Thread: 2016 Democratic US Presidential Candidates

Local news reporting on Bernie's latest speech.

Bernie Sanders urges Iowa crowd of 2,500 to 'think big'

COUNCIL BLUFFS, Ia. – Presidential candidate Bernie Sanders attracted nearly 2,500 people to listen Friday night to his passionate call for "a massive jobs program," free public college education and two weeks of mandatory paid vacation for all working Americans — all as part of a political revolution led by the people.

It was the Vermont U.S. senator's biggest crowd in Iowa yet, and it was the largest for any single candidate in the 2016 presidential election cycle here so far.

"Our job is not to think small. It is to think big!" Sanders said, his voice booming, during a 74-minute speech in a cavernous room at the Mid-America Center in Council Bluffs. "We are the wealthiest country in the history of the world. There is nothing that we cannot accomplish if we stand together!"

One audience member, 59-year-old Council Bluffs Democrat Richard Grondek, said he didn't think Sanders had a realistic chance of winning the Iowa caucuses "until he started drawing crowds like this."

"This feels like the Obama synergy the first time he ran," Grondek said. "The crowds just kept getting bigger and bigger."

More here: Bernie Sanders urges Iowa crowd of 2,500 to 'think big'

Originally Posted by misskit

Perhaps they don't report it exactly because it will resonate with average Americans. After all, the lamestream media is part of the corporate establishment.

You can read your basic Sander's speech here: https://berniesanders.com/remarks-by...ngton-vermont/

Heh...let's see the Lamestream Media report on Sanders like they do on The Donald. Then I'll agree with you...

Bernie Sanders is a serious person while Donald Trump is a carnival barker.

Originally Posted by misskit

Bernie Sanders is a serious person while Donald Trump is a carnival barker.

Bernie Sanders is a serious whack-job is the more apt description.

^ Did you read his speech? What part would you like to point out which makes him a whack job in your eyes?

Originally Posted by misskit

^ Did you read his speech? What part would you like to point out which makes him a whack job in your eyes?

Just a lot of plain vanilla platitudes with no specifics like how to deal with the illegal aliens and the open border.

Basically, a chicken in every pot although the government will take 90% of that chicken.

^ That makes him a whack-job?

Originally Posted by misskit

^ That makes him a whack-job?

Loose intrepretation.

oops..

A pertinent question:

How far do you think Bernie will go?

^ My heart wishes he would go much farther than he will. America is not a democracy.

It is an oligarchy with its little minions pushing nonsense.

Originally Posted by bsnub

^ My heart wishes he would go much farther than he will. America is not a democracy.

It is an oligarchy with its little minions pushing nonsense.

I completely agree.

Originally Posted by bsnub

^ My heart wishes he would go much farther than he will. America is not a democracy.

It is an oligarchy with its little minions pushing nonsense.

Well, for sure! Let's hope Bernie takes America full Commie like Cuba or Venezuala, Albania, Red China etc.

Go for the gusto, Bernie!

Originally Posted by Black Heart

A pertinent question:

How far do you think Bernie will go?

Not very far. Corporates and Billionaires funding him would be like turkeys voting for Christmas.

And if you ain't got money, you're going nowhere.

It depends on how much momentum he can muster before the caucuses. I think progressives are seriously looking for an alternative to Hillary, and he might be it.

Just hope the old guy can take the stress. He's almost as old as Booners, that's scary

Originally Posted by harrybarracudaisfullof

bollocks

First Klan: 1865–1871
Creation and naming

Six well-educated Confederate veterans from Pulaski, Tennessee created the original Ku Klux Klan on December 24, 1865, during the Reconstruction of the South after the Civil War.[32][33] The name was formed by combining the Greek kyklos (κύκλος, circle) with clan.[34] The group was known for a short time as the "Kuklux Clan". The Ku Klux Klan was one of a number of secret, oath-bound organizations using violence, which included the Southern Cross in New Orleans (1865) and the Knights of the White Camelia (1867) in Louisiana.[35]

Historians generally see the KKK as part of the post Civil War insurgent violence related not only to the high number of veterans in the population, but also to their effort to control the dramatically changed social situation by using extrajudicial means to restore white supremacy. In 1866, Mississippi Governor William L. Sharkey reported that disorder, lack of control and lawlessness were widespread; in some states armed bands of Confederate soldiers roamed at will. The Klan used public violence against blacks as intimidation. They burned houses, and attacked and killed blacks, leaving their bodies on the roads.[36]


At an 1867 meeting in Nashville, Tennessee, Klan members gathered to try to create a hierarchical organization with local chapters eventually reporting up to a national headquarters. Since most of the Klan's members were veterans, they were used to the hierarchical structure of the organization, but the Klan never operated under this centralized structure. Local chapters and bands were highly independent.


