Thread: Food Stamps: the latest entitlement

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

the Statist Media

I asked you before to explain what this means in another thread. You either couldnt or wouldnt explain it. You and your ilk consider fox news as the only viable news source all other news outlets are "liberal" or "statist". The problem arises when all the sheep drink from the same poisoned well. They all get the same sickness. That is the case with the right wing in America. They all get their news/information from the same poisoned source. Be it fox, Breitbart, Beck, Limbaugh or a host of other right wing blogs the root source is all the same. The Koch bothers and Murdoch. Sheep marching off the cliff.

Here's a question for all you card-carrying members of the TDMA - why are we always being bombarded about how Social Security is running out of money but we never hear about Welfare & Food Stamps going broke, huh?

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Here's a question for all you card-carrying members of the TDMA - why are we always being bombarded about how Social Security is running out of money but we never hear about Welfare & Food Stamps going broke, huh?

Poor Boontard, must be sucking on the FAUX news tit to think that SS is going to go broke. It's a tall tale oft repeated by the right wing sheeple who obviously have no understanding of how SS actually works.

The fact is that Social Security isn't going bankrupt, nor is bankruptcy really possible as the system is currently set up.

Here's the source of the confusion: Historically, Social Security has collected more than it paid out. The extra money built up in a trust fund that collects interest. But due to demographic and economic changes, it's expected that insurance payments will begin to exceed income in 2021. Around 2033, the fund will run out.

But even then, the revenue Social Security collects each year would still be enough to pay out about three-quarters of scheduled benefits as far as the eye can see.


Source: Social Security Administration.

What would it take to make up for the shortfall? We only need to come up with about 0.9% of GDP in order to make Social Security's revenues match up with its expenses for the next 75 years. To put that into perspective, 0.9% is close to the cost of unemployment insurance, the high-end Bush tax cuts, or one-fifth of the Defense budget. That's not insignificant, but it's hardly apocalyptic.

Source: Congressional Budget Office.

Here's one for you - Rupert Murdoch is not a republican. He is not a right winger. He is a businessman who conspires to keep the masses doing exactly what government tells it to, which in turn is doing what he and his friends tell it to.

Fox is only a GOP in the US because it suit them. However, their real subject matter is only about stirring up hate for the other side just as the rest are there to stir up hate for GOP. They do no reporting; just spout the party line which is what most people here do. Their opinion pieces are written for them by the same people writing the politicians speeches. Why try play them off against each other and point score? There is very little factual on any of the networks.

Originally Posted by TonyBKK

The fact is that Social Security isn't going bankrupt, nor is bankruptcy really possible as the system is currently set up.

Actually yes it is. The US debt is partially secured with the SS pot; it's been spent. So the funds themselves are effectively bankrupt the moment that the repayments stop.

Originally Posted by Gilbert

Here's one for you - Rupert Murdoch is not a republican. He is not a right winger. He is a businessman who conspires to keep the masses doing exactly what government tells it to, which in turn is doing what he and his friends tell it to.

Fox is only a GOP in the US because it suit them. However, their real subject matter is only about stirring up hate for the other side just as the rest are there to stir up hate for GOP. They do no reporting; just spout the party line which is what most people here do. Their opinion pieces are written for them by the same people writing the politicians speeches. Why try play them off against each other and point score? There is very little factual on any of the networks.

Oh really? Thanks for the revelation Gilbert.

Originally Posted by Gilbert

The US debt is partially secured with the SS pot; it's been spent.

This is correct. The politicians robbed Peter to pay Paul that is why the repubtards are hell bent on cutting SS because they robbed it already.

Originally Posted by Gilbert

There is very little factual on any of the networks.

So, if you don't mind me asking, where do you get your "news"?

Originally Posted by Gilbert

Originally Posted by TonyBKK

The fact is that Social Security isn't going bankrupt, nor is bankruptcy really possible as the system is currently set up.

Actually yes it is. The US debt is partially secured with the SS pot; it's been spent. So the funds themselves are effectively bankrupt the moment that the repayments stop.

A pesky little fact our friends on the Left continue to ignore...

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by Gilbert

Originally Posted by TonyBKK

The fact is that Social Security isn't going bankrupt, nor is bankruptcy really possible as the system is currently set up.

Actually yes it is. The US debt is partially secured with the SS pot; it's been spent. So the funds themselves are effectively bankrupt the moment that the repayments stop.

A pesky little fact our friends on the Left continue to ignore...

Wanna preserve Social Security for generations to come?

Repeal the Bush tax cuts for the uber-rich, cut a bit from the defense budget and stop dishing out corporate welfare to profitable companies; problem solved

Originally Posted by Gilbert

The US debt

Read this, there is no problem with the US debt as Boehner and Ryan have admitted:

5 Charts Show the U.S. Has No Debt Crisis | Crooks and Liars

This is worthy of watching. As I've stated for the upteenth time, but individuals and families that truly need this support should get it - but not the fraudsters.

Originally Posted by barbaro

This is worthy of watching. As I've stated for the upteenth time, but individuals and families that truly need this support should get it - but not the fraudsters.

Good to see that the fraudsters are getting caught and prosecuted.

It's a travesty that in the wealthiest nation on the planet some ~47 million Americans are so poor that they had to rely on SNAP to put food on the table last year.

Let us not forget that 72 percent of SNAP participants are in families with children; more than one-quarter of participants are in households with seniors or people with disabilities.

