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    Pretty much what we've been listening to for 7 years, but this time its different.

    That idiot Trump! He's stirring up a hornets nest of questions...insane as he is, he's numero dos in da polls...go figure? How's that one unfold for the LIV's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ltnt
    I come by my opinions all by myself..
    No you don't you get your indoctrination via right wing blogs funded by the Koch brothers. The sites do not employ one real journalist. They simply repackage news for bitter old men like yourself. You sir are a simpleminded lemming a LIV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ltnt View Post
    Pretty much what we've been listening to for 7 years, but this time its different.

    That idiot Trump! He's stirring up a hornets nest of questions...insane as he is, he's numero dos in da polls...go figure? How's that one unfold for the LIV's?
    What's cool is the LIV's are starting to listen to the Donald as he strips away at all the lies Obama, HRC & Susan Rice have been spewing - heh

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    ^^I'm sorry you've timed out and now back to the readership...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    Nihogg used hold the title of Pendantic Bastard but you've eclipsed him by light years.
    Pedantic? Showing you that the title you based our whole argument on was factually wrong? That's pedantic?

    And again:

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    The imprisionment of the video maker on trumped up charges and all the rest of these sordid details still don't resonate with you Obama Lapboys?
    Quote Originally Posted by slackula
    He violated his parole conditions, how is that 'trumped up'?
    Is slackula being pedantic as well?


    I guess a 'pedant' is someone who proves you are wrong

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    Clinton may testify to Benghazi committee in October



    Hillary Rodham Clinton’s campaign said Saturday that she will testify on Oct. 22 before the House select committee investigating her role in connection with the deaths of four Americans in Benghazi, Libya — an assertion that was almost immediately challenged by a spokesman for the committee.

    Clinton campaign spokesman Nick Merrill announced the date and said her testimony would be public.

    But Jamal Ware, a spokesman for the committee, said the timing is not set because of ongoing negotiations with Clinton’s lawyer over ground rules.

    The wrangling is of a piece with months of back-and-forth between the Republican-led committee and Clinton, whose allies accuse the panel of conducting a fishing expedition for damaging material that might be used against her as she runs for president in 2016."

    Clinton may testify to Benghazi committee in October - The Washington Post

    Well, well, well, looks like the pressure to clear her name is getting too much eh? She's gotta be careful and parse her words just right cuz she's gonna be under oath and any more lying - off to the Big House with Grandma!
    A Deplorable Bitter Clinger

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    No ones watching, booner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    No ones watching, booner.
    Cue my sig line?

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    GOP panel on Benghazi finds no Obama administration wrongdoing

    The CIA and the military acted properly in responding to the 2012 attack on a U.S. diplomatic compound in Benghazi, Libya, a Republican-controlled House committee has found. Its report concluded that there was no wrongdoing by Obama administration officials.

    Debunking a series of persistent allegations hinting at dark conspiracies, the two-year investigation of the politically charged incident determined that there was no intelligence failure, no delay in sending a CIA rescue team, no missed opportunity for a military rescue, and no evidence the CIA was covertly shipping arms from Libya to Syria.

    Immediately after the attack, intelligence about who carried it out and why was contradictory, the report found. That led Susan Rice, then U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, to inaccurately assert that the attack had evolved from a protest, when in fact there had been no protest.

    But it was intelligence analysts, not political appointees, who made the wrong call, the committee found. The report did not conclude that Rice or any other government official acted in bad faith or intentionally misled the American people.

    The House Intelligence Committee report was released with little fanfare on the Friday before Thanksgiving week. Many of its findings echo those of six previous investigations by various congressional committees and a State Department panel. The eighth Benghazi investigation is being carried out by a House select committee appointed in May.

    The attacks in Benghazi killed U.S. Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens, foreign service officer Sean Smith and two CIA security contractors, Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty. A Libyan extremist, Ahmed Abu Khatallah, is facing trial in federal court on murder charges after he was captured in Libya and taken to the U.S.

    After the attacks, Republicans criticized the Obama administration and its then-secretary of State, Hillary Rodham Clinton, who is expected to run for president in 2016.

    People in and out of government have alleged that a CIA response team was ordered to "stand down" after the State Department compound came under attack, that a military rescue was nixed, that officials intentionally downplayed the role of Al Qaeda figures in the attack, and that Stevens and the CIA were involved in a secret operation to spirit weapons out of Libya and into the hands of Syrian rebels.

    None of that is true, according to the House Intelligence Committee report.


    http://www.latimes.com/world/africa/...123-story.html
    . . . but the brainless ones keep on going:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necron99 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Breny View Post
    FFS If it wasn't for the USA and the tourists from all over the world these fxcking ragheads would be eating their own shit, followed by the mud that makes up their walls of the houses they live in. I know that the USA isnt the best at overseas diplomacy by far. But whats worse china being the only world power?

    Democracy is the only way forward for us all. I would suggest that all aid to them stops right now. No food, no clean water, no nothing. 6 months later they would be back in the stone age apart from bread.

    So a shitty film backed by jews ( allegedly ) make over 500 people stop work and jump over walls of embassy and loot. I would suggest that a fxcking huge wall is built to segregate them but the fuckers would only break it up and throw the stones at aircraft flying 30,000 feet above them.

    Now alot of people on here will not agree with me, but when prostitutes are kept in cages only unlocked when they earn their money and then put back in when finished is wrong. Kids who can only read 1 book ( we all know which one ) while the diplomats have £15 mill houses by the lake side in Switzerland.
    Bolloks to them and their own, we owe then nothing.
    You do realize that before Libya was "liberated" it was independently wealthy, had it;s own gold back currency and the highest standards of both education and health in Africa?
    Ah yes but Gadaffi was making noises about wanting gold for his oil and that was unacceptable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    But Jamal Ware, a spokesman for the committee, said the timing is not set because of ongoing negotiations with Clinton’s lawyer over ground rules.

    When the fuck we getting our money back?

    959: Number of days since the beginning of the ongoing investigation into the tragedy in Benghazi, and there is no end yet in sight. [As of 4/28/15]

    10: Number of congressional committees that have participated in Benghazi investigations.

    32: Number of congressional hearings, public or private, held on the Benghazi tragedy according to publicly available hearing transcripts, congressional reports, and committee websites and fact sheets.

    54: Approximate number of hours spent to date in publicly available hearings about the tragedy in Benghazi.

    2,780: Number of questions asked in public hearings held on the Benghazi tragedy.

    171: Approximate number of witness appearances before House and Senate committees and staff for hearings, briefings, and interviews according to available congressional reports, hearing transcripts, declassified briefing transcripts, committee websites, and fact sheets.

    10: Number of published reports on the Benghazi attacks and subsequent investigations.

    769: Number of pages in published reports on the Benghazi attacks and investigations.

