Thread: John McCain

Here's a happy thread dedicated to Sen. John McCain.


What are your thoughts and opinions?


Over to you....

McCain caved in and allowed Bush to continue to kidnap, torture, and hold suspects.

A person with these morals cannot be trusted as President.

Originally Posted by raycarey

yeah, who wants campaign finance reform?

Do you like your 527's?

If so you can thank McCain-Feingold!
IMHO it created a bigger mess than it solved.

Originally Posted by floorpotato

Originally Posted by raycarey

he had his chance in 2000, but got smeared in s. carolina by bush's people, and his campaign went right off the rails. since then, the 'straight talk' is long gone, and he waffles amost as much as romney.

I agree with you on all points of your post. Carl Rove must have pictures of McCain having carnal knowledge with a goat somewhere, because McCain's loyalty to Bush is puzzling. The Bush operatives apparently spread a rumor during the South Carolina primary that McCain fathered an illegitimate black child. For what it's worth, I don't think McCain will survive past the first primary, he has no core beliefs. And as you pointed out, his love for Jesus is not comprehensive enough for the religious kooks.

Bold above

This has been proven as a FACT.

This is called "push-polling."

A person calls the home of a person in a district and/or state where there is an election coming up.

The caller identifies themselves as a pollster to this registered voter.


The caller then asks a hypothetical question.

to paraphrase:

"would you vote for John McCain is he had a racially mixed child from an affair?"

That's all they ask.

And this references is to the daughter of Bangladeshi descent that McCain adopted years before.

Pretty sick. Pretty sad. But true.

And....did the media report this?


Heck, no.

Unless he's somehow drummed up some serious corporate backers, he's got no chance.

^ Agree.

Originally Posted by floorpotato

The Bush operatives apparently spread a rumor during the South Carolina primary that McCain fathered an illegitimate black child.

Funny he doesn't look black!

"McCain blasts Rumsfeld for Iraq war missteps"

McCain blames Rumsfeld for missteps - Politics - MSNBC.com

Uh, hello, isn't Bush the CiC? If there's blame for the war going badly the blame lies with Bush.

McCain can't even blame the right person for this disaster.

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

Originally Posted by floorpotato

The Bush operatives apparently spread a rumor during the South Carolina primary that McCain fathered an illegitimate black child.

Funny he doesn't look black!

Yeah, it's a reference to his adopted daughter from Bangladesh.

Originally Posted by raycarey

Originally Posted by surasak

If there's blame for the war going badly the blame lies with Bush. McCain can't even blame the right person for this disaster.

rummy was reponsible for the 'plan', so he bears responsibility for its failure...especially not having enough troops on the ground back in 2003. bush does share in some of the blame...particularly for running for an office he wasn't qualified to hold.

Classic knee jerk thinking.

Originally Posted by raycarey

Originally Posted by surasak

If there's blame for the war going badly the blame lies with Bush. McCain can't even blame the right person for this disaster.

rummy was reponsible for the 'plan', so he bears responsibility for its failure...especially not having enough troops on the ground back in 2003. bush does share in some of the blame...particularly for running for an office he wasn't qualified to hold.

There were many people involved in the Iraq debacle: Paul Wolfawitz, Rumsfeld, Tommy Franks, Doug Feith, W. Bush, Cheney, and a list of others.

When a leader is not secure and knowledgeable, he can more easily be lead and influenced.

Originally Posted by raycarey

Originally Posted by Milkman

There were many people involved in the Iraq debacle:

but it was rummy who was hell-bent on leaving his mark' on the military by reducing its size. he used iraq as a petri dish, and got his (and america's) ass kicked.

Yes,

He wanted a smaller, faster, technological force.

This was to be the "new military model."


A lot of blame does fairly lie with Rumsfeld.

Originally Posted by Milkman

Just a paste from the other thread in this section:

i posted it in the other thread, because some jumped all over obama for saying the same thing.

IMO their lives were wasted.

McCain may have had some nasty things done to his backside while stayin at the Hanoi Hilton , can't have a president like that.

Originally Posted by YellowTrip

McCain may have had some nasty things done to his backside while stayin at the Hanoi Hilton , can't have a president like that.

And he may had done some things too.....Give....receive....ya know.


I doubt he learned the language in his 5 years at that hotel.

John Mcain Warns Against Socialism .

He's been pretty far down on my list as possible candidates for the White House but if he does grow a set I might reconsider.

People who start crying about their love for the USA during political speaches are dangerous and best kept out of politics.

^^ Yes, now he is only warning for socialism, but wait until he grows to a real McCarthy and fights the communism

It's good to know that someone takes the responsibility of informing amerka that socialist leaders inspire and get ideas from each other.
And that he finds it disturbing

I find him very naive.

^ This is another reason why McCain is a joke.

There is no socialism in Latin America (save Cuba).


A couple of countries (Bolivia and Venezuela) have gotten more stringent against.....American companies there.....

2 countries out of....over 25......


Hmm......somebody is grasping at straws....and they are 72 years old.

Originally Posted by Milkman

Hmm......somebody is grasping at straws....and they are 72 years old.

Those 5 years in the Hanoi Hilton didn't do his mind any good...

Originally Posted by Milkman

Hmm......somebody is grasping at straws....and they are 72 years old.

Full scale real socialism is soooooo last century. It is a dead give away as to a posters age if they start banging on about "the red peril" etc... Papa and pawthoo from ajarn are two good examples

Originally Posted by mad_dog

Originally Posted by Milkman

Hmm......somebody is grasping at straws....and they are 72 years old.

Full scale real socialism is soooooo last century. It is a dead give away as to a posters age if they start banging on about "the red peril" etc... Papa and pawthoo from ajarn are two good examples

Brilliant point, mad_dog.

The US politicians rarely play this old outdated card, but it looks like McCain is.


And I don't think anyone is paying attention.