Originally Posted by barbaro

Originally Posted by TonyBKK

Good to see that the fraudsters are getting caught and prosecuted.

But now many are not caught?

In my hometown 2 months ago, I saw a women buy groceries with food stamps and get into a brand new Ford F-150 and drive off. No joke.

So, if it chafes your giblets so bad why don't you rat the scammers out to the authorities?

It's a travesty that in the wealthiest nation on the planet some ~47 million Americans are so poor that they had to rely on SNAP to put food on the table last year.

Tony,

The point of this thread and the theme of my posts is that [i]Food Stamps (snap) has now become an entitlement program. Get as many people to qualify as possible.

This add is one of several:

Watch this 45 second commercial, please. (I cannot embed for some reason)

Varney & Co. Found the USDA Ad Saying Food Stamps Will Help You Look and Feel Good - YouTube

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^ Does this USDA ad offend you in some way?

The U.S. Department of Agriculture has been running radio ads for nearly 20 years encouraging those eligible to enroll. The campaign are targeted at the elderly, working poor, the unemployed and Hispanics.

These ads are an attempt to educate citizens of their rights and they started running back in 2004 when GW Bush, the fella who is largely responsible for the Great Recession, was President.

Food stamp enrollment certainly shot up during the Great Recession, though it has been rising for more than a decade.

President Bush launched the original Food Stamp recruitment campaign, which pushed average participation up by 63% during his eight years in office. The USDA began airing paid radio spots in 2004.

Did it bother you when these ads were running under Dubya?

Where are all the progressive DEMOCRATS that I saw on here 2 years ago giving hell
to anybody with a little common sense. NOT a word. Wow. Must be converting there
goodies (booze drugs) from there EBT cards. haha, Really sad affair. Just collect silver & gold for the big crash. Just CHEAP insurance.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Right back to your old spamming ways only hours out of the clink. The washington examiner is not a creditable source for anything. It is a rightwing alternative reality website.

Look at NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, MSNBC, Just Fox from the right a little.

Which side do you want to be on when Shit hits the fan,HUH

Democrates got all the blacks and most of the crime and food stamps and on and on.

So, if it chafes your giblets so bad why don't you rat the scammers out to the authorities?

Citizens don't witness the fraud. It takes investigators and informants.

Not sure what you point or question is about.

I did not imply the F-150 food stamper was about fraud. Again, it's about the expanded entitlement.

Originally Posted by barbaro

So, if it chafes your giblets so bad why don't you rat the scammers out to the authorities?

Citizens don't witness the fraud. It takes investigators and informants.

Not sure what you point or question is about.

I did not imply the F-150 food stamper was about fraud. Again, it's about the expanded entitlement.

We were talking about EBT fraud and you said:

Originally Posted by barbaro

In my hometown 2 months ago, I saw a women buy groceries with food stamps and get into a brand new Ford F-150 and drive off. No joke.

^ If you're not talking about fraud, what was the point of your statement?

A news item this morning says that not all foods that go past their sell-by dates are not necessarily BAD for you.
Even though they may not taste so good they are still eatable and will not make you sick.
wtf. is going on now.
Having to feed kids with dodgy grub. The left-overs in the market.
Holy Shit.

Originally Posted by billy the kid

A news item this morning says that not all foods that go past their sell-by dates are not necessarily BAD for you.
Even though they may not taste so good they are still eatable and will not make you sick.
wtf. is going on now.
Having to feed kids with dodgy grub. The left-overs in the market.
Holy Shit.

Well it's true, for a start. However what is going on is they are, as Barbaro says, getting as many people as possible onto food stamps etc. Then, when election time comes around, with the GOP saying they would reign them in and get people off the food stamps, the democrips will say to the millions only surviving with foodstamps and the others enjoying them that if GOP took control, they would starve. Who will win the election?

It is scandalous, and exactly the same as the rice pledging scheme in Thailand.

Originally Posted by Gilbert

It is scandalous, and exactly the same as the rice pledging scheme in Thailand.

The scandal is that the working poor can't make enough money to put food on the table in the world's richest country.

Originally Posted by quimbian corholla

Originally Posted by Gilbert

It is scandalous, and exactly the same as the rice pledging scheme in Thailand.

The scandal is that the working poor can't make enough money to put food on the table in the world's richest country.

Indeed. Scandal or just a result of corporate power in the US. Either way, it helps the party who promises to give the most away for free who are happy to continue and start wars but not force their sponsors to pay a decent wage that matches the inflation that has been created by their other backers.

Originally Posted by quimbian corholla

Originally Posted by Gilbert

It is scandalous, and exactly the same as the rice pledging scheme in Thailand.

The scandal is that the working poor can't make enough money to put food on the table in the world's richest country.

The real scandal is that the Republican Party, as part of their ongoing war against the poor, continues to vote down every attempt to raise the minimum wage. Most recently:

House Republicans Unanimously Vote Down Minimum Wage Increase

A proposal by Rep. George Miller (D-Calif.) to raise the federal minimum wage to $10.10 an hour over the next two years and increase the wage for tipped employees to 70 percent of the minimum wage was defeated, with every House Republican voting against the motion. On the Democratic side, six lawmakers voted against the measure, and 184 Democrats voted for it.

House Republicans Unanimously Vote Down Minimum Wage Increase