    29: Number of recommendations issued by the Accountability Review Board and accepted by the State Department to ensure the security of American diplomats serving abroad.

    0: Number of investigations that have found any administration wrongdoing related to the Benghazi tragedy.

    0: Number of investigations to find evidence of an intelligence failure leading to the Benghazi tragedy.

    0: Number of investigations to find evidence of a stand down order.


    Unlimited: Budget granted to the Benghazi Select Committee by the Republican controlled House of Representatives.

    $1.8 Million: Approximate cost of the Benghazi Select Committee in 2014.

    $2.5 Million: Approximate cost of the Benghazi Select Committee in its first 10 months.

    $6 Million: Estimated minimum cost of the Benghazi Select Committee investigation at its current rate.

    $8,000: Estimated daily cost of the Benghazi Select Committee investigation at its current rate.

    $700 Million: State Department operational funding threatened by Republicans if officials do not give in to the ongoing “sham investigation.”

    3: Number of public hearings held by the Benghazi Select Committee since its formation in May 2014.

    $1.35 Million: Approximate total salary expenditures in 2014 for Benghazi Select Committee staff.

    29: Number of professional staff members who have worked on the Benghazi Select Committee according to Legistorm.

    40,000: Approximate number of pages of documents provided by the State Department for Select Committee review.

    300: Approximate number of Secretary Clinton’s emails related to Benghazi and provided to the Select Committee.

    900: Approximate number of pages of Secretary Clinton’s emails provided to the Select Committee.

    20: Approximate number witnesses brought in for interviews with the Select Committee to date.

    40-50: Number of interviews planned by the Select Committee with members of the Obama administration, including officials who have previously testified, delivered briefings, or been interviewed by other committees.

    5: Number of months Secretary Clinton has been waiting to testify in an open, public hearing before the Select Committee on the tragedy in Benghazi and her email use.

    136: Number of written questions posed by Benghazi Select Committee Chairman Trey Gowdy in a letter to Secretary Clinton’s attorney.

    8: Number of questions, out of 136 posed by the Select Committee in a letter to Secretary Clinton, directly related to the tragedy in Benghazi.

    2016: Year the Select Committee suggested it would release a final report, which would make it the longest congressional investigation in U.S. history, and ensuring the investigation continues well into the presidential campaign cycle.



    BENGHAZI: BY THE NUMBERS

    959: Number of days since the beginning of the ongoing investigation into the tragedy in Benghazi, and there is no end yet in sight. [As of 4/28/15]

    COMMITTEES

    10: Number of congressional committees that have participated in Benghazi investigations.

    House Committee on the Judiciary. [Interim Progress Report on Benghazi Investigation, 4/23/13]

    House Committee on Armed Services. [Interim Progress Report on Benghazi Investigation, 4/23/13]

    House Committee on Foreign Affairs. [Interim Progress Report on Benghazi Investigation, 4/23/13]

    House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. [Interim Progress Report on Benghazi Investigation, 4/23/13]

    House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform. [Interim Progress Report on Benghazi Investigation, 4/23/13]

    Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Government Affairs. [Flashing Red: A Special Report on the Terrorist Attack at Benghazi, 12/20/12]

    Senate Select Committee on Intelligence. [Senate Intelligence Committee press release, 10/25/12]

    Senate Committee on Foreign Relations. [Benghazi: The Attacks and the Lessons Learned, 1/23/13]

    Senate Committee on Armed Services. [Attack on U.S. Facilities in Benghazi, Libya, 2/7/13]

    The Select Committee on Benghazi. [Select Committee on Benghazi, accessed 3/24/15]


    HEARINGS

    32: Number of congressional hearings, public or private, held on the Benghazi tragedy according to publicly available hearing transcripts, congressional reports, and committee websites and fact sheets.

    Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Government Affairs hearing, Homeland Threats and Agency Responses held 9/19/12. [Homeland Threats and Agency Responses, 9/19/12]

    House Committee on Armed Services hearing, Full Committee Hearing on the Attack in Benghazi held 9/19/12. [Fact Sheet: HASC Oversight Activities on Libya, armedservices.house.gov, accessed 4/13/15]

    House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform hearing, The Security Failures of Benghazi held 10/10/12. [The Security Failures of Benghazi, 10/10/12]

    House Committee on Foreign Affairs hearing, Benghazi and Beyond: What Went Wrong on September 11, 2012 and How to Prevent it from Happening at other Frontline Posts, Part I held 11/15/12. [Benghazi and Beyond: What Went Wrong on September 11, 2012 and How to Prevent it from Happening at other Frontline Posts, Part I, 11/15/12]

    House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence hearing, Full Committee Hearing with DNI Clapper, ADCIA Morell, D/NCTC Olsen, and Under Secretary Kennedy held 11/15/12. [Investigative Report on the Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Facilities in Benghazi, Libya, September 11-12, 2012, pg. 7, footnote 11, 11/21/14]

    Senate Select Committee on Intelligence hearing, Hearing on the Attacks in Benghazi held 11/15/12. [Senate Intelligence Committee press release, 10/25/12, SSCI Review of the Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Facilities in Benghazi, Libya, September 11-12, 2012, pg. 3, footnote 4, 1/15/14]

    House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence hearing, Full Committee Hearing on Benghazi held 11/16/12. [Investigative Report on the Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Facilities in Benghazi, Libya, September 11-12, 2012, pg. 25, footnote 131, 11/21/14]

    Senate Select Committee on Intelligence hearing, Hearing With General David Petraeus Re: His Knowledge of the Attacks on U.S. Facilities in Benghazi, Libya held 11/16/12. [SSCI Review of the Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Facilities in Benghazi, Libya, September 11-12, 2012, Additional Majority Views, pg. 3, footnote 143, 1/15/14]

    Senate Select Committee on Intelligence hearing, Hearing on Security Issues at Benghazi and Threats to U.S. Intelligence and Diplomatic Personnel and Facilities Worldwide Since the Attack held 12/4/12. [SSCI Review of the Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Facilities in Benghazi, Libya, September 11-12, 2012, pg. 6, footnote 18, 1/15/14]

    House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence hearing, Full Committee classified hearing on efforts to find the Benghazi attackers held 12/13/12. [House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI) Investigation into the Benghazi Terrorist Attacks Timeline of Investigation to date, no. 34, 12/04/14]

    House Committee on Foreign Affairs hearing, Benghazi Attack, Part II: The Report of the Accountability Review Board held 12/20/12. [Benghazi Attack, Part II: The Report of the Accountability Review Board, 12/20/12]

    Senate Committee on Foreign Relations hearing, Benghazi: The Attack and the Lessons Learned held 12/20/12. [Benghazi: The Attack and the Lessons Learned, 12/20/12]

