She's just another proxy / hack / politician.Quote:
Originally Posted by sabang
I don't understand the 'enthusiasm' for a possible Hillary potus.
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She's just another proxy / hack / politician.Quote:
Originally Posted by sabang
I don't understand the 'enthusiasm' for a possible Hillary potus.
It would be hilarious. If you think the right wing are nutty now then just picture their reaction to a President Hillary Clinton! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by barbaro
Heh...especially since she hasn't accomplished squat on her own.Quote:
Originally Posted by barbaroShe's just another proxy / hack / politician.Quote:
Originally Posted by sabang
I don't understand the 'enthusiasm' for a possible Hillary potus.
Alice laughed. "There's no use trying," she said: "one can't believe impossible things."
The populist Right are just plain nutty, full stop- but their opinion bosses & string pullers are entirely comfortable with President Hillary. She is the Establishment/ Elites choice, through and through- just look at her funding juggernaut.Quote:
Originally Posted by quimbian corholla
What America needs is a true leader, not someone already bought and paid for by the banking & 'pro-Israel' lobbies. A leader of the people and of the country- not special interest groups & Beltway insiders. Someone who would actually get the paymasters frothing. The pendulum of US politics has swung way too far to the right, and of course 90% of your nation will be living with the damage for some years yet. But sadly, the other 10% of the nation largely determine the public discourse (they control the channels), and ultimately the candidates (they pay for them). It would be nice to see that unvirtuous cycle broken.
I reckon you might have just such a person, waiting in the sidelines-
Hillary's Nightmare? A Democratic Party That Realizes Its Soul Lies With Elizabeth Warren
... On one side is a majority of Democratic voters, who are angrier, more disaffected, and altogether more populist than they’ve been in years. They are more attuned to income inequality than before the Obama presidency and more supportive of Social Security and Medicare.1 They’ve grown fonder of regulation and more skeptical of big business.2 A recent Pew poll showed that voters under 30—who skew overwhelmingly Democratic—view socialism more favorably than capitalism. Above all, Democrats are increasingly hostile to Wall Street and believe the government should rein it in.
On the other side is a group of Democratic elites associated with the Clinton era who, though they may have moved somewhat leftward in response to the recession—happily supporting economic stimulus and generous unemployment benefits—still fundamentally believe the economy functions best with a large, powerful, highly complex financial sector. Many members of this group have either made or raised enormous amounts of cash on Wall Street. They were deeply influential in limiting the reach of Dodd-Frank, the financial reform measure Obama signed in July of 2010.
... Judging from recent events, the populists are likely to win. In September, New York City Public Advocate Bill de Blasio, running on a platform of taming inequality, routed his Democratic mayoral rival, Christine Quinn, known for her ties to Michael Bloomberg’s finance-friendly administration. The following week, Larry Summers, Obama’s first choice to succeed Ben Bernanke as Federal Reserve chairman, withdrew his name from consideration after months in which Senate Democrats signaled their annoyance with his previous support for deregulation. Not 48 hours later, Bill Daley, the former Obama chief of staff and JP Morgan executive, ended his primary campaign for governor of Illinois after internal polls showed him trailing his populist opponent.
All of this is deeply problematic for Hillary Clinton. As a student of public opinion, she clearly understands the direction her party is headed. As the head of an enterprise known as Clinton Inc. that requires vast sums of capital to function, she also realizes there are limits to how much she can alienate the lords of finance. For that matter, it’s not even clear Clinton would want to. “Many of her best friends, her intellectual brain trust [on economics], all come out of that world,”
Elizabeth Warren is Hillary Clinton's Nightmare | New Republic
Of course, she would be opposed by an avalanche of cash- mostly benefiting Hillary, I wager. But someone has to put a brake on these disastrous supply side/ neo-liberal policies that are destituting the American population, and threatening the viability of the US economy. Someone surely has to raise the discourse in Congress beyond lobbyist driven agendas, and negative sum scandalmongering and obstructionism. What is more important to an American person- who said what to whom about Benghazi, or the fact that 1% of the US population, already very wealthy, have monopolised the gains of the worlds largest economy for the last five years? Someone has to shake up Washington, it has become utterly dysfunctional- and that someone is certainly not Hilly.
I think Hillary is more in the center than Obama.Quote:
Originally Posted by quimbian corholla
I do not see the right wing going "nutty."
They'll be opposed.
^^^^
seems last time there was a Clinton in the white house the right was more than "nutty"
you remember the 100 million in investigations? and all they found was a blowjob../
you remember the vince foster murder? the Clinton Arkansas airport for drug smugglers?
then there was the "legitimate" investigations... Whitewater.. that was fair game.. but they found no wrongdoing...
then there was the whole we hate "nation building" then four years later the rethugs are spending trillions of dollars nation building in Iraq...
the rethugliKKKlans are complete hypocrites and bold face liars and their HypoXtian minions are dumber than the followers of Jonestown!
seeing how its vetrans day can we ever forget the Bush administrations "swift boat" guys with John Kerry... when Bush never went to war and Cheney and his 4 deferments... and yet somehow John Kerry's service to his country were smeared... classy...
Even the GOP's fat front runner hasn't a chance against our next President, Hillary Clinton.