Former Confederate Brigadier General George Gordon developed the Prescript, which espoused white supremacist belief. For instance, an applicant should be asked if he was in favor of "a white man's government", "the reenfranchisement and emancipation of the white men of the South, and the restitution of the Southern people to all their rights."[37] The latter is a reference to the Ironclad Oath, which stripped the vote from white persons who refused to swear that they had not borne arms against the Union. Confederate General Nathan Bedford Forrest became Grand Wizard, claiming to be the Klan's national leader.[11][38]

In an 1868 newspaper interview, Forrest stated that the Klan's primary opposition was to the Loyal Leagues, Republican state governments, people like Tennessee governor Brownlow and other ″carpetbaggers″ and ″scalawags″.[39] He argued that many southerners believed that blacks were voting for the Republican Party because they were being hoodwinked by the Loyal Leagues.[40] One Alabama newspaper editor declared "The League is nothing more than a nigger Ku Klux Klan."[41]

Despite Gordon's and Forrest's work, local Klan units never accepted the Prescript and continued to operate autonomously. There were never hierarchical levels or state headquarters. Klan members used violence to settle old feuds and local grudges, as they worked to restore white dominance in the disrupted postwar society. The historian Elaine Frantz Parsons describes the membership:

Lifting the Klan mask revealed a chaotic multitude of antiblack vigilante groups, disgruntled poor white farmers, wartime guerrilla bands, displaced Democratic politicians, illegal whiskey distillers, coercive moral reformers, sadists, rapists, white workmen fearful of black competition, employers trying to enforce labor discipline, common thieves, neighbors with decades-old grudges, and even a few freedmen and white Republicans who allied with Democratic whites or had criminal agendas of their own. Indeed, all they had in common, besides being overwhelmingly white, southern, and Democratic, was that they called themselves, or were called, Klansmen.[42]
Historian Eric Foner observed:

In effect, the Klan was a military force serving the interests of the Democratic party, the planter class, and all those who desired restoration of white supremacy. Its purposes were political, but political in the broadest sense, for it sought to affect power relations, both public and private, throughout Southern society. It aimed to reverse the interlocking changes sweeping over the South during Reconstruction: to destroy the Republican party's infrastructure, undermine the Reconstruction state, reestablish control of the black labor force, and restore racial subordination in every aspect of Southern life.[43]
Wikisource has original text related to this article:
Interview with Nathan Bedford Forrest
To that end they worked to curb the education, economic advancement, voting rights, and right to keep and bear arms of blacks.[43] The Klan soon spread into nearly every southern state, launching a "reign of terror against Republican leaders both black and white. Those political leaders assassinated during the campaign included Arkansas Congressman James M. Hinds, three members of the South Carolina legislature, and several men who served in constitutional conventions."[44]

https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Ku_Klux_Klan

even on Wiki is says the same you dumb obombaette. The Klan did all the killing and violence under orders from the democoonts because as obvomba and clintons legacy will show you, the democrats are all about MASS MURDER on an industrial scale..... funnily enough, the same as the republicans....

blimey harry is a dumb fuck.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Originally Posted by harrybarracudaisfullof

bollocks

First Klan: 1865–1871
Creation and naming

Six well-educated Confederate veterans from Pulaski, Tennessee created the original Ku Klux Klan on December 24, 1865, during the Reconstruction of the South after the Civil War.[32][33] The name was formed by combining the Greek kyklos (κύκλος, circle) with clan.[34] The group was known for a short time as the "Kuklux Clan". The Ku Klux Klan was one of a number of secret, oath-bound organizations using violence, which included the Southern Cross in New Orleans (1865) and the Knights of the White Camelia (1867) in Louisiana.[35]

Historians generally see the KKK as part of the post Civil War insurgent violence related not only to the high number of veterans in the population, but also to their effort to control the dramatically changed social situation by using extrajudicial means to restore white supremacy. In 1866, Mississippi Governor William L. Sharkey reported that disorder, lack of control and lawlessness were widespread; in some states armed bands of Confederate soldiers roamed at will. The Klan used public violence against blacks as intimidation. They burned houses, and attacked and killed blacks, leaving their bodies on the roads.[36]


At an 1867 meeting in Nashville, Tennessee, Klan members gathered to try to create a hierarchical organization with local chapters eventually reporting up to a national headquarters. Since most of the Klan's members were veterans, they were used to the hierarchical structure of the organization, but the Klan never operated under this centralized structure. Local chapters and bands were highly independent.


Former Confederate Brigadier General George Gordon developed the Prescript, which espoused white supremacist belief. For instance, an applicant should be asked if he was in favor of "a white man's government", "the reenfranchisement and emancipation of the white men of the South, and the restitution of the Southern people to all their rights."[37] The latter is a reference to the Ironclad Oath, which stripped the vote from white persons who refused to swear that they had not borne arms against the Union. Confederate General Nathan Bedford Forrest became Grand Wizard, claiming to be the Klan's national leader.[11][38]

In an 1868 newspaper interview, Forrest stated that the Klan's primary opposition was to the Loyal Leagues, Republican state governments, people like Tennessee governor Brownlow and other ″carpetbaggers″ and ″scalawags″.[39] He argued that many southerners believed that blacks were voting for the Republican Party because they were being hoodwinked by the Loyal Leagues.[40] One Alabama newspaper editor declared "The League is nothing more than a nigger Ku Klux Klan."[41]