    House Committee on Foreign Affairs hearing, Terrorist Attack in Benghazi: The Secretary of State’s View held 1/23/13. [Terrorist Attack in Benghazi: The Secretary of State’s View, 1/23/13]

    Senate Committee on Foreign Relations hearing with Secretary Clinton, Benghazi: The Attacks and the Lessons Learned held 1/23/13. [Benghazi: The Attacks and the Lessons Learned, 1/23/13]

    Senate Committee on Armed Services hearing, Department Of Defense’s Response To The Attack On U.S. Facilities In Benghazi, Libya, And The Findings Of Its Internal Review Following The Attack held 2/7/13. [Department Of Defense’s Response To The Attack On U.S. Facilities In Benghazi, Libya, And The Findings Of Its Internal Review Following The Attack, 2/7/13]

    House Committee on Armed Services hearing, The Posture of the U.S. European Command and U.S. Africa Command held 3/15/13. [“HASC Committee Oversight of Benghazi Attack,” HASC website, accessed 4/21/15]

    House Committee on Foreign Affairs hearing, Securing U.S. Interests Abroad: The FY 2014 Foreign Affairs Budget held 4/17/13. [“Investigation of Benghazi,” gop.gov, accessed 4/13/15]

    House Committee on Government Oversight and Reform hearing, Benghazi: Exposing Failure and Recognizing Courage held 5/8/13. [Benghazi: Exposing Failure and Recognizing Courage, 5/8/13]

    House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence hearing, Full Committee Hearing with CIA’s former Chief of Benghazi Base held 5/22/13. [Investigative Report on the Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Facilities in Benghazi, Libya, September 11-12, 2012, pg. 14, footnote 70, 11/21/14]

    House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence hearing, Full Committee Hearing with Deputy CIA Director Michael Morell held 5/22/13. [Investigative Report on the Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Facilities in Benghazi, Libya, September 11-12, 2012, pg. 16, footnote 83, 11/21/14]

    House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence hearing, Full Committee Hearing on Benghazi Investigation held 6/14/13. [House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI) Investigation into the Benghazi Terrorist Attacks Timeline of Investigation to date, no. 63, 12/04/14]

    House Committee on Foreign Affairs Subcommittee on Terrorism, Nonproliferation, and Trade, and Subcommittee on the Middle East and North Africa joint hearing, The Terrorist Threat in North Africa: Before and After Benghazi held 7/10/13. [The Terrorist Threat in North Africa: Before and After Benghazi, 7/10/13]

    House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence hearing, Full Committee Hearing with DCIA Brennan held 7/25/13. [House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI) Investigation into the Benghazi Terrorist Attacks Timeline of Investigation to date, no. 70, 12/04/14]

    House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence hearing, Full Committee Hearing on Benghazi Investigation held 9/12/13. [House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI) Investigation into the Benghazi Terrorist Attacks Timeline of Investigation to date, no. 74, 12/04/14]

    House Committee on Foreign Affairs hearing, Benghazi: Where is the State Department Accountability? held 9/18/13. [Benghazi: Where is the State Department Accountability?, 9/18/13]

    House Armed Services Subcommittee on Oversights and Investigations hearing, Defense Department’s Posture for September 11, 2013: What are the Lessons of Benghazi? held 9/19/13. [Defense Department’s Posture for September 11, 2013: What are the Lessons of Benghazi?, 9/19/13]

    House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform hearing, Reviews of the Benghazi Attack and Unanswered Questions held 9/19/13. [Reviews of the Benghazi Attack and Unanswered Questions, 9/19/13]

    House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence hearing, The Benghazi Talking Points and Michael J. Morell’s Role in Shaping the Administration’s Narrative held 4/2/15. [The Benghazi Talking Points and Michael J. Morell’s Role in Shaping the Administration’s Narrative, 4/2/14]

    House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform hearing, Benghazi, Instability, and a New Government: Successes and Failures of U.S. Intervention in Libya held 5/1/14. [Benghazi, Instability, and a New Government: Successes and Failures of U.S. Intervention in Libya, 5/1/14]

    House Select Committee on Benghazi hearing, Implementation of the Accountability Review Board Recommendations held 9/17/14. [Implementation of the Accountability Review Board Recommendations, 9/17/14]

    House Select Committee on Benghazi hearing, Reviewing Efforts to Secure U.S. Diplomatic Facilities and Personnel held 12/10/14. [Reviewing Efforts to Secure U.S. Diplomatic Facilities and Personnel, 12/10/14]

    House Select Committee on Benghazi hearing, Status Review of Outstanding Requests held 1/27/15. [Status Review of Outstanding Requests, 1/27/15]


    54: Approximate number of hours spent to date in publicly available hearings about the tragedy in Benghazi.

    Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Government Affairs hearing, Homeland Threats and Agency Responses lasted approximately 1:51:00. According to the hearing transcript, “the committee met, pursuant to notice, at 10:04 a.m.,” and adjourned “at 11:55 p.m. [sic].” [Homeland Threats and Agency Responses, 9/19/12]

    House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform hearing, The Security Failures of Benghazi lasted approximately 4:08 :00. According to the hearing transcript, “the committee met, pursuant to call, at 12:05 p.m.,” and adjourned “at 4:14 p.m.” [The Security Failures of Benghazi, 10/10/12]

    House Committee on Foreign Affairs hearing, Benghazi and Beyond: What Went Wrong on September 11, 2012 and How to Prevent it from Happening at other Frontline Posts, Part I lasted approximately 3:03 :00. According to the hearing minutes, the committee met from 10:05 a.m. to 1:08 p.m. [Benghazi and Beyond: What Went Wrong on September 11, 2012 and How to Prevent it from Happening at other Frontline Posts, Part I, pg. 91, 11/15/12]

    House Committee on Foreign Affairs hearing, Benghazi Attack, Part II: The Report of the Accountability Review Board lasted approximately 2:55 :00. According to the hearing minutes, the committee met from 1:00 p.m. to 4:45 pm, including a 50 minute recess from 2:40 p.m. to 3:30 p.m. [Benghazi Attack, Part II: The Report of the Accountability Review Board, pg. 63, 12/20/12]

    Senate Committee on Foreign Relations hearing, Benghazi: The Attack and the Lessons Learned lasted approximately 1:43 :00. According to the hearing transcript, “the committee met, pursuant to notice, at 8:03 a.m.,” and adjourned “at 9:46 a.m.” [Benghazi: The Attack and the Lessons Learned, 12/20/12]

    House Committee on Foreign Affairs hearing, Terrorist Attack in Benghazi: The Secretary of State’s View lasted approximately 3:01 :00. According to the hearing minutes, the committee met from 2:02 p.m. to 5:03 p.m. [Terrorist Attack in Benghazi: The Secretary of State’s View, 1/23/13]

