View Poll Results: Should The Electoral College Be Eliminated?

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    4 36.36%
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    Quote Originally Posted by GooMaiRoo View Post
    About 130 million people will vote in the 2012 presidential election. Less than 30 million of them will be in the 8-9 swing states that are being contested for Electoral College votes (Florida, Ohio, Virginia, North Carolina, New Hampshire, Iowa, Colorado, New Mexico and maybe Wisconsin). Since over 90% of voters have had their polarized minds made up by June, the entire 2012 presidential election will boil down to about 3 million swing voters in those 9 swing states. So, $2.5 billion is being spent by the Democrats and Republicans to persuade about 3 million Americans to go their way in November. The other 97-98% of the voters don't matter much to the strategists or to anything else. That is the most ridiculous thing about the Electoral College.
    Great points, Goo M. R.

    As I've noted OH seems very crucial to Romney (as of course the others). FL seems to be the perennial toss-up in recent elections.

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    I'll put this here. Noting Attaboy's thread on Dem voter poll skewing, this article sums up what Gai M. R. aptly posted. Almost all voters have made up their minds of who they are voting for. A small number of voters will tip the election.

    Polls: Obama holds the edge in Florida, Ohio and Virginia

    President Barack Obama has opened up a five-point lead in the Sunshine State and the "right track" number is now more than 40 percent. NBC's Chuck Todd reports.
    By Mark Murray, Senior Political Editor, NBC News
    After two political conventions and heading into the post-Labor Day sprint, President Barack Obama leads Republican nominee Mitt Romney in the key battlegrounds of Florida, Ohio and Virginia, according to new NBC News/Wall Street Journal/Marist polls of each of these three states.

    In both Florida and Virginia, Obama is ahead of Romney by five points among likely voters (including those leaning toward a particular candidate), 49 percent to 44 percent.

    In Ohio, the president’s lead is seven points, 50 percent to 43 percent.


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    President Barack Obama waves after speaking at a campaign rally in Golden, Colo., Thursday, Sept. 13, 2012.

    Among a larger pool of registered voters, Obama’s advantage over Romney slightly increases to 7 points in Virginia, 8 in Florida and 9 in Ohio.


    “You’d rather be in Obama’s shoes than Romney’s in these three critical states,” Lee Miringoff, director of the Marist College Institute for Public Opinion, says of the poll results.

    First Thoughts: A tricky situation

    But he adds that Obama’s leads are not “insurmountable,” especially as the two candidates prepare for their first presidential debate on Oct. 3 in Colorado.


    These states – all of which Obama carried in 2008 but which George W. Bush won in 2004 – represent three of the most crucial battlegrounds in the 2012 presidential election. And according to NBC’s electoral map, Romney likely needs to capture at least two of these states, if not all three, to secure the 270 electoral votes necessary to win the presidency.

    By comparison, Obama can reach 270 by winning just one or two of these battlegrounds – on top of the other states already considered to be in his column.
    (Obama also has an additional path to victory without any of these three states if he wins the toss-up contests of Colorado, Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire, and Wisconsin.)


    What’s particularly striking about these polls, Miringoff observes, is how most voters in these battleground states have already made up their minds, with just 5 to 6 percent saying they’re undecided, and with more than 80 percent signaling that they strongly support their candidate.

    “Those who are thinking of voting have pretty much picked sides,” he says.
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    Quote Originally Posted by barbaro View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GooMaiRoo View Post
    About 130 million people will vote in the 2012 presidential election. Less than 30 million of them will be in the 8-9 swing states that are being contested for Electoral College votes (Florida, Ohio, Virginia, North Carolina, New Hampshire, Iowa, Colorado, New Mexico and maybe Wisconsin). Since over 90% of voters have had their polarized minds made up by June, the entire 2012 presidential election will boil down to about 3 million swing voters in those 9 swing states. So, $2.5 billion is being spent by the Democrats and Republicans to persuade about 3 million Americans to go their way in November. The other 97-98% of the voters don't matter much to the strategists or to anything else. That is the most ridiculous thing about the Electoral College.
    Great points, Goo M. R.

    As I've noted OH seems very crucial to Romney (as of course the others). FL seems to be the perennial toss-up in recent elections.
    Thanks. In my toss-up states, meant Nevada, not New Mexico, where Obama has a clear lead. The worrisome thing for Obama in Ohio is monkey business by the Republicans. Here's a link to a great article by the late Christopher Hitchens, a conservative, but a man who noticed something very strange about the Ohio results in the 2004 election:

    Ohio's Odd Numbers | Vanity Fair

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