View Poll Results: Was 9/11 an inside job - 2016 TD poll

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    And this crap
    You can pretty well just use this after any skidmark post.

    No need to elaborate.

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    9/11: Not to mix with another 9/11 in 1973 in Chile. Also so many casualties, also controlled from abroad...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    Controlled Impact Demonstration - Wikipedia




    Your sources are full of half truths set out in a way to make a conspiracy plausible, which is the usual technique of selling crap to nutters.
    The official story is full of half truths too. If pilots could jump on the simulator and pull these off, I wouldn't be saying this.

    This is cruise missile precision. The idea that the US would do this is insane. So is the idea that they would commit acts of terrorism to get a war going with Cuba.

    Last edited by Backspin; 13-09-2021 at 12:56 AM.

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    So, real pilots couldn't pull it off in a simulator? But were somehow able to do it by the even more difficult method of remote control?

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    Autopilot, Pickel

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    Of course pilots could do it with ease. The towers were almost the same width as an international airport runway. The hard bit was punching in the waypoint to get to NY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    Of course pilots could do it with ease.
    Hmm
    Low altitude- high speed

    Not normal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    Of course pilots could do it with ease.
    That is a ludicrous statement. It has NOT been done with ease on a simulator.

    The twin towers didn't have an instrument lading glide path system FFS

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    Autopilot, Pickel

    GPS coordinates, auto pilot. Its all there.

    Hand flying flunky pilot at 500 Knots ? Not a chance.

    How did the terrorists so efficiently kill and dispose of the real pilots so that they weren't a nuisance to the flight too ??? I could post 3 other highjackings and they all resulted in a huge fight in the cockpit which effected the flight. In 911 ? The planes all flew perfectly straight.


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    Does this look like the path of 3 hijacked cockpits ? 3 double murders happened in these planes ? Smooth operators these terrorists.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    I could post 3 other highjackings and they all resulted in a huge fight in the cockpit which effected the flight. In 911 ? The planes all flew perfectly straight.
    I think the one that crashed in Pennsylvania had its flight path a little altered from a fight in the cockpit, don't you?

    As for the others, it wouldn't be hard to come from behind and slash the throats of pilots who are strapped in and not expecting it.

    You really are grasping at straws dumb dumb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post

    I have never seen a notice who are the authors of the many videos, wondering that they were aiming incidentally on the skyscrapers...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    I have never seen a notice who are the authors of the many videos, wondering that they were aiming incidentally on the skyscrapers...
    The only one of the first plane was a documentary being filmed of firefighters. When the plane flew low overhead they put the camera on it. Why does it surprise you that others would have cameras pointed at the buildings after that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    The only one of the first plane was a documentary being filmed of firefighters. When the plane flew low overhead they put the camera on it. Why does it surprise you that others would have cameras pointed at the buildings after that?
    Holy shit!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    That is a ludicrous statement. It has NOT been done with ease on a simulator.

    The twin towers didn't have an instrument lading glide path system FFS
    Well actually it has. It is much easier than you think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    I think the one that crashed in Pennsylvania had its flight path a little altered from a fight in the cockpit, don't you?

    As for the others, it wouldn't be hard to come from behind and slash the throats of pilots who are strapped in and not expecting it.

    You really are grasping at straws dumb dumb.
    No I dont think I'm grasping at all. We have precedents of cock pits being taken over with crude weapons , and it did NOT turn out this way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    Well actually it has. It is much easier than you think.
    Post it.

    Did they reenact 3 double murders in the cockpit ? And nobodies leg touched the control stick? Ah it was all on auto eh. Terrarists killed and disposed of the bodies and took control , without the flight being disturbed for one second.

    I guess it's possible. Just very unlikely. Which is why I support a new criminal investigation into 9/11.
    Last edited by Backspin; 13-09-2021 at 09:09 PM.

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    skiddy and google.

    It's just not a good combination is it?

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    It was an interesting debate to join more than a decade ago.

    Now?

    PNAC and the Clean Break papers wanted a different middle east and PNAC even hoped for a "pearl harbor" event to make it happen — invasion of Iraq: Most of them later joined the Dubya Admin.

    For those who believe the conspiracy theory that some arab boys hung around titty bars in florida while attending flight training classes for small planes — and then pulled off 911.

    up.to.you


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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    Post it.

    Did they reenact 3 double murders in the cockpit ? And nobodies leg touched the control stick? Ah it was all on auto eh. Terrarists killed and disposed of the bodies and took control , without the flight being disturbed for one second.

    I guess it's possible. Just very unlikely. Which is why I support a new criminal investigation into 9/11.


    Clearly you have never been in the cockpit of a commercial aircraft and never been in a sim. It is also clear you also have no idea of the basic mechanics of flight. If you had then you would know that it is relatively easy to point a cleanly configured aircraft at a distant object and hit it at high speed. If the object is for you to survive as well then I'm afraid the odds are against you.

    It is far simpler than landing stable, configured, and at the correct speed on a runway, especially if your intention is to walk away afterwards.

    I no longer have access to a civil sim or I'd video the simplicity of hitting much smaller targets than the WTC.

    How the hijackers gained access to a locked cockpit remains a mystery. The theory is that they obtained the key from the purser after killing him. If you have ever been in a 767 cockpit (or many others) then you'd know how awkward it would be to defend yourself from a knife attack whilst strapped to your seat. You need to drive the seat backwards to get yourself out and that isn't going to happen in time.

    The Fedex incident you mentioned (Flight 705) was in a DC-10, which has a third crew member and even then they were lucky not to be overpowered by a single person. I imagine once the hijackers gained access to the cockpit the demise of both pilots was rather swift.



    You're either very naïve or just a nutter...

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    Just as a matter of interest Troy, can a plane be remotely controlled with no souls on board?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    Just as a matter of interest Troy, can a plane be remotely controlled with no souls on board?
    Yes, in theory, they can, as illustrated by the multitude of UAVs available.

    However, there are no commercial aircraft with remote control capabilities currently flying in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    However, there are no commercial aircraft with remote control capabilities currently flying in the world.
    Are you sure ?

    With these particular incidents in mind maybe they oughta be equipped with some remote capabilities, which would overrule "hazardous" flying

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    Boeing applied for a patent on uninterruptible auto pilot in 2004. Yes 2004. But it obviously just shows that the technology or the idea to employ it is not crazy talk. its the exact same wording that whistleblower Dan Hanley uses.


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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    With these particular incidents in mind maybe they oughta be equipped with some remote capabilities, which would overrule "hazardous" flying
    Edit :

    They have it :

    The Boeing Uninterruptible Autopilot is a system designed to take control of a commercial aircraft away from the pilot or flight crew in the event of a hijacking. If implemented, the system would allow the craft to automatically guide itself to a landing at a designated airstrip.

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