    Senate Committee on Foreign Relations hearing with Secretary Clinton, Benghazi: The Attacks and the Lessons Learned lasted approximately 2:32 :00. According to the hearing transcript, “the committee met, pursuant to notice, at 9:03 a.m.,” and adjourned “at 11:35 a.m.” [Benghazi: The Attacks and the Lessons Learned, 1/23/13]

    Senate Committee on Armed Services hearing, Department Of Defense’s Response To The Attack On U.S. Facilities In Benghazi, Libya, And The Findings Of Its Internal Review Following The Attack lasted approximately 4:10 :00. According to the hearing transcript, “the committee met, pursuant to notice, at 10:05 a.m.,” and adjourned “at 2:26 p.m.” and included a “recess from 1:25 p.m. to 1:36 p.m.” [Department Of Defense’s Response To The Attack On U.S. Facilities In Benghazi, Libya, And The Findings Of Its Internal Review Following The Attack, 2/7/13]

    House Committee on Government Oversight and Reform hearing, Benghazi: Exposing Failure and Recognizing Courage lasted approximately 5:35 :00. According to the hearing transcript, “the committee met, pursuant to call, at 11:30 a.m.,” and adjourned “at 5:15 p.m.” and included a recess of “about 10 minutes.” [Benghazi: Exposing Failure and Recognizing Courage, 5/8/13]

    House Committee on Foreign Affairs, subcommittee on Terrorism, Nonproliferation, and Trade, and Subcommittee on the Middle East and North Africa joint hearing, The Terrorist Threat in North Africa: Before and After Benghazi lasted approximately 1:45 :00. According to the hearing minutes, the committee met from 10:05 a.m. to 11:50 a.m. [The Terrorist Threat in North Africa: Before and After Benghazi, pg. 67, 7/10/13]

    House Committee on Foreign Affairs hearing, Benghazi: Where is the State Department Accountability? Lasted approximately 2:37 :00. According to the hearing minutes, the committee met from 10:12 a.m. to 12:49 p.m. [Benghazi: Where is the State Department Accountability?, pg. 81, 9/18/13]

    House Armed Services Committee, Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations hearing, Defense Department’s Posture for September 11, 2013: What are the Lessons of Benghazi? Lasted approximately 1:04 :00. According to the hearing transcript, “the subcommittee met pursuant to call, at 4:00 p.m.,” and adjourned “at 5:40 p.m.” to proceed in a closed session. [Defense Department’s Posture for September 11, 2013: What are the Lessons of Benghazi?, 9/19/13]

    House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform hearing, Reviews of the Benghazi Attack and Unanswered Questions lasted approximately 5:37 :39. According to the three part video recording of the hearing, part 1 runs from 00:00 :16 to completion at 2:37 :17, part 2 runs from 00:00 :00 to 2:09 :42, and part 3 runs from 00:1:46 to 00:52 :42. [Reviews of the Benghazi Attack and Unanswered Questions, 9/19/13]

    House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence hearing, The Benghazi Talking Points and Michael J. Morell’s Role in Shaping the Administration’s Narrative lasted approximately 3:04 :27. According to the CSPAN recording of the hearing, the video runs from 00:00:30 to 3:04:57. [The Benghazi Talking Points and Michael J. Morell’s Role in Shaping the Administration’s Narrative, 4/2/14]

    House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform hearing, Benghazi, Instability, and a New Government: Successes and Failures of U.S. Intervention in Libya lasted approximately 2:57 :13. According to the CSPAN recording of the hearing, the video runs from 00:00 :35 to 1:48:45, and from 1:49 :21 to 2:58 :24. [Benghazi, Instability, and a New Government: Successes and Failures of U.S. Intervention in Libya, 5/1/14]

    House Select Committee on Benghazi hearing, Implementation of the Accountability Review Board Recommendations lasted approximately 2:48 :00. According to the hearing transcript, “the committee met pursuant to call, at 10:02 a.m.,” and adjourned “at 12:50 p.m.” [Implementation of the Accountability Review Board Recommendations, 9/17/14]

    House Select Committee on Benghazi hearing, Reviewing Efforts to Secure U.S. Diplomatic Facilities and Personnel lasted approximately 2:36 :20. According to the CSPAN recording of the hearing, the video runs from 00:00:13 to 2:36 :33. [Reviewing Efforts to Secure U.S. Diplomatic Facilities and Personnel, 12/10/14]

    House Select Committee on Benghazi hearing, Status Review of Outstanding Requests lasted approximately 2:20 :00. According to the hearing transcript, “the committee met, pursuant to call, at 10:31 a.m.,” and adjourned “at 12:51 p.m.” [Status Review of Outstanding Requests, 1/27/15]


    QUESTIONS

    2,780: Number of questions asked in public hearings held on the Benghazi tragedy. [CTR Analysis, 4/28/15]



    WITNESSES

    171: Approximate number of witness appearances before House and Senate committees and staff for hearings, briefings, and interviews according to available congressional reports, hearing transcripts, declassified briefing transcripts, committee websites, and fact sheets. [CTR Analysis, 4/28/15]



    REPORTS

    10: Number of published reports on the Benghazi attacks and subsequent investigations.

    State Department Accountability Review Board’s report. [Accountability Review Board, 39 pages, 12/20/12]

    Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs report, Flashing Red: A Special Report on the Terrorist Attack at Benghazi. [Flashing Red: A Special Report on the Terrorist Attack at Benghazi, 31 pages, 12/30/12]

    House Republicans’ Interim Progress Report for the Members of the House Republican Conference on the Events Surrounding the September 11, 2012 Terrorist Attacks in Benghazi Libya. [House GOP Interim Progress Report, 46 pages, 4/23/13]

    Report of the Independent Panel on Best Practices. [Report of the Independent Panel on Best Practices, 53 pages 8/29/13]

    House Oversight’s Interim Report on the Accountability Review Board. [“Interim Report on the Accountability Review Board,” 99 pages, 9/16/13]

    House Oversight Democrat’s Status Update on Investigation of Attacks on U.S. Personnel and Facilities in Benghazi. [“Status Update on Investigation of Attacks on U.S. Personnel and Facilities in Benghazi,” 80 pages, September 2013]

    Senate Select Committee on Intelligence report, Review of the Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Facilities in Benghazi, Libya, September 11-12, 2012. [“Review of the Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Facilities in Benghazi, Libya, September 11-12, 2012,” 85 pages, 1/15/14]

    House Foreign Affairs Majority Staff report, Benghazi: Where is the State Department Accountability? [“Benghazi: Where is the State Department Accountability?,” 28 pages, 2/7/14]

    House Armed Services Committee Majority Interim Report, Benghazi Investigation Update. [“Benghazi Investigation Update,” 31 pages, February 2014]

    House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, Investigative Report on the Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Facilities in Benghazi, Libya, September 11-12, 2012. [“Investigative Report on the Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Facilities in Benghazi, Libya, September 11-12, 2012,” 277 pages, 11/21/14]

    769: Number of pages in published reports on the Benghazi attacks and investigations.



