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    Bernie Sanders: The Majority Of Gun Owners Are Responsible And Obey The Law



    Even a blind squirrel can find the acorn once an a while!

    Vermont liberal Sen. Bernie Sanders said Sunday that the majority of gun owners are responsible and obey the law.

    Appearing on CNN’s “State of the Union” Sunday, Sanders said that a gun manufacturer should be no more responsible for a murder performed by their product than a hammer manufacturer is responsible “if someone beat someone over the head with a hammer.”

    Sanders was taking on detractors who have pointed to a bill he voted for that shields firearms manufacturers from being sued by gun violence victims. Presidential rival Hillary Clinton made reference to this bill in New Hampshire Saturday, saying that it was the “height of irresponsibility not to talk about it.”

    Sanders noted Sunday that he has a pretty poor grade of a D- from the National Rifle Association and has voted for the assault weapons ban.

    Sanders suggested that he could broker a “serious debate and action on guns,” but that it won’t happen if “we have extreme positions on both sides.”

    “I come form a state that has virtually no gun control but the people of my state understand that guns in Vermont aren’t the same thing as guns in Chicago,” he said.

    The senator has been drawing big crowds in Iowa and other places, but still lags behind former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in the polls."

    Sanders: The majority of gun owners are responsible and obey the law | Washington Examiner

    You go, Bernie!
    A Deplorable Bitter Clinger

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    ^ You will find he is not a dove, either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    ^ You will find he is not a dove, either.
    But...he wants 90% of that chicken...

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    The military industrial complex wants 110% of that chicken Booners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slackula
    Meantime pseudo, consider this pair of graphics before you call Harry a dumb fuck, you dumb fuck:
    Ahhh diddums you think that those little maps of flag waving twats like you makes a damn bit of difference?


    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    Actually, pseudo is correct on the issue of both parties being the same
    They are. Some simple facts that the flag waving morons chose to ignore due to their cognitive dissonance

    The Democrips and Repulibloods trail of death and destruction of needless wars

    Vote one of these bastards and get....

    Continual War.


    1950–53 – Korean War:
    1955–75 – Vietnam:
    1958 – Lebanon:
    1965 – Invasion of Dominican Republic:
    1968 – Laos & Cambodia:
    1981 – El Salvador:
    1981 – Libya:
    1982 – Sinai
    1983 – Grenada:
    1983–89 – Honduras
    1983 – Chad:
    1986 – Libya:
    1988 – Honduras:
    1988 – Panama
    1989 – Libya:
    1989 – Panama:
    1989 – War on Drugs,
    1989–90 – Panama
    1991 – Iraq and Kuwait: Gulf War,
    1991–96 – Iraq:
    1991 – Iraq
    1992 – Sierra Leone
    1992–96 – Bosnia and Herzegovina
    1992–2003
    1992–95 – Somalia
    1993–95 – Bosnia
    1993 – Macedonia
    1994 – Bosnia
    1994–95 – Haiti:
    1995 – Bosnia
    1998 – Iraq:
    1998 – Afghanistan and Sudan
    1999 – Serbia:
    2001-present – War in Afghanistan
    2003–2011 – War in Iraq:
    2003 – Liberia
    2003 – Georgia and Djibouti:
    2004 – Georgia, Djibouti, Kenya, Ethiopia, Yemen, and Eritrea
    2004–present: Pakistan
    2007 – Somalia
    2010–present[edit]
    2010-present - Yemen:
    2010–11 –
    2011 – 2011 Libya:
    2012 – Syria .
    2013 – Mali


    Add to this...

    Vast increases in wealth gap
    Massive increases in inflation
    Huge Unemployment issues, only addressed by increasingly FUDGING the figures by removing long term unemployed from the job seekers list (especially by obomba).


    Blimey on and on and yet dumb fucks like slackula and snub keep waving their little flags are arguing the toss, and are too dumb and too blind to realise the fix is in, and that the US is being driven to a massive collapse by the very people they are wetting their panties about in their adoration.

