John McCain

^H.T.G., It's strange, but I cannot deny a green to you... :)

A good reading:
https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...verick-202004/

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you seem very bothered about how people are remembering mccain.

is it because he said russia was a gas station masquerading as a country?

that's got to sting, eh comrade?

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Originally Posted by raycarey

is it because he said russia was a gas station masquerading as a country?

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:smileylaughing:

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Originally Posted by Cujo

Trump-McCain rift clear as president sends brief tweet and heads to play golf
No White House statement issued in hours after McCain’s death
Trump tweets familiar complaints and boasts about economy






The rift between Donald Trump and John McCain remained painfully evident on Sunday, as tributes for the late senator poured in from world leaders and past presidents.
The White House issued no statement and Trump followed up a brief Twitter condolence to McCain’s family – sent amid the first rush of tributes on Saturday – with complaints about the Russia investigation and boasts about the economy. Then he headed for the golf course.


McCain’s wish that Trump not receive an invitation to his funeral, made public some months ago, remained unchanged upon his death from brain cancer on Saturday, at his home in Arizona and with his family by his side.
Instead, George W Bush, who beat McCain for the Republican nomination in 2000, and Barack Obama, who beat him soundly for the White House in 2008, have been asked to speak at the event, which will take place at the United States Naval Academy in Maryland on a day as yet unannounced.


In a statement on Saturday, Obama saluted McCain’s “fidelity to something higher – the ideals for which generations of Americans and immigrants alike have fought, marched, and sacrificed”.


Bush praised a “man of deep conviction” and a “public servant in the finest traditions of our country”.


In emotional appearances across the Sunday talk shows, Jeff Flake, Arizona’s other senator and a critic of Trump, called for McCain’s legacy of “putting the good of the country above your own self-interest” to be carried forward in a deeply divided Congress, at a time that was “never more important”.
He expressed optimism that leaders would rise who would put the good of the country above themselves
Senator Jeff Flake
Flake, who will retire from the Senate this year and is widely seen as an outside bet to challenge Trump from within the Republican party in 2020, was circumspect in answer to questions about the president. He also discussed his last conversation with McCain.
“He expressed optimism that leaders would rise to the fore in the future who would put the good of the country above themselves,” Flake told CNN’s State of the Union, “and I think we ought to take that forward.”
“In these days,” Flake said, it was a lesson all could learn.


The American flag was flying at half mast at the White House on Sunday, while plans were made for McCain’s body, which was first taken to the Arizona state capital, Phoenix, to lie in state in the Capitol. There will be a memorial service on Saturday and McCain will be buried at the US Naval Academy in Annapolis on Sunday.


The dispute between McCain and Trump was stark. The senator fought in the Vietnam war as a navy pilot and in 1967 was shot down and badly injured. He spent more than five years as a prisoner of war in Hanoi and was tortured and beaten. He declined an offer of early release, out of solidarity with his fellow PoWs and as a matter of honor.


Trump, who had five deferments from service in Vietnam including one citing “bone spurs” in his foot, mocked McCain during the 2016 election, telling a conference in Iowa: “He’s not a war hero.” Trump added: “He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people that weren’t captured.”
The Washington Post reported on Friday that Trump has told aides he does not regret the comment.


McCain’s most powerful rejoinder was his decisive no vote, with a dramatic thumbs-down signal on the Senate floor, against Republican efforts to repeal the Affordable Care Act, Obama’s flagship legislation that made health insurance affordable for millions of Americans. In public remarks, Trump has repeatedly complained about McCain’s no vote – without mentioning the senator by name.


Vice-president Mike Pence posted a message on Twitter from himself and his wife, Karen, that unlike that from his boss, referred to the man himself.
“Karen and I send our deepest condolences to Cindy and the entire McCain family on the passing of Senator John McCain,” Pence wrote. “We honor his lifetime of service to this nation in our military and in public life. His family and friends will be in our prayers. God bless John McCain.”


McCain strongly opposed Trump’s isolationist world stance that saw the president rail against individual allies and key alliances such as Nato and the G7.


On Sunday the Republican senator Susan Collins, of Maine, also known as a moderate and independent conservative who voted no in the healthcare debate, told CNN: “John McCain was a true patriot.”
She added: “He made it very clear that he disagreed with the direction of this administration. He went a long way to reaffirm our country’s commitment to Nato and other alliances and he encouraged others of us to speak out.”


World leaders with whom Trump has clashed spoke up. Angela Merkel, the chancellor of Germany, called McCain “a tireless fighter for a strong transatlantic alliance” and said: “His significance went well beyond his own country.”


Canadian prime minister Justin Trudeau, who was attacked by Trump after the last G7 meeting, issued a statement on Saturday evening.
“Senator John McCain was an American patriot and hero,” he said, “whose sacrifices for his country and lifetime of public service were an inspiration to millions. Canadians join Americans tonight in celebrating his life and mourning his passing.”


French president Emmanuel Macron tweeted in English that McCain “was a true American hero”.
“He devoted his entire life to his country,” he said.