    RECOMMENDATIONS

    29: Number of recommendations issued by the Accountability Review Board and accepted by the State Department to ensure the security of American diplomats serving abroad. [“Benghazi Accountability Review Board Implementation,” state.gov, 1/15/14]



    STATE DEPARTMENT FUNDING

    $700 Million: State Department operational funding threatened by Republicans if officials do not give in to the ongoing “sham investigation.” [ABC News, 6/11/15]



    ACCUSATIONS

    0: Number of investigations that have found any administration wrongdoing related to the Benghazi tragedy. [NPR, 11/24/14]

    0: Number of investigations to find evidence of an intelligence failure leading to the Benghazi tragedy. [LA Times, 11/22/14]

    0: Number of investigations to find evidence of a stand down order. [LA Times, 11/22/14]




    BENGHAZI SELECT COMMITTEE BY THE NUMBERS

    Infinity: Budget granted to the Benghazi Select Committee by the Republican controlled House of Representatives. [Letter to Committee on House Administration Chairman and Ranking Member, 2/5/15]

    $1.8 Million: Approximate cost of the Benghazi Select Committee in 2014. [Letter to Committee on House Administration Chairman and Ranking Member, 2/5/15]

    $2.5 Million: Approximate cost of the Benghazi Select Committee in its first 10 months. [“Benghazi Investigation Now Longer than Iran-Contra and other Investigations,” Benghazi Select Committee Democrats press release, 3/23/15]

    $6 Million: Estimated minimum cost of the Benghazi Select Committee investigation at its current rate. [“Cummings Statement On Gowdy Plan to Release Benghazi Report Months Before 2016 Presidential Election,” Benghazi Select Committee Democrats press release, 4/22/15]

    $8,000: Estimated daily cost of the Benghazi Select Committee investigation at its current rate. [Letter to Committee on House Administration Chairman and Ranking Member, 2/5/15]

    3: Number of public hearings held by the Benghazi Select Committee since its formation in May 2014. [Select Committee on Benghazi, accessed 4/23/15]

    $1.35 Million: Approximate total salary expenditures in 2014 for Benghazi Select Committee staff. [Legistorm, accessed 4/24/15]

    29: Number of professional staff members who have worked on the Benghazi Select Committee according to Legistorm. [Legistorm, accessed 4/24/15]

    40,000: Approximate number of pages of documents provided by the State Department for Select Committee review. [“Documents Show Benghazi Select Committee’s Role in Glacial Pace,” Select Committee Democrats press release, 4/23/15]

    300: Approximate number of Secretary Clinton’s emails related to Benghazi and provided to the Select Committee. [New York Times, 3/3/15]

    900: Approximate number of pages of Secretary Clinton’s emails provided to the Select Committee. [New York Times, 3/3/15]

    20: Approximate number witnesses brought in for interviews with the Select Committee to date. [Bloomberg, 4/22/15]

    40-50: Number of interviews planned by the Select Committee with members of the Obama administration, including officials who have previously testified, delivered briefings, or have been interviewed by other committees. [Bloomberg, 4/22/15]

    5: Number of months Secretary Clinton has been waiting to testify in an open, public hearing before the Select Committee on the tragedy in Benghazi and her email use. [Clinton Attorney Letter to Chairman Gowdy, 4/22/15]

    136: Number of written questions posed by Benghazi Select Committee Chairman Trey Gowdy in a letter to Secretary Clinton’s attorney. [Chairman Gowdy letter to Clinton attorney, 4/23/15]

    8: Number of questions, out of 136 posed by the Select Committee in a letter to Secretary Clinton, directly related to the tragedy in Benghazi. [Washington Post, 4/23/15]

    2016: Year the Select Committee suggested it would release a final report, making it the longest congressional investigation in U.S. history, and ensuring the investigation continues well into the presidential campaign cycle. [MSNBC, 4/23/15]
    Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

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    All this shit is being dragged out so that they can "report" it on Foxtard News in the middle of the election campaign - forgetting that only the foxtards watch that shit and they don't vote Dem anyway.

    Republicans are such retards, which is why El Trumpo is their favourite.

    I would absolutely fucking love it if he won the nomination.


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    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth View Post

    2016: Year the Select Committee suggested it would release a final report, making it the longest congressional investigation in U.S. history, and ensuring the investigation continues well into the presidential campaign cycle. [MSNBC, 4/23/15]
    Says it all, man...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth View Post

    2016: Year the Select Committee suggested it would release a final report, making it the longest congressional investigation in U.S. history, and ensuring the investigation continues well into the presidential campaign cycle. [MSNBC, 4/23/15]
    Says it all, man...
    What it says Booners is that you don't believe that Gowdy has been instructed to drag his pointless kangaroo court out until the Election.

    Are you really that dim?

    This show trial has now lasted longer than:

    Hurricane Katrina response investigation (5mths)

    Pearl Harbour (9mths)

    Warren Commission (10mths)

    Iran Contra (10mths).

    Really, it's so obviously nothing more than a political stunt, it's hilarious that anyone takes it seriously. I was going to say they would have to be a real dumbass, and then I remembered.......





    Every poker player has experienced this moment.

    The hand is over. You show a winning hand and your opponent sits still. They grimace, while looking down at their cards hoping somehow they will change. Maybe they let out an annoyed sigh. All this whiny display accomplishes is wasting the time of every other player at the table.

    The dealer is frozen, unable deliver the pot to the winner until your opponent shows his cards or folds.

    As chairman of the Benghazi Select Committee, Trey Gowdy has become that poker player. Earlier this week the Democratic staff of the committee put out a press release comparing the time spent by the Gowdy committee— 10 months and 15 days— to that taken by other historic high-profile Congressional committees and commissions to complete their investigations:

    Hurricane Katrina
    Entity: Select Bipartisan Committee to Investigate the Preparation for and Response to Hurricane Katrina

    Length of investigation: 5 months and 1 day (2005-2006)

    The Bombing of Pearl Harbor
    Entity: Joint Committee on Investigations of the Pearl Harbor Attack

    Length of investigation: 9 months and 15 days (1945-1946)

    The Assassination of President John F. Kennedy
    Entity: The President's Commission on the Assassination of President Kennedy (popularly known as the Warren Commission)

    Length of investigation: 9 months and 27 days (1963-1964)

    The Iran-Contra Affair
    Entity: Select Committee to Investigate Covert Arms Transactions with Iran

    Length of investigation: 10 months and 13 days (1987)



    We are nearly 11 months into Trey Gowdy’s investigation, yet no real progress has been made. Three public hearings have been held, two of them at the behest of Democrats on the committee to insure the recommendations of the Accountability Review Board Investigation, that was completed less than four months after the attack, are being implemented. Gowdy held a third hearing in January to berate Deputy Assistant Secretary for House Affairs Joel Rubin for not responding to document requests quickly enough for his taste. The committee made these requests on November 18.

