Thread: GOP and Democratic National Conventions 2012

^ the Empty Chair is probably why he looks like a fool. If it went viral, it just show how many Reps aren't tired of looking ridiculous, which proves my original point.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Eastwood has rattled the Liberal Elite

He was certainly rattled.

So, as a staunch republican guy, what do you think of the total absence of the words 'Tea party' and 'war' from the Romneycon?
I'm really quite surprised they didn't wheel out an old bejewelled war hero actually, if only for token obeisance to the military vote- generally a pretty firm GOP constituency.

Originally Posted by sabang

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Eastwood has rattled the Liberal Elite

He was certainly rattled.

So, as a staunch republican guy, what do you think of the total absence of the words 'Tea party' and 'war' from the Romneycon?
I'm really quite surprised they didn't wheel out an old bejewelled war hero actually, if only for token obeisance to the military vote- generally a pretty firm GOP constituency.

No pressing national defense issues (other than Iran with the Bomb) exist right now so no need to wheel out a General or two this go-around.

Defining the Tea Party is no easy task. Some Tea Partiers come from an elite legal background, such as Texas Senate nominee Ted Cruz, a graduate of Princeton and Harvard Law School, and Sen. Mike Lee, who clerked for Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito. "Tea Party leaders are either grassroots leaders or politicians drawn from the grassroots, whose overriding political concern is with constraining the government using a constitutionally-focused theory"

In addition, Sal Russo, cofounder of the Tea Party Express explains: “The constitution is the Tea Party’s lodestar." “Some of the debate that we see today is ‘should the government solve this problem or not solve this problem?’ This is the fundamental point that the Federal Government should not be solving these problems…Every wrong doesn’t have a government solution.”

Tea Party

There was no over-riding necessity to bring the Tea Party credentials to the forefront during the RNC. There might have been some devisiveness if Palin & Michelle Bachman were speakers though.

^ there have always been these types of nuts in the republican party...but back in the day, they were kept in a cage by the establishment.

the current crop that makes up the establishment was so desperate for any type of victory in 2010 that they let their party be over run by these teabilly f-sticks....and now they don't know what to do with them. it's glaringly obvious to anyone with even the slightest amount of political acumen that they're a danger to the party's long term goals, but it's equally undeniable that they essentially make up what is today's GOP base. it really is quite a mess.

can you even imagine what william f. buckley jr. would have to say about the current state of the republican party?

and btw, it would be interesting to find out what percentage of these teabaggers are tax cheats.

^Their ideas are appealing to a dumbed down populace that wants overnight solutions and easy answers. Their votes count and they are highly energized so I take them as seriously as a heart attack.

Originally Posted by Humbert

^Their ideas are appealing to a dumbed down populace that wants overnight solutions and easy answers. Their votes count and they are highly energized so I take them as seriously as a heart attack.

Heh...who's dumbed-down? Y'all revere the all-mighty State so much "The Government Is The Only Thing." Thomas Jefferson is rolling over in his grave:

DNC Video: "The Government Is The Only Thing We All Belong To" - YouTube

Video that played during the DNC includes the line "The Government Is The Only Thing We All Belong To"

Let's try sorting this out, shall we? Americans do not belong to the government, the government belongs to the people.

Thomas Jefferson: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed...

^ A fairly simple-minded distortion of what the video was about. As I said, I take them seriously but not their half-baked ideas about Thomas Jefferson and snipets of his writings taken out of context.

DNC is happening now. Watch it live...

Watch Live - 2012 Democratic National Convention

Tammy Duckworth's speech was very effective. It only underscored Romney's total lack of recognition for the troops risking their lives in Afganistan.

^ It also highlights the rather strange GOP decision not to parade a medalled old war horse at their conference. Most unlike them, and it's not like the absence was made up by dirty Harry.

Originally Posted by sabang

It also highlights the rather strange GOP decision not to parade a medalled old war horse at their conference.

1. romney's afraid to talk about afghanistan
2. nobody in the GOP wants to even whisper about the iraq failure
3. obama gave the order to get bin laden

The best speech ever given at a political convention bar none.

it was an extremely well written and executed speech.

cue ann romney pouting and acting all bitter.

New York Times Proves Clint Eastwood Correct — Obama Is Lousy CEO.

Kantor’s portrait of Obama is stunning. It paints a picture of a CEO who is unfocused and lost.

Imagine, for a minute, that you are on the board of directors of a company. You have a CEO who is not meeting his numbers and who is suffering a declining popularity with his customers. You want to help this CEO recover, but then you learn he doesn’t want your help. He is smarter than you and eager to tell you this. Confidence or misplaced arrogance? You’re not sure at first. If the company was performing well, you’d ignore it. But the company is performing poorly, so you can’t.

With some digging, you learn, to your horror, that the troubled CEO spends a lot of time on — what the hell? — bowling? Golf? Three point shots? While the company is going south?

What do you do? You fire that CEO. Clint Eastwood was right. You let the guy go."
Heh...from the Liberal NYT no less!

DRUDGE REPORT 2012®

You don't suppose Drudge is suggesting that the Democrats are out of touch with Middle America or what?

Originally Posted by Humbert

The best speech ever given at a political convention bar none.

Not commenting on the speech but -

Strange how in some countries a Presidents/ministers spouse suddenly becomes someone who is given a privileged right and platform to voice their opinions, like in this case, is washing Obamas underwear and dirty socks and minding his children a political qualification endorsed by voters,- no don't think so, neither is it Democratically correct.

Originally Posted by larvidchr

Originally Posted by Humbert

The best speech ever given at a political convention bar none.

Not commenting on the speech but -

Well, allow me.

These speeches that involve personal hardships in earlier life are really old and, rather small beer. It might have been an impassioned defense of her incompetent husband but it didn't focus on his record. Just feel-good platitudes...

She's an OK speaker but what a load of shit. All that guff about Obama being such a loving, wise, hard-working, caring father (praise the Lord!) who just happened to order the executions of his own citizens, intensify the war in Afghanistan and all the time shovel trillions of dollars into the pockets of the richest people in the country. God bless the greatest nation on the planet, my arse. The Democrats clearly aren't as pathologically stupid as the Republicans but that just makes them more culpable for coming out with delusional crap like this. And the Democrats aren't free of the YOO-ESS-AYYY chants, either.

some quotes that are likely to resonate with her target audience:

That's why Barack has fought so hard to increase student aid and keep interest rates down, because he wants every young person to fulfill their promise and be able to attend college without a mountain of debt."

"For Barack, success isn't about how much money you make, it's about the differences you make in people's lives."

"Barack knows the American Dream because he's lived it, and he wants everyone in this country to have the same opportunity, no matter who we are, or where we're from, or what we look like, or who we love."

"And I didn't think that it was possible, but let me tell you today, I love my husband even more than I did four years ago, even more than I did 23 years ago, when we first met."

roll your eyes all you want, but all the polling and research indicates that this type of phrasing plays very well with women....and the bonus is that it happens to be true.

Quotes from Michelle Obama's convention speech - Yahoo! News