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    She wants to represent the non elites... as an elite herself, she knows how to ensure the poor are fooked more than bill did with Epstein and his island of children I guess.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus
    They are. Some simple facts that the flag waving morons chose to ignore due to their cognitive dissonance
    BSABSVR™ was soooo last year. Find a new schtick and stop dialling it in you lazy git.

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    You know, some of the things 'ol Bernie is coming out with make sense to me:

    DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE BERNIE SANDERS: REAL UNEMPLOYMENT IN DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT OBAMA’S AMERICA IS 10.5 PERCENT:



    Like the Donald, Sanders is talking about 'uncomfortable' issues the Lamestream Media continue to gloss over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    Like the Donald, Sanders is talking about 'uncomfortable' issues the Lamestream Media continue to gloss over.
    Unlike Donald he's not insulting a swathe of the electorate wit racist babblings

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    ^Not to bad there Hairy...I wondered why your such a supporter of "Grandma?"

    Into "blue hairs," as well eh?

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    More Republican bullshit, seems they've been editing together emails about Benghazi to create lies, then leaking them to reporters to try and mislead them.

    Republicans just can't stop lying can they? And you wonder why the voters don't believe this drivel of horseshit that comes out of right wing mouths?



    In a blistering letter to Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-SC), the chairman of the House Select Committee on Benghazi, the panel’s top Democrat said that information apparently leaked to Politico by a member or committee staffer was “doctored” in order to damage former Secretary of State and candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination Hillary Clinton.

    Ranking Member Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-MD), who has been highly critical of the committee’s work, said that a June 17 Politico article (since corrected) relied on an anonymous source’s description of emails obtained as part of the investigation, who misled the publication by taking things written by Clinton in response to two different emails and pretending that they were in response to a completely different email.
    Top Dem Says Benghazi Committee Leaked ?Doctored? Info | The Fiscal Times

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    Team Clinton ‘worried’ about Bernie Sanders campaign.

    Heh...

    Hillary Clinton’s campaign is “worried” about Bernie Sanders, whom a top Clinton aide described as a “serious force” in the 2016 battle.

    “We are worried about him, sure. He will be a serious force for the campaign, and I don’t think that will diminish,” Clinton Communications Director Jennifer Palmieri said Monday in an interview with MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.”

    “It’s to be expected that Sanders would do well in a Democratic primary, and he’s going to do well in Iowa in the Democratic caucus.”

    Sanders, an independent senator from Vermont, has emerged as Clinton’s main foil in the Democratic primary.

    While he’s still more than 40 percentage points behind Clinton in virtually all national polls, he’s greatly improved his stock in the early primary states."

    Team Clinton ?worried? about Bernie Sanders campaign | TheHill

    You know what? It would be amazing to hear of some Statist Media Flack ask 'ol Bernie what's the difference between the socialism he's advocating and what's Greece has, eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    More so than a bunch of Mexican criminals who have been deported countless times and continue to slay innocent Americans.
    Typical right wing fear mongering. Just BS for simple minds.

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    Enter Sandman: why have Democrats fallen in love with Bernie Sanders?