Despite Gordon's and Forrest's work, local Klan units never accepted the Prescript and continued to operate autonomously. There were never hierarchical levels or state headquarters. Klan members used violence to settle old feuds and local grudges, as they worked to restore white dominance in the disrupted postwar society. The historian Elaine Frantz Parsons describes the membership:

Lifting the Klan mask revealed a chaotic multitude of antiblack vigilante groups, disgruntled poor white farmers, wartime guerrilla bands, displaced Democratic politicians, illegal whiskey distillers, coercive moral reformers, sadists, rapists, white workmen fearful of black competition, employers trying to enforce labor discipline, common thieves, neighbors with decades-old grudges, and even a few freedmen and white Republicans who allied with Democratic whites or had criminal agendas of their own. Indeed, all they had in common, besides being overwhelmingly white, southern, and Democratic, was that they called themselves, or were called, Klansmen.[42]
Historian Eric Foner observed:

In effect, the Klan was a military force serving the interests of the Democratic party, the planter class, and all those who desired restoration of white supremacy. Its purposes were political, but political in the broadest sense, for it sought to affect power relations, both public and private, throughout Southern society. It aimed to reverse the interlocking changes sweeping over the South during Reconstruction: to destroy the Republican party's infrastructure, undermine the Reconstruction state, reestablish control of the black labor force, and restore racial subordination in every aspect of Southern life.[43]
Wikisource has original text related to this article:
Interview with Nathan Bedford Forrest
To that end they worked to curb the education, economic advancement, voting rights, and right to keep and bear arms of blacks.[43] The Klan soon spread into nearly every southern state, launching a "reign of terror against Republican leaders both black and white. Those political leaders assassinated during the campaign included Arkansas Congressman James M. Hinds, three members of the South Carolina legislature, and several men who served in constitutional conventions."[44]

https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Ku_Klux_Klan

even on Wiki is says the same you dumb obombaette. The Klan did all the killing and violence under orders from the democoonts because as obvomba and clintons legacy will show you, the democrats are all about MASS MURDER on an industrial scale..... funnily enough, the same as the republicans....

blimey harry is a dumb fuck.

Wikipedia?

You fucking idiot.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

the democrats are all about MASS MURDER on an industrial scale..... funnily enough, the same as the republicans....

Your complete ignorance of American history is painfully obvious here. You should refrain from posting about something you are clueless about.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Originally Posted by pseudolus

the democrats are all about MASS MURDER on an industrial scale..... funnily enough, the same as the republicans....

Your complete ignorance of American history is painfully obvious here. You should refrain from posting about something you are clueless about.

Hmmm

So Kiddy Fiddler Bill started military aggressive attacks killing innocent civilians in...

Somalia

(ignored Rwanda because there was no honey for Bill and the bankers there)

Bosnia

Kosovo

Haiti - his foundation made millions from this as well. Thieving bastard.

Iraq - 8 years of cruise missile attacks against civilian populous centers and sanctions

Snubbles stroking himself over the donkey can not face the fact that.... .THEY ARE ALL THE SAME.

dick. Democrips and the same as the republibloods. Same gang. Heres a question for you numbnuts - name ONE millitary attack made by the good ole US of gay that has not left CHAOS as the result in the country they attacked? Just one please. \\\

Originally Posted by slackula

Let's all wait while pseudo compiles some irrelevant tract about the Whigs...

Actually, pseudo is correct on the issue of both parties being the same. There are enclaves of moonbat libs say in CA, MN, CN etc and hard-core Patriots in TX but that's essentially the way it is, man...

Originally Posted by Agent_Smith

It depends on how much momentum he can muster before the caucuses. I think progressives are seriously looking for an alternative to Hillary, and he might be it.

Just hope the old guy can take the stress. He's almost as old as Booners, that's scary

Steady on there Agent_Smith. I'll have you know Sanders has decades on moi...

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

It still hasn't been prpoven that piece of crap so-called BC from Hawaii is real, man...

But you believe that dinosaurs roamed the earth with cavemen.

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

It still hasn't been prpoven that piece of crap so-called BC from Hawaii is real, man...

But you believe that dinosaurs roamed the earth with cavemen.

We know Raquel Welch certainly did!

What does Jim Webb believe? Where the candidate stands on 10 issues

Budget: Cut the budget by reviewing all programs.

Climate change and energy: Limit EPA power to regulate emissions. Expand energy access. Build the Keystone Pipeline.

Guns: Gun ownership is an important right.

Immigration: Allow a path to citizenship after the border is secure. Support the DREAM Act.

Obamacare: President Obama mishandled the process. The law could have been narrower.

Prison Reform: Initiate sweeping reform of criminal justice and incarceration system.

Social Issues: Same-sex marriage should be legal. Government has no role in private matters. Allow abortion access.

Taxes: Cut corporate taxes. Raise taxes on investments.

Iran and Israel: End current negotiations with Iran.

Islamic State and Iraq: The U.S. needs a clear strategy. Unknown if he would send troops to fight Islamic State. Presidents should limit military action.


See link for specifics ...