Hillary Clinton, meanwhile, told NBC’s Meet the Press McCain “understood in the marrow of his bones what it meant to be an American”.
She warned: “Our institutions are being severely tested right now, including his beloved Senate. He was trying, in every way he knew how, to sound the alarm.”


The governor of Arizona, Doug Ducey, will decide on a Republican replacement for McCain, to serve until 2020. Speculation has linked Cindy McCain to her husband’s set but Ducey has said he will not make an announcement until after McCain is laid to rest.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...nt-white-house

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what an amazing demonstration of 2 face by the usual suspects. And they wonder why the old world of politics doesn't appeal to voters anymore and silly Trump got elected.

Former "ennemies" posing as they deserve a speech like they were the best friends in the world,

disgusting, and Obama as usual, that attention whore, on the front mic over this

just let the man RIP,

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Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

McCain has to give THANKS to the North Koreans for his success.

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What relationship does McCain have with North Viet Nam herr Herman?

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Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

McCain would have been a REAL Hero if he would have stood for the BIG mistakes the U.S. has done.
Agent Orange comes to mind......just one of the few.

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McCain was in prison in North Vietnam during this time. He entered politics years later....What could he have done?

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Originally Posted by raycarey

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you seem very bothered about how people are remembering mccain.

is it because he said russia was a gas station masquerading as a country?

that's got to sting, eh comrade?

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Originally Posted by bsnub

:smileylaughing:

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Sorry to disappoint you two:

I am no Russian...

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Originally Posted by Klondyke

I am no Russian...

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Yea...that's what they all say.... :)

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Originally Posted by raycarey

is it because he said russia was a gas station masquerading as a country?

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The dyke reded me for that comment. Russian bot.

How is the weather in Saint Petersburg?

:smileylaughing:

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Originally Posted by Klondyke

I am no Russian...

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:smileylaughing:

god, what a sad retard you make bsnob :)

how is the weather in Seattle ? oh wait, cant see it from your mum basement :)

mixed feelings about mccain: respect him for being a decent human being. am disgusted with him for always siding with the neo-cons (practically being one himself, always supporting the next war: afghanistan, iraq, libyia, syria).

war monger in the end, IMO, in the disguise (maybe not apparent to him) of supporting the spread of democracy.

ironic with his vietnam war experience.

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Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

a decent human being

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???
All in-depth reports of people close to him all over his life would strongly disagree. Even the Ronald Reagan with his Nancy who originally were like tutors to him (due to his Hi-So situation), had later discontinued their contacts with him (for a reason).

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Originally Posted by Klondyke

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All in-depth reports of people close to him all over his life would strongly disagree. Even the Ronald Reagan with his Nancy who originally were like tutors to him (due to his Hi-So situation), had later discontinued their contacts with him (for a reason).

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Well please link us to some of these reports then.

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Originally Posted by Cujo

Well please link us to some of these reports then.

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Did you mis #377? (perhaps, it was all lies...) And many others you can find that haven't been already removed?

(Of course, in official obituaries - and also in his memories - sometimes contradictory - you will read how wonderful was he as a human being...)

I am going to enjoy playing with Klondyke the next few weeks. :)

Play a little tennis, nice long rally's. Back and forth and back and forth.

https://teakdoor.com/attachment.php?a...id=19021&stc=1

The flags are at half mast in Hanoi :smileylaughing:

He's had his chips and will be more respected by colleagues and opponents than the incumbent.
It is almost impossible to imagine a worse president

strange how so many liberals seem to respect MacCain, the worst warmonger since LBJ, Trump on the other hand seems to be doing a pretty good job so far.

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Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

mixed feelings about mccain: respect him for being a decent human being. .

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From the DM when he was running for office, now they are calling him a hero and a maverick

‘My marriage ended because John McCain didn’t want to be 40, he wanted to be 25. You know that happens...it just does.’
Some of McCain’s acquaintances are less forgiving, however. They portray the politician as a self-centred womaniser who effectively abandoned his crippled wife to ‘play the field’. They accuse him of finally settling on Cindy, a former rodeo beauty queen, for financial reasons.

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Originally Posted by Klondyke

Did you mis #377? (perhaps, it was all lies...)

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That reads like a total hit piece written by someone with a grudge. No substance at all. Just a story.

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Originally Posted by Cujo

That reads like a total hit piece written by someone with a grudge. No substance at all. Just a story.

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No substance, it's ALL substance, a complete history of him

But during the course of his medical treatment, McCain followed through on his offer of military information. Only two weeks after his capture, the North Vietnamese press issued a report — picked up by The New York Times — in which McCain was quoted as saying that the war was “moving to the advantage of North Vietnam and the United States appears to be isolated.” He also provided the name of his ship, the number of raids he had flown, his squadron number and the target of his final raid.

<font color="#ffffff"><span style="font-family: Georgia">https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_co...;v=zO0mHEJyC3Y

^Truenews. Must be true fer sure. :rofl:

^ :) Yeah. That’s the guy, Rick Wiles, who said last month that Rachel Maddox called for a coup within three days and that Trump, along with his family, would be dragged out to the White House lawn and decapitated.

Full blown nutter running TruNews.