    I’m feeling the Bern – and lots of others are, too.
    Since independent Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders made his bid for the 2016 Democratic nomination official, he has, rather quickly, raised millions of dollars in small donations and attracted overflow crowds wherever he speaks. And despite the confusion of the mainstream media – the Washington Post, for example, called Sanders’ rise “unexpected” and on par with Donald Trump – he’s not just some frumpy old white guy on a rant. He’s a seasoned, left-leaning politician primed to deliver a progressive message to a public both eager to embrace another option on the left and to be able to chose from more than just a Democrat or a Republican.
    Political party designations are suspicious for someone, like me, who grew up in the southern United States, where Democrats ruled until the great 1970s switch-a-roo put Republicans in the driver’s seat. The “good ole boy” Democratic voters – the yellow dogs – gave themselves over entirely to the Republicans, while Democratic politicians, too, inched closer to the right, abandoning whatever principles they might have once had for the “triangulation” of Bill Clinton and the other Baby Boomer donkeys who sold out to the same corporate companies and tough-on-the-poor rhetoric as their counterparts across the aisle. But up in Vermont, where Birkenstock hippies are neighbors with live-free-or-die libertarians, Sanders was a true independent.
    It was that “I” after his name that first caught my attention several years ago: Sanders proudly calls himself “a socialist”. So why is a lover of communism – an evil socialist hell-bent on the destruction of good-and-proper capitalism – doing so well in a political contest in America? Are we finally gearing up for a violent uprising of the proletariat?
    Not quite: even the word “socialist” just isn’t that terrible anymore. Remember when we were told that passing Medicare would create a socialist dictatorship? Now, after all the Alinsky scare-mongering and promises that electing Obama would mean getting a socialist in the White House (and ending up with a centrist), the public has become more sophisticated about the language of manufactured moral panic. Calling someone a socialist these days is like calling someone a Roosevelt Democrat (before the rightward drift of the whole political spectrum).
    Socialism in 21st century America is a government that exists to serve the common people, the working people, the middle class, not an arm of the richest and most powerful segment of society. It’s a government that creates and nurtures policies that promote the best possible conditions for every citizen to have a healthy, prosperous, peaceful and productive life.
    Sanders has been consistent on issues that impact the everyday lives of real Americans, and his platform is ambitious. The list of Sanders-approved-before-it-was-cool policies is long: universal healthcare; the right to an education; the impact of race on access to employment and education; avoiding wars we cannot afford and taking care of those who do fight in those wars; economic stability for the middle class; and environmental protection. He was part of the 99% before it was a hashtag. He’s so authentic that he’s hip, even to the hip kids.
    Similar messages delivered by previous populist, independent candidates like Ralph Nader and Ross Perot didn’t catch on because there was always that whiff of ego that voters like me could smell, coupled with lack of experience in government. They had some catchy slogans but failed to present an overarching social and political philosophy.
    Washington insiders want to paint Bernie as a radical like them – outside the mainstream – but what they’re seeing someone who has been ahead of the curve his entire career. Perhaps it’s not that he’s been ahead, but that he’s never changed, while his peers have veered and swayed with every new breeze from focus groups, campaign cash and media pressure.
    Bernie’s biggest obstacle to the White House is the defeatist attitude of an electorate that is constantly being told by big money that big money is the only factor in winning elections – “How can Bernie get anywhere against the money and power of Hillary?” we keep hearing. He could save the middle class but his policies don’t attract corporate or billionaire political donations, so we’re supposed to think that it’s hopeless.
    Thank goodness that gloomy attitude didn’t prevail in New England a couple hundred years ago when the big money and all the power was in the hands of King George and his empire. Imagine if the patriots had read more press about the hopelessness of their campaign.
    There will be those – certainly some in my neighborhood – who will interpret Bernie’s calls for political change as evidence of commie plots to enslave us all. It won’t be anything new: right-wing rhetoric has been demonizing the left for the last 40 years. But this time, rather than stock up on ammunition, jerky and canned beans to survive the coming Communist hordes, we might think about giving Bernie’s style of socialism a chance. I like living in a democracy and the idea of a government – whether big or small – that works for me instead of against me sounds appealing. Don’t you feel it? That’s the Bern.


    Why do so many Democrats support Bernie Sanders? | Steve Winkler | Comment is free | The Guardian

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    BErnie should drop racist raconteurs the Democrips like the steaming pile of shit it is and go independent.




    “The largest political party in the United States in no longer a party at all,” NBC commentator Chuck Todd reports.
    “In the 31 states plus the District of Columbia where voters have to pick a party when registering to vote, unaffiliated or no party voters are now the leading political party in 12 of those state, and in a few of them, they are the majority of all registered voters.” – Chuck Todd, NBC News

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    I would reckon that any support for Bernie is more a vote against anything Hillary than pro-bernie?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ltnt View Post
    I would reckon that any support for Bernie is more a vote against anything Hillary than pro-bernie?
    Either one of them would take America straight to Greece. Ramp up the Federal Government even more and jack up taxes where business would die.

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    And they say she lacks a sense of humor

    ‘People should and do trust me,’ says Hillary Clinton.

