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    Texas Man Beats His Daughter's Suspected Molester to Death

    My first thought after reading this was, 'Good for the father'- details in the article and news report are very sketchy so far, and there isn't any damning evidence against the accused yet (medical reports will take a few weeks to confirm the assault)- it could certainly be a set-up, but if it's not, I highly doubt there's a jury in the States who would convict the man.

    He beat him to death with his bare hands- how many here would say they would do the same thing to their kid's abuser if given the chance? I'm sure most of them would.

    It will be interesting to see if the guy is charged, and, if so, if he'll be hit with any counts of child endangerment due to leaving his kid unsupervised.

    (There's a video clip if you click on the link, where even the sheriff can't condemn the guy for his actions)



    Sheriff: Father kills man sexually abusing his daughter - CNN.com


    Sheriff: Father kills man sexually abusing his daughter

    By Jack Maddox, CNN
    June 12, 2012 -- Updated 0214 GMT (1014 HKT)

    (CNN) -- A Texas father caught a man sexually assaulting his 4-year-old daughter and punched him in the head repeatedly, killing him, authorities said.
    The father was casually acquainted with the alleged abuser, said Lavaca County Sheriff Micah Harmon.

    Neither has been publicly identified.

    The girl was left inside the family's house during the social gathering, while other members of her family were tending to horses, the sheriff said.

    The alleged abuser was known for his horse-grooming abilities, Harmon said.
    The father returned to the house, caught the man in the act, and stopped him by striking him in the head several times, Harmon said.

    The man was pronounced dead on the scene, while the daughter was taken to a local hospital in Victoria, Texas, for examinations before being released.
    The incident took place Saturday.

    Harmon described the girl as "OK besides the obvious mental trauma."
    Asked whether they would press charges against the father, the sheriff responded, "You have a right to defend your daughter. He acted in defense of his third person. Once the investigation is completed we will submit it to the district attorney who then submits it to the grand jury, who will decide if they will indict him."

    Harmon described the dad as "very remorseful," adding that he didn't know the man was going to die.

    Authorities were withholding the deceased man's name while they notified next of kin. Officials did not know immediately if he has a prior criminal history.
    Lavaca County Precinct Judge Alene Lyons, who is coordinating information in the case including autopsy results, said Monday
    that a preliminary autopsy report indicated the victim "died from blunt-force head and neck injuries."

    "It will take six weeks to get the full report back because they also did a toxicology report," Lyons said.
    There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
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    I once casually and innocently mentioned to a fairly close acquantance that had been getting closer and closer to my my son that I would slit the throat of anyone who interfered with my son, without a second thought.
    He asked how I'd get away with it, I said I'd drag the fucker down an alley where there wouldn't be any witnesses, but getting away with it wouldn't be high on my list of priorities.
    I didn't suspect this guy or anything at the time, it was just talk in passing, but he disappeared out of our lives shortly after.
    I wouldn't think twice.
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    Sounds like the Texan might have saved the state a significant amount of money.
    They'll have to give him "counselling" at least... assuming the guy was guilty of course... if the alleged offender turns out to be innocent, then i guess the Texan is going to have to be BBQed.

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    It would be a good way to set someone up, but I don't think you'd rely on your fists to do the job when the gun laws in Texas are so unrestricted.

    It will be interesting to see if anything happens with this case beyond a simple judgement of justifiable homicide (he was legally defending his child).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bower
    He went way past 'reasonable force' to protect his daughter.
    A person can be killed by one punch...

    Would one punch be "reasonable?"...



    Quote Originally Posted by FailSafe
    caught the man in the act, and stopped him by striking him in the head several times, Harmon said.

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    You are referring to blind rage and very understandable if a father caught another man sexually assaulting his 4 year old daughter.

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    Good on him.

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    Got that right.

    Wouldn't want to live in a world where I couldn't beat some POS like that to death for molesting a child...

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    Agreed, the guy should get off totally free. As the father of twin girls this has always been a nightmare and continues to be. The are getting older and wiser, but at the same time being given much more freedom.

    Quote Originally Posted by FailSafe
    The father returned to the house, caught the man in the act, and stopped him by striking him in the head several times, Harmon said.
    That is self defense, its a fathers duty to protect his 4 year old.

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    If his story holds up, he may well not face charges.

    But of course, as usual you are all being rather sheep-like and led by the nose by your media.

    If there is a dead body in your house, and you concede you are responsible, then if your justification is that the deceased was attacking a young member of your family, you'd better have something that corroborates it.

    Eg, if the kid is covered in the corpse's spunk.

    There could be a hundred different other motives (eg he caught the guy banging his wife).

    Cue a chorus of....'no no, he is guilty, he must be, it's in the newspapers'

    This is why we have law courts, and not just vox populi on the internet. The uninformed passing judgment on the unspeakable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie Tigger View Post
    If the information so far is true then the bastard got his just reward.
    I agree.

    And there may well be something that substantiates his story, but this is not an open and shut case, else everyone with a grudge against someone would bash their nemesis to death and use a similar justification.

    The child may be old enough to testify, I don't know.

