meanings some would prefer to ascribe to it.

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    ^Something we can finally agree on

    The real problem is the internet which, even more than TV and radio, makes everyone the same size. The fruitcake that invents his facts, their propagandist who likewise invents his own facts, and people who actually go to the trouble of researching and confirming their facts. People seem very poorly equipped to judge between them, its something we need to learn to do as internet will always be a liers paradise and the mean stream media's interest will rarely go beyond ensuring they give their views what they want to keep them watching the adverts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Necron99
    Did anyone reading this thread think the attacks on Libya were justified?
    Which one's? Obviously no, but in the interest of International unity, they all joined hands and commenced the battle against the great Satan bringing about peace and harmony throughout the Kingdom. All noteworthy news services were there in support of the mass destruction of Colonel Gaddafi and his loyalists. Much the same as is on going in Syria today. Humanitarian aid is really just another word for financial support for an well armed insurgency.

    What ya going to do folks, vote them out?

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    I forget what group it was, 'Combat 66' i think in Czech during an interview with John Pilger quite a few years ago.

    They said something along the lines of "When media in the UK reports to its people, the people believe everything they read and hear. When media in my country reports to the people, the people know it's all lies for their own political agenda"

    Their point being that countries such as the UK are blind to the reality of things.

    Don't quote me on that group.
    You bullied, you laughed, you lied, you lost!

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    The solution is not watching mainstream media, which is a total bore anyway, except a handful of specialized publications. But there's a weath of diversity online, especially through independent blog or "superblogs" (sites that started as blogs but became million dollar media outlets like Huffington Post, Smart Planet, etc)
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    Quote Originally Posted by MongersSyndicate
    The solution is not watching mainstream media, which is a total bore anyway, except a handful of specialized publications. But there's a weath of diversity online, especially through independent blog or "superblogs" (sites that started as blogs but became million dollar media outlets like Huffington Post, Smart Planet, etc)
    Yup. Like anything else, you just have to maintain some awareness and read around as much as possible.

    Most people aren't really "interested" in whatever is in the media anyway, except as a momentary distraction and confirmation of their world-view.

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    I don't know the solution to the concentration of wealth and power into the hands of the few but I do know that writing about it and chatting with people who agree with you about it isn't going to change anything. Real action is needed. Since the media pushes lies that kill through wars and in other ways, there's really no limit as to how those against this media may choose to confront it.

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    ^Agreed.

    Possibly the main reason there is virtually no resistance to capitalist greed and the depredations of the wealthy these days is that the so-called left has gone into the stratosphere and left real-world problems behind.

    You've got conspiracy theory and you've got rights. All talk and moralizing.

    What is needed is organization and action.

    I ain't gonna start it. That's for sure.

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    ^ That's right Reg, we have to stop just bloody talking about it and do something..

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