    'People should and do trust me,' says Hillary Clinton | TheHill

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    Quote Originally Posted by ltnt View Post
    I would reckon that any support for Bernie is more a vote against anything Hillary than pro-bernie?
    I think the "Tax the billionaire bastards" is resonating with everyone trying to make a living while they see the 1% trousering cash like never before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    I think the "Tax the billionaire bastards" is resonating with everyone trying to make a living while they see the 1% trousering cash like never before.
    Yea perhaps Hairy. In my experience its been mostly lay abouts who worry about who's earning mega bucks and getting more than their fair share of the pig trough.

    People who work for a living by and large are to busy working and supporting their lifestyles to actually see the reality of the system. Its not that they're stupid or unaware, its simply they haven't got the freedom to stop and actually ponder on how the system has them over the barrel.

    Folks with some talent, connections or old money seldom concern themselves with those who are struggling in this world. Rare instances. The old guys like Carnegie or Ghetty were really filthy rich, but they took the time when they really didn't have to to establish for good or bad civic projects that have lasted through several lifetimes. I now see some of the same happening from within the ranks of the super rich, but its not an effective tool against poverty, or the lack of jobs and skill sets.

    Gates and Buffet seem to think they're more effective sending their money off-shore to third world nations when a more effective thing would be to give those funds to projects in developed civilized nations that will better the living standards of the world. shoving money down the sewers of India isn't an effective use of money or knowledge. Old Mr. Ted CNN gave millions to the UN...how fuk'en stupid was that?

    Like a quote from Gandhi years ago, "give to a beggar and you make begging a profession."

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    Quote Originally Posted by ltnt View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    I think the "Tax the billionaire bastards" is resonating with everyone trying to make a living while they see the 1% trousering cash like never before.
    Yea perhaps Hairy. In my experience its been mostly lay abouts who worry about who's earning mega bucks and getting more than their fair share of the pig trough.

    People who work for a living by and large are to busy working and supporting their lifestyles to actually see the reality of the system. Its not that they're stupid or unaware, its simply they haven't got the freedom to stop and actually ponder on how the system has them over the barrel.

    Folks with some talent, connections or old money seldom concern themselves with those who are struggling in this world. Rare instances. The old guys like Carnegie or Ghetty were really filthy rich, but they took the time when they really didn't have to to establish for good or bad civic projects that have lasted through several lifetimes. I now see some of the same happening from within the ranks of the super rich, but its not an effective tool against poverty, or the lack of jobs and skill sets.

    Gates and Buffet seem to think they're more effective sending their money off-shore to third world nations when a more effective thing would be to give those funds to projects in developed civilized nations that will better the living standards of the world. shoving money down the sewers of India isn't an effective use of money or knowledge. Old Mr. Ted CNN gave millions to the UN...how fuk'en stupid was that?

    Like a quote from Gandhi years ago, "give to a beggar and you make begging a profession."
    No, I think the $10 an hour Walmart brigade, who have to rely on government subsidy to make a living wage, are also a bit resentful.

    In fact one of the very quotes I read from one of his supporters today said that they genuinely believe "he represents the 99%".

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    Thanks for that.
    Any ambivelance I may have held about Webb is now resolved. His positions on most economic and foreign policy issues would send the country over the cliff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Storekeeper
    Climate change and energy: Limit EPA power to regulate emissions. Expand energy access. Build the Keystone Pipeline.
    A deal breaker there. The EPA needs more power to regulate not less and the pipeline is a joke it does nothing to make the US more energy independent as some claim.

    Quote Originally Posted by Storekeeper
    Taxes: Cut corporate taxes. Raise taxes on investments.
    Another deal breaker here. Corporate taxes are at all time lows they should be raised not cut so that they return to proper historic levels. Also were is his stance on the disastrous Bush tax cuts that have ballooned the nations debt?

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    ^Interesting numbers. It seemed in the last Prez election it was almost even thirds, but I could be mistaken. I've been in that 45% category all my life - mainly because I cannot in good faith back 100% of any Party's platform. There's good and bad in each, and they nearly always perform counter to their platforms once elected anyway.

    Even all of Bernie's ideas I don't back entirely, but he gets closer to the mark than the rest of the posers right now.

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    bsnub - the self proclaimed anarchist now 'feeling the Bern'.

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