Hillary Clinton bests Chris Christie by 10 points in a hypothetical presidential match-up, a new poll shows.
According to a poll released Tuesday by NBC News, the former secretary of state leads the New Jersey GOP governor 44-34 percent.
Both Christie and Clinton are considered top possible 2016 contenders, and the survey followed Christie’s decisive reelection win in the Garden State last week.
The poll also showed that Clinton enjoys more unified Democratic enthusiasm for her potential presidential bid than Christie does from his party.
Thirty-two percent of GOP and GOP-leaning respondents called Christie their top choice for the Republican presidential nod; 31 percent named someone else.
someone else might mean Cruz. even the majority of Rethugs thinks Cruz sucks,............just a reminder :)
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‘Super PAC’ Gets Early Start on Pushing for a 2016 Clinton Campaign http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/12/us...aign.html?_r=0
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The GOP dug their own grave- why bother with them? The Democrat nominee will be the next President, whatever photogenic dufus the GOP drags up is irrelevant. The next President will be determined within the Democrats.Quote:
Originally Posted by S Landreth
No fucking way will she make it to be president, hell bells, she wouldn't fuck her husband, how the hell is she going to fuck all the American people? No way she can beat out Obama on that.
Waddabout, y'know?
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she would be a terrible president, she is completely incompetent, and a vapid bitch
way too divisive to be the next President, even GW Bush Junior would be a better POTUS than this manipulative bitch
she is also a sold out, if it wasn't for her husband, nobody would care about her
I guess that's Senator Warren?Quote:
Originally Posted by sabang
if so,.........
1.Will Warren run?
Warren has said no, several times, including a May interview with the Globe, when she began her answer with an exaggerated laugh.
“No, no, no, no,” she said.
When a reporter asked her if that was a “definite no,” she responded like this: “No, no, no, no, no.” (Notice the extra “no.”)
“I like being in the Senate,” she added. “I like the chance to move the needle, the days where it feels like maybe, just maybe, we move things just a little bit. Those are the days that I walk with a real swing in my step.”
3. Would Warren support Hillary Clinton for president?
Warren has had beefs with Clinton, criticizing the former New York senator in a 2003 book for supporting a bankruptcy bill that was backed by the credit card industry.
“I called it the way I see it,’’ Warren told the Globe during last year’s campaign, when asked about her prior criticism. “I always have. I do that regardless of political party, regardless of how powerful someone is.’’
But more recently, Warren joined other Democratic Senators in signing a letter urging Clinton to run for president, according to ABC News, which reported on the secret letter in October. (Warren’s office pointed to the letter, written earlier this year, on Monday as further evidence that Warren is not contemplating her own run.)
_:mid:_
just the kind of girl you needQuote:
Originally Posted by S Landreth
& Marxist to the core...Quote:
Originally Posted by sabang
You've got reds under the bed- she's just an old fashioned social democrat. At the end of the day, business lobbyists & the already rich have held sway in Washington for too long. The US government is in a precarious fiscal position, thanks to the predictable tax cuts they lavished on themselves, and the situation needs to be redressed. Income and wealth inequality is at all time highs too, and social mobility has declined precariously- it now lags olde Europe. The political pendulum swung too far to the right, and now it should head back towards the centre. Supposedly, that's the beauty of democracy. Perhaps Liz Warren will be the Reagan of the left? :)
Seeing more & more of this in the news lately:
HRC Past Her Sell Date
George Will on Hillary: At 69 She's "Past Her Sell Date" - YouTube
Benghazi-Gate took its toll too...
I have this feelin' in me bones that Hilly is past her sell by date too- but she's got formidable backing, no question. She looms like a fait accompli, yet with zero pizzazz or excitement factor.
And a LOT of baggage. None of which is of the positive nature...Quote:
Originally Posted by sabang
Good call on the "past due date" Boon. :) Hillary: go to bed.
Oh look another message from the American people to Cruz,...you suck sooo much
Ms. Clinton has leads of nine points or more against other possible Republican contenders, the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University poll finds:
• 49 - 40 percent over U.S. Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky;
• 51 - 36 percent over U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas;
• 49 - 40 percent over U.S. Rep. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin.
However the GOP's fat front runner has caught up.
43 percent of American voters back New Jersey's Republican Governor, Christopher Christie, while 42 percent back former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton
Could be interesting,.........the teabaggers hate the guy but will be forced to eat his shit or sit on their hands. Maybe a hug will help them.
National (US) Poll - November 13, 2013 - Christie, Clinton Tied In 2016 | Quinnipiac University Connecticut
^That obese disgusting slob has to have some major health issue!
He's the worse kind of RINO too...Quote:
Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton
^ Lolz, and there you have it, the Teanderthals hate their party's best chance for the Oval Office so much that they might actually help propel former Senator and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to the presidency in 2016. :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Boon MeeHe's the worse kind of RINO too...Quote:
Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton
Don't Ask Hillary Clinton About Abortion If You Can't Handle Her Answer :)
Sec. Hillary Clinton Defends Reproductive Rights and Family Planning - YouTube
But he did have lap-band surgery.Quote:
Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton
Let's see if it helps.