    After investigations by the Senate Intelligence Committee, the House Armed Services Committee, the House Intelligence Committee, the House Committee on Government Oversight and Reform, and the Accountability Review Board that have all taken place since the September 11, 2012 attack, what is taking Trey Gowdy so long to reach his conclusions?

    This week's news perhaps revealed the reason. The New York Times's Michael Schmidt reported on the content of Hillary Clinton’s emails handed over to the committee:

    The roughly 300 emails from Mrs. Clinton’s private account that were turned over last month to a House committee investigating the attack showed the secretary and her aides closely monitoring the fallout from the tragedy, which threatened to damage her image and reflect poorly on the State Department.

    They provided no evidence that Mrs. Clinton, as the most incendiary Republican attacks have suggested, issued a “stand down” order to halt American forces responding to the violence in Benghazi, or took part in a broad cover-up of the administration’s response, according to senior American officials.

    But they did show that Mrs. Clinton’s top aides at times corresponded with her about State Department matters from their personal email accounts, raising questions about her recent assertions that she made it her practice to email aides at their government addresses so the messages would be preserved, in compliance with federal record-keeping regulations.

    There you have it: an accounting of Hillary Clinton’s emails handed over to the committee, and the most shocking revelations are that she was concerned about her public profile (what politician isn’t?) and that she did sometimes email State Department staff on their personal email accounts. (Which was already widely known.)

    I am a betting man. And I would place a substantial wager on the fact that there is nothing else in those Hillary emails and nothing else in any documents that will be Rosetta Stone for Republican Benghazi conspiracy theories. That’s why Hillary Clinton herself and the Democratic members of the committee have asked that the emails be released. They will be, and there will be nothing there.

    How do I know this? Gowdy himself acknowledged as much to Politico, telling National Editor Michael Hirsch that “he’s ‘seen no evidence’ that Clinton ordered a stand-down of security forces in Benghazi, contributing to the deaths of Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans on Sept. 11, 2012, or any of the other more damning things the right typically alleges.”

    This follows multiple investigations finding that there was no stand-down order and no evidence of the numerous other conspiracy theories Republican members of Congress and conservatives in the media have put forward.

    Trey Gowdy is left staring down at some pretty bad cards. He can’t fold and toss his cards into the muck. That would be an acknowledgment that the millions spent on the investigation have been a waste. So instead he stalls, hoping beyond hope that somehow the hand he is dealt magically changes.

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    We'll see what lies and obfuscations Grandma Clinton comes up with when she appears befor Congress again.

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    We'll see what lies and obfuscations Grandma Clinton comes up with when she appears befor Congress again.
    "Did you issue a stand down order?".

    "No".

    "Errrr...................Errrr...............Err.. ...............BENGHAZI!".


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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    We'll see what lies and obfuscations Grandma Clinton comes up with when she appears befor Congress again.
    "Did you issue a stand down order?".

    "No".

    "Errrr...................Errrr...............Err.. ...............BENGHAZI!".

    Now you seriously think she's telling the truth, do you?

    Like it would have been the first time in her life if she had...

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth View Post

    2016: Year the Select Committee suggested it would release a final report, making it the longest congressional investigation in U.S. history, and ensuring the investigation continues well into the presidential campaign cycle. [MSNBC, 4/23/15]
    Says it all, man...
    What it says Booners is that you don't believe that Gowdy has been instructed to drag his pointless kangaroo court out until the Election.

    Are you really that dim?

    This show trial has now lasted longer than:

    Hurricane Katrina response investigation (5mths)

    Pearl Harbour (9mths)

    Warren Commission (10mths)

    Iran Contra (10mths).

    Really, it's so obviously nothing more than a political stunt, it's hilarious that anyone takes it seriously. I was going to say they would have to be a real dumbass, and then I remembered.......





    Every poker player has experienced this moment.

    The hand is over. You show a winning hand and your opponent sits still. They grimace, while looking down at their cards hoping somehow they will change. Maybe they let out an annoyed sigh. All this whiny display accomplishes is wasting the time of every other player at the table.

    The dealer is frozen, unable deliver the pot to the winner until your opponent shows his cards or folds.

    As chairman of the Benghazi Select Committee, Trey Gowdy has become that poker player. Earlier this week the Democratic staff of the committee put out a press release comparing the time spent by the Gowdy committee— 10 months and 15 days— to that taken by other historic high-profile Congressional committees and commissions to complete their investigations:

    Hurricane Katrina
    Entity: Select Bipartisan Committee to Investigate the Preparation for and Response to Hurricane Katrina

    Length of investigation: 5 months and 1 day (2005-2006)

    The Bombing of Pearl Harbor
    Entity: Joint Committee on Investigations of the Pearl Harbor Attack

    Length of investigation: 9 months and 15 days (1945-1946)

    The Assassination of President John F. Kennedy
    Entity: The President's Commission on the Assassination of President Kennedy (popularly known as the Warren Commission)

    Length of investigation: 9 months and 27 days (1963-1964)

    The Iran-Contra Affair
    Entity: Select Committee to Investigate Covert Arms Transactions with Iran

    Length of investigation: 10 months and 13 days (1987)



    We are nearly 11 months into Trey Gowdy’s investigation, yet no real progress has been made. Three public hearings have been held, two of them at the behest of Democrats on the committee to insure the recommendations of the Accountability Review Board Investigation, that was completed less than four months after the attack, are being implemented. Gowdy held a third hearing in January to berate Deputy Assistant Secretary for House Affairs Joel Rubin for not responding to document requests quickly enough for his taste. The committee made these requests on November 18.

    After investigations by the Senate Intelligence Committee, the House Armed Services Committee, the House Intelligence Committee, the House Committee on Government Oversight and Reform, and the Accountability Review Board that have all taken place since the September 11, 2012 attack, what is taking Trey Gowdy so long to reach his conclusions?

    This week's news perhaps revealed the reason. The New York Times's Michael Schmidt reported on the content of Hillary Clinton’s emails handed over to the committee:

    The roughly 300 emails from Mrs. Clinton’s private account that were turned over last month to a House committee investigating the attack showed the secretary and her aides closely monitoring the fallout from the tragedy, which threatened to damage her image and reflect poorly on the State Department.

    They provided no evidence that Mrs. Clinton, as the most incendiary Republican attacks have suggested, issued a “stand down” order to halt American forces responding to the violence in Benghazi, or took part in a broad cover-up of the administration’s response, according to senior American officials.