    The onus is on the Defence here. The plea they enter may be justifiable homicide, but it can't be self defence. Insanity doesn't work either here.

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    ^^^

    We're not on a jury, and aren't required to offer a presumption of innocence.

    I mentioned in both my posts that it could be a set-up- in any case, the results of the test performed on the girl will be available in a few weeks, and will certainly have some bearing on whether the father will face any charges.

    That said, this is a situation that many posters who have children can relate to- if you have a problem with someone judging the suspected molester, perhaps other posters have a problem with your judgement of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FailSafe View Post

    That said, this is a situation that many posters who have children can relate to- if you have a problem with someone judging the suspected molester, perhaps other posters have a problem with your judgement of them.
    They may be judging the molester, but the person in the dock is the guy who killed him.

    So presumably one would want all the evidence to be explored thoroughly. Would that be a fair comment?

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    Of course, and it is being explored (according to the article)- people (myself included) tend to come to conclusions based on available information, though, and you can't really call them 'sheep' for having a visceral reaction toward mentally putting themselves in the same (supposed and apparent) position the father was in.

    Right now I'm on the side of the father- if something new is discovered, I reserve the right to change my opinion later- I don't think that's being 'led by the nose' but rather a call based on prima facie evidence- speculation is fair game at this preliminary stage.

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    you should be used to teak doors kangaroo court by now Moog, FFS most of the news we get is not followed up

    i am interested to see the outcome of this. In the UK i reckon the killer would do some jail time due to over sufficient force

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    Do keep an eye on it FS and let us know the outcome, as updates to the case should be interesting and potentially precedent-setting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kwang
    i am interested to see the outcome of this. In the UK i reckon the killer would do some jail time due to over sufficient force
    Pakis have the monopoly on kiddy fiddling here right now so our softie lawlords will probably try to level the field and give White paedos (and yes there are many) more serious time than these fucking organised Paki gangs.
    Every fucking day it hits the news, even the BBC left wing immigration lovers are starting to report these abuses.
    Good on this Texan feller, can anyone imagine their own kid getting what his son got ?

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    just read the news today and it states that in child sexual abuse cases there is an epidemic world wide.
    seems the internet is revealing all in tracking the culprits.

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    If true, the guy should go free. I just hope he had the sense to beat the guy out of view of his child. No need to traumatize the girl twice.

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    Even if he doesn't have to serve time the father has not only got to live with this horrible experience for the rest of his life but others less understanding people in the community will be suspicious of him.

    It's not a very nice world we live in.

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    If the molester was black and the father white, the Black horde would be calling for his arrest and conviction. (And we want jobs too!)

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    A grand jury failed to bing charges- it's done- no surprise there:

    Grand jury: No indictment against father who killed daughter's alleged abuser - CNN.com

    Grand jury: No indictment against father who killed daughter's alleged abuser

    (CNN) -- A Lavaca County, Texas, grand jury did not return an indictment against a father who killed a man he found allegedly sexually abusing his daughter, officials said Tuesday at a press conference in Hallettsville, Texas.
    "The substantial amount of evidence showed that the witness statements and the father's statement and what the father had observed was in fact what had happened that day," Lavaca County District Attorney Heather McMinn told reporters.
    The father, who will not be charged, is not being named by CNN to protect the identity of his daughter.
    The father called 911, and he and his family tried to "save the life" of alleged attacker Jesus Mora Flores "despite what they had just witnessed," McMinn added.
    McMinn told CNN that Flores, 47, was not an acquaintance of the family.
    According to the Lavaca County Sheriff's Office, the father and his family had gathered for a horse shoeing last Saturday at their ranch where they keep horses and chickens.
    There were seven people in attendance in total, including four members of the family, two acquaintances and a stranger to the family, who was the alleged molester. According to McMinn, the alleged abuser was a legal worker from Mexico.
    His 5-year-old daughter had gone off toward the barn, to feed the chickens, the child's grandfather told CNN affiliates KSAT and KPRC.
    Then her father heard screaming and ran. He found a man sexually abusing his daughter, according to Sheriff Micah Harmon.
    The father stopped the alleged abuser, and then pounded him repeatedly in the head, killing him, authorities said.
    On the recorded 911 call, the father can be heard crying, and telling the operator, "I need an ambulance. This guy was raping my daughter and I beat him up. And I don't know ... I don't know what to do."
    Later in the call, when the operator tells the caller, "I'm working on it if you can hold on," the emotional father says, "The guy's dying on me!"
    McMinn also told CNN the child's grandfather and aunt both administered cardiopulmonary resuscitation.
    Neither officials nor the family's attorney, V'Anne Huser, took questions from reporters Tuesday but Huser said in light of the grand jury's decision, "in our opinion, today, the story is over."
    McMinn told CNN she had "never seen a case this clear" in her career.
    The incident occurred outside the town of Shiner, a community between Houston and San Antonio that has about 2,000 people within its city limits and another 1,500 or so on its outskirts, according to the U.S. Census Bureau.

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    there is Jusice afterall

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    Hopefully this will be a lesson to all pediophiles.

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