    But they did show that Mrs. Clinton’s top aides at times corresponded with her about State Department matters from their personal email accounts, raising questions about her recent assertions that she made it her practice to email aides at their government addresses so the messages would be preserved, in compliance with federal record-keeping regulations.

    There you have it: an accounting of Hillary Clinton’s emails handed over to the committee, and the most shocking revelations are that she was concerned about her public profile (what politician isn’t?) and that she did sometimes email State Department staff on their personal email accounts. (Which was already widely known.)

    I am a betting man. And I would place a substantial wager on the fact that there is nothing else in those Hillary emails and nothing else in any documents that will be Rosetta Stone for Republican Benghazi conspiracy theories. That’s why Hillary Clinton herself and the Democratic members of the committee have asked that the emails be released. They will be, and there will be nothing there.

    How do I know this? Gowdy himself acknowledged as much to Politico, telling National Editor Michael Hirsch that “he’s ‘seen no evidence’ that Clinton ordered a stand-down of security forces in Benghazi, contributing to the deaths of Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans on Sept. 11, 2012, or any of the other more damning things the right typically alleges.”

    This follows multiple investigations finding that there was no stand-down order and no evidence of the numerous other conspiracy theories Republican members of Congress and conservatives in the media have put forward.

    Trey Gowdy is left staring down at some pretty bad cards. He can’t fold and toss his cards into the muck. That would be an acknowledgment that the millions spent on the investigation have been a waste. So instead he stalls, hoping beyond hope that somehow the hand he is dealt magically changes.


    Why do you not mention the fact that the govt. does not give requested information in a timely manner and Clonton has been avoiding testifying in front of the committee for hoy long now. Who is really slowing down the committee?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
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    We'll see what lies and obfuscations Grandma Clinton comes up with when she appears befor Congress again.
    "Did you issue a stand down order?".

    "No".

    "Errrr...................Errrr...............Err.. ...............BENGHAZI!".

    Now you seriously think she's telling the truth, do you?

    Like it would have been the first time in her life if she had...
    Your own party said it you moron. Read your own select committee report dumbass.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth View Post

    2016: Year the Select Committee suggested it would release a final report, making it the longest congressional investigation in U.S. history, and ensuring the investigation continues well into the presidential campaign cycle. [MSNBC, 4/23/15]
    Says it all, man...
    What it says Booners is that you don't believe that Gowdy has been instructed to drag his pointless kangaroo court out until the Election.

    Are you really that dim?

    This show trial has now lasted longer than:

    Hurricane Katrina response investigation (5mths)

    Pearl Harbour (9mths)

    Warren Commission (10mths)

    Iran Contra (10mths).

    Really, it's so obviously nothing more than a political stunt, it's hilarious that anyone takes it seriously. I was going to say they would have to be a real dumbass, and then I remembered.......





    Every poker player has experienced this moment.

    The hand is over. You show a winning hand and your opponent sits still. They grimace, while looking down at their cards hoping somehow they will change. Maybe they let out an annoyed sigh. All this whiny display accomplishes is wasting the time of every other player at the table.

    The dealer is frozen, unable deliver the pot to the winner until your opponent shows his cards or folds.

    As chairman of the Benghazi Select Committee, Trey Gowdy has become that poker player. Earlier this week the Democratic staff of the committee put out a press release comparing the time spent by the Gowdy committee— 10 months and 15 days— to that taken by other historic high-profile Congressional committees and commissions to complete their investigations:

    Hurricane Katrina
    Entity: Select Bipartisan Committee to Investigate the Preparation for and Response to Hurricane Katrina

    Length of investigation: 5 months and 1 day (2005-2006)

    The Bombing of Pearl Harbor
    Entity: Joint Committee on Investigations of the Pearl Harbor Attack

    Length of investigation: 9 months and 15 days (1945-1946)

    The Assassination of President John F. Kennedy
    Entity: The President's Commission on the Assassination of President Kennedy (popularly known as the Warren Commission)

    Length of investigation: 9 months and 27 days (1963-1964)

    The Iran-Contra Affair
    Entity: Select Committee to Investigate Covert Arms Transactions with Iran

    Length of investigation: 10 months and 13 days (1987)



    We are nearly 11 months into Trey Gowdy’s investigation, yet no real progress has been made. Three public hearings have been held, two of them at the behest of Democrats on the committee to insure the recommendations of the Accountability Review Board Investigation, that was completed less than four months after the attack, are being implemented. Gowdy held a third hearing in January to berate Deputy Assistant Secretary for House Affairs Joel Rubin for not responding to document requests quickly enough for his taste. The committee made these requests on November 18.

    After investigations by the Senate Intelligence Committee, the House Armed Services Committee, the House Intelligence Committee, the House Committee on Government Oversight and Reform, and the Accountability Review Board that have all taken place since the September 11, 2012 attack, what is taking Trey Gowdy so long to reach his conclusions?

    This week's news perhaps revealed the reason. The New York Times's Michael Schmidt reported on the content of Hillary Clinton’s emails handed over to the committee:

    The roughly 300 emails from Mrs. Clinton’s private account that were turned over last month to a House committee investigating the attack showed the secretary and her aides closely monitoring the fallout from the tragedy, which threatened to damage her image and reflect poorly on the State Department.

    They provided no evidence that Mrs. Clinton, as the most incendiary Republican attacks have suggested, issued a “stand down” order to halt American forces responding to the violence in Benghazi, or took part in a broad cover-up of the administration’s response, according to senior American officials.

    But they did show that Mrs. Clinton’s top aides at times corresponded with her about State Department matters from their personal email accounts, raising questions about her recent assertions that she made it her practice to email aides at their government addresses so the messages would be preserved, in compliance with federal record-keeping regulations.

    There you have it: an accounting of Hillary Clinton’s emails handed over to the committee, and the most shocking revelations are that she was concerned about her public profile (what politician isn’t?) and that she did sometimes email State Department staff on their personal email accounts. (Which was already widely known.)

    I am a betting man. And I would place a substantial wager on the fact that there is nothing else in those Hillary emails and nothing else in any documents that will be Rosetta Stone for Republican Benghazi conspiracy theories. That’s why Hillary Clinton herself and the Democratic members of the committee have asked that the emails be released. They will be, and there will be nothing there.

    How do I know this? Gowdy himself acknowledged as much to Politico, telling National Editor Michael Hirsch that “he’s ‘seen no evidence’ that Clinton ordered a stand-down of security forces in Benghazi, contributing to the deaths of Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans on Sept. 11, 2012, or any of the other more damning things the right typically alleges.”

    This follows multiple investigations finding that there was no stand-down order and no evidence of the numerous other conspiracy theories Republican members of Congress and conservatives in the media have put forward.

    Trey Gowdy is left staring down at some pretty bad cards. He can’t fold and toss his cards into the muck. That would be an acknowledgment that the millions spent on the investigation have been a waste. So instead he stalls, hoping beyond hope that somehow the hand he is dealt magically changes.


    Why do you not mention the fact that the govt. does not give requested information in a timely manner and Clonton has been avoiding testifying in front of the committee for hoy long now. Who is really slowing down the committee?
    Clonton?

    FFS.

    Only an idiot doesn't realise this kangaroo court is designed to go into 2016.

    And the Dems know that people are already tired of hearing the same old bullshit, and don't care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
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    We'll see what lies and obfuscations Grandma Clinton comes up with when she appears befor Congress again.
    "Did you issue a stand down order?".

    "No".

    "Errrr...................Errrr...............Err.. ...............BENGHAZI!".

    Now you seriously think she's telling the truth, do you?

    Like it would have been the first time in her life if she had...
    Your own party said it you moron. Read your own select committee report dumbass.

    It's pitiful . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    Read your own select committee report dumbass.
    Read?? READ??!!?!?!? What are you, some sort of pointy-headed elitist?

    readin' is fer fagz an' dems 'less it be skriptur.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slackula View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    Read your own select committee report dumbass.
    Read?? READ??!!?!?!? What are you, some sort of pointy-headed elitist?

    readin' is fer fagz an' dems 'less it be skriptur.
    Ceptin wen it's 'Bengazee'

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
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    2016: Year the Select Committee suggested it would release a final report, making it the longest congressional investigation in U.S. history, and ensuring the investigation continues well into the presidential campaign cycle. [MSNBC, 4/23/15]
    Says it all, man...
    What it says Booners is that you don't believe that Gowdy has been instructed to drag his pointless kangaroo court out until the Election.

    Are you really that dim?




    This show trial has now lasted longer than:

    Hurricane Katrina response investigation (5mths)

    Pearl Harbour (9mths)

    Warren Commission (10mths)

    Iran Contra (10mths).

    Really, it's so obviously nothing more than a political stunt, it's hilarious that anyone takes it seriously. I was going to say they would have to be a real dumbass, and then I remembered.......





    Every poker player has experienced this moment.

    The hand is over. You show a winning hand and your opponent sits still. They grimace, while looking down at their cards hoping somehow they will change. Maybe they let out an annoyed sigh. All this whiny display accomplishes is wasting the time of every other player at the table.

    The dealer is frozen, unable deliver the pot to the winner until your opponent shows his cards or folds.

    As chairman of the Benghazi Select Committee, Trey Gowdy has become that poker player. Earlier this week the Democratic staff of the committee put out a press release comparing the time spent by the Gowdy committee— 10 months and 15 days— to that taken by other historic high-profile Congressional committees and commissions to complete their investigations:

    Hurricane Katrina
    Entity: Select Bipartisan Committee to Investigate the Preparation for and Response to Hurricane Katrina

    Length of investigation: 5 months and 1 day (2005-2006)

    The Bombing of Pearl Harbor
    Entity: Joint Committee on Investigations of the Pearl Harbor Attack

    Length of investigation: 9 months and 15 days (1945-1946)

    The Assassination of President John F. Kennedy
    Entity: The President's Commission on the Assassination of President Kennedy (popularly known as the Warren Commission)

    Length of investigation: 9 months and 27 days (1963-1964)

    The Iran-Contra Affair
    Entity: Select Committee to Investigate Covert Arms Transactions with Iran

    Length of investigation: 10 months and 13 days (1987)



    We are nearly 11 months into Trey Gowdy’s investigation, yet no real progress has been made. Three public hearings have been held, two of them at the behest of Democrats on the committee to insure the recommendations of the Accountability Review Board Investigation, that was completed less than four months after the attack, are being implemented. Gowdy held a third hearing in January to berate Deputy Assistant Secretary for House Affairs Joel Rubin for not responding to document requests quickly enough for his taste. The committee made these requests on November 18.

    After investigations by the Senate Intelligence Committee, the House Armed Services Committee, the House Intelligence Committee, the House Committee on Government Oversight and Reform, and the Accountability Review Board that have all taken place since the September 11, 2012 attack, what is taking Trey Gowdy so long to reach his conclusions?

    This week's news perhaps revealed the reason. The New York Times's Michael Schmidt reported on the content of Hillary Clinton’s emails handed over to the committee:

    The roughly 300 emails from Mrs. Clinton’s private account that were turned over last month to a House committee investigating the attack showed the secretary and her aides closely monitoring the fallout from the tragedy, which threatened to damage her image and reflect poorly on the State Department.

    They provided no evidence that Mrs. Clinton, as the most incendiary Republican attacks have suggested, issued a “stand down” order to halt American forces responding to the violence in Benghazi, or took part in a broad cover-up of the administration’s response, according to senior American officials.

    But they did show that Mrs. Clinton’s top aides at times corresponded with her about State Department matters from their personal email accounts, raising questions about her recent assertions that she made it her practice to email aides at their government addresses so the messages would be preserved, in compliance with federal record-keeping regulations.

    There you have it: an accounting of Hillary Clinton’s emails handed over to the committee, and the most shocking revelations are that she was concerned about her public profile (what politician isn’t?) and that she did sometimes email State Department staff on their personal email accounts. (Which was already widely known.)

    I am a betting man. And I would place a substantial wager on the fact that there is nothing else in those Hillary emails and nothing else in any documents that will be Rosetta Stone for Republican Benghazi conspiracy theories. That’s why Hillary Clinton herself and the Democratic members of the committee have asked that the emails be released. They will be, and there will be nothing there.

    How do I know this? Gowdy himself acknowledged as much to Politico, telling National Editor Michael Hirsch that “he’s ‘seen no evidence’ that Clinton ordered a stand-down of security forces in Benghazi, contributing to the deaths of Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans on Sept. 11, 2012, or any of the other more damning things the right typically alleges.”

    This follows multiple investigations finding that there was no stand-down order and no evidence of the numerous other conspiracy theories Republican members of Congress and conservatives in the media have put forward.

    Trey Gowdy is left staring down at some pretty bad cards. He can’t fold and toss his cards into the muck. That would be an acknowledgment that the millions spent on the investigation have been a waste. So instead he stalls, hoping beyond hope that somehow the hand he is dealt magically changes.


    Why do you not mention the fact that the govt. does not give requested information in a timely manner and Clonton has been avoiding testifying in front of the committee for hoy long now. Who is really slowing down the committee?
    Clonton?

    FFS.

    Only an idiot doesn't realise this kangaroo court is designed to go into 2016.

    And the Dems know that people are already tired of hearing the same old bullshit, and don't care.


    Why did you avoid answering the question?

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    Why did you avoid answering the question?
    No surprise there. That's his MO...

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