Thread: 9/11 was an inside job

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Fuck's sake taking off and landing is the hard part, steering a fucking plane is a piece of piss, even you can learn that on Flight Simulator you dick.

At alleged impossible speeds of around 590mph at 1000 ft > 1 ft ASL?


"Flight 175 crashed nose-first into the southern facade of South Tower of the World Trade Center, at a speed of approximately 590 mph (950 km/h, 264 m/s, or 513 knots).

Where did you learn to fly harry?



PS.

The South Tower collapsed at 9:59 a.m., after burning for 56 minutes.

Those four planes full of passengers didn't fly on 9/11 harry.

Tell that to the families you retarded chimp.

^ Harry cannot answer as usual.

Originally Posted by Cold Pizza

^ Harry cannot answer as usual.

Oh, sorry.

"As usual, tell that to the families you retarded chimp".

You dim c u n t.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Fuck's sake taking off and landing is the hard part, steering a fucking plane is a piece of piss, even you can learn that on Flight Simulator you dick.

At alleged impossible speeds of around 590mph at 1000 ft > 1 ft ASL?


"Flight 175 crashed nose-first into the southern facade of South Tower of the World Trade Center, at a speed of approximately 590 mph (950 km/h, 264 m/s, or 513 knots).

Where did you learn to fly harry?



PS.

The South Tower collapsed at 9:59 a.m., after burning for 56 minutes.

Those four planes full of passengers didn't fly on 9/11 harry.

Tell that to the families you retarded chimp.

What families,.....got some lists, names,...harry?.

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Fuck's sake taking off and landing is the hard part, steering a fucking plane is a piece of piss, even you can learn that on Flight Simulator you dick.

At alleged impossible speeds of around 590mph at 1000 ft > 1 ft ASL?


"Flight 175 crashed nose-first into the southern facade of South Tower of the World Trade Center, at a speed of approximately 590 mph (950 km/h, 264 m/s, or 513 knots).

Where did you learn to fly harry?



PS.

The South Tower collapsed at 9:59 a.m., after burning for 56 minutes.

Those four planes full of passengers didn't fly on 9/11 harry.

Tell that to the families you retarded chimp.

What families,.....got some lists, names,...harry?.

Of course. It's public record, dickhead.

American Airlines Flight 11: A Boeing 767 en route from Boston to Los Angeles. The plane, carrying 81 passengers, nine flight attendants and two pilots, crashed into a tower of New York's World Trade Center about 8:45 a.m. ET.

Crew:

Barbara Arestegui, 38, Marstons Mills, Mass., flight attendant
Jeffrey Collman, 41, Novato, Calif., flight attendant
Sara Low, 28, Batesville, Ark., flight attendant
Karen Martin, 40, Danvers, Mass., flight attendant
Thomas McGuinness, 42, Portsmouth, N.H., first officer
Kathleen Nicosia, flight attendant
John Ogonowski, 52, Dracut, Mass., captain
Betty Ong, 45, Andover, Mass., flight attendant
Jean Roger, 24, Longmeadow, Mass., flight attendant
Dianne Snyder, 42, Westport, Mass., flight attendant
Madeline Sweeney, 35, Acton, Mass., flight attendant

Passengers:

Anna Williams Allison, 48, Stoneham, Mass., founder, A2 Software Solutions
David Angell, 54, Pasadena, Calif., executive producer, NBC's ''Frasier''
Lynn Angell, Pasadena, Calif.
Seima Aoyama
Myra Aronson, 52, Charlestown, Mass., press and analyst relations manager
Christine Barbuto, 32, Brookline, Mass., TJX Co.
Carolyn Beug, 48, Los Angeles, Calif.
Kelly Booms, 24, Boston, Mass., PricewaterhouseCoopers
Carol Bouchard, 43, Warwick, R.I., emergency room secretary, Kent County Hospital
Neilie Casey, 32, Wellesley, Mass., TJX Co.
Jeffrey Coombs, 42, Abington, Mass., security analyst, Compaq
Tara Creamer, 30, Worcester, Mass.
Thelma Cuccinello, 71, Wilmot, N.H.
Patrick Currivan
Brian Dale, 43, Warren, N.J.
David DiMeglio, Wakefield, Mass.
Donald Ditullio, 49, Peabody, Mass., Smith and Nephew
Albert Dominguez, 65, Sydney, Australia
Alex Filipov, 70, Concord, Mass., electrical engineer
Carol Flyzik, 40, Plaistow, N.H.
Paul Friedman
Karleton D.B. Fyfe, 31, Brookline, Mass., John Hancock
Peter Gay, 54, Tewksbury, Mass., plant manager, Raytheon Co.
Linda George, 27, Westboro, Mass., TJX Co.
Edmund Glazer, 41, Los Angeles, Calif., chief financial officer, MRV Communications
Lisa Fenn Gordenstein, 41, Needham, Mass., TJX Co.
Andrew Curry Green, 34, Los Angeles, Calif., director of business development, eLogic
Paige Farley Hackel, 46, Newton, Mass., spiritual counselor
Peter Hashem, 40, Tewksbury, Mass., salesman
Robert Hayes, 37, Amesbury, Mass., sales engineer, Netstal
Ted Hennessey, 35, Belmont, Mass., consultant
John Hofer
Cora Holland, 52, Sudbury, Mass., Sudbury Food Pantry at Our Lady of Fatima Church
Nicholas Humber, 60, Newton, Mass., owner, Brae Burn Management
John Jenkins, 45, Cambridge, Mass., corporate office services manager, Charles River Associates
Charles Jones, 48, Bedford, Mass., computer programmer
Robin Kaplan, 33, Westboro, Mass., TJX Co.
Barbara Keating, 72, Palm Springs, Calif.
David Kovalcin, 42, Hudson, N.H.
Judy Larocque, 50, Framingham, Mass., founder and CEO, Market Perspectives
N. Janis Lasden, 46, Peabody, Mass., General Electric
Daniel John Lee, 34, Los Angeles, Calif.
Daniel C. Lewin, 31, co-founder, Akamai Technologies
Susan MacKay, 44, Westford, Mass., TJX Co.
Chris Mello, 25, Boston, Mass., analyst
Jeff Mladenik, 43, Hinsdale, Ill., interim president, E-Logic
Antonio Montoya, 46, East Boston, Mass., housekeeping worker, Boston Harbor Hotel
Carlos Montoya
Laura Lee Morabito, 34, Framingham, Mass., national sales manager, Qantas Airways
Mildred Naiman, Andover, Mass.
Laurie Neira
Renee Newell, 37, Cranston, R.I., customer service agent, American Airlines
Jacqueline Norton, 60, Lubec, Maine, retiree
Robert Norton, 82, Lubec, Maine, retiree
Jane Orth, 49, Haverhill, Mass., retiree, Lucent Technologies
Thomas Pecorelli, 31, Los Angeles, Calif., cameraman, Fox Sports and E! Entertainment Television
Berry Berenson Perkins, 53, Wellfleet, Mass., actress and photographer
Sonia Morales Puopolo, 58, Dover, Mass., former ballet dancer
David Retik, Needham, Mass.
Philip Rosenzweig, Acton, Mass., executive, Sun Microsystems
Richard Ross, 58, Newton, Mass., Ross Group
Jessica Sachs, 22, Billerica, Mass., accountant, PricewaterhouseCoopers
Rahma Salie, 28, Boston, Mass.
Heather Smith, 30, Boston, Mass., Beacon Capital Partners
Douglas Stone, 54, Dover, N.H.
Xavier Suarez
Michael Theodoridis, 32, Boston, Mass., consultant
James Trentini, 65, Everett, Mass., retired teacher and assistant principal
Mary Trentini, 67, Everett, Mass., retired secretary
Pendyala Vamsikrishna, 30, Los Angeles, Calif., project manager for consulting firm, DTI
Mary Wahlstrom, 75, Kaysville, Utah
Kenneth Waldie, 46, Methuen, Mass., Raytheon Co.
John Wenckus, 46, Torrance, Calif., tax consultant
Candace Lee Williams, 20, Danbury, Conn., student
Christopher Zarba, 47, Hopkinton, Mass., software engineer, Concord Communications

United Airlines Flight 175: A Boeing 767 bound from Boston to Los Angeles. The plane was carrying 56 passengers, two pilots and seven flight attendants. It crashed into the other tower of the World Trade Center shortly after 9 a.m.

Crew:

Robert Fangman, 33, Claymont, Del., flight attendant
Michael Horrocks, 38, Glen Mills, Pa., first officer
Amy Jarret, 28, North Smithfield, R.I., flight attendant
Amy King, 29, Stafford Springs, Conn.,flight attendant
Kathryn LaBorie, flight attendant
Alfred Marchand, 44, Alamogordo, N.M., flight attendant
Victor J. Saracini, 51, Lower Makefield Township, Pa., captain
Michael Tarrou, 38, Stafford Springs, Conn., flight attendant
Alicia N. Titus, 28, San Francisco, flight attendant

Passengers:

Alona Avraham, 30, Ashdod, Israel
Garnet ''Ace'' Bailey, 53, Lynnfield, Mass., pro hockey scouting director, Los Angeles Kings
Mark Bavis, 31, West Newton, Mass., pro hockey scout, Los Angeles Kings
Graham Berkeley, 37, Wellesley, Mass.
Touri Bolourchi, 69, Beverly Hills, Calif.
Klaus Bothe, 31, chief of development, BCT Technology AG (Germany)
Daniel Brandhorst, 42, Los Angeles, Calif., lawyer, PricewaterhouseCoopers
David Brandhorst, 3, Los Angeles, Calif.
John Cahill, 56, Wellesley, Mass., senior executive, Xerox
Christoffer Carstanjen, 33, Turner Falls, Mass., computer research specialist, University of Massachusetts
John ''Jay'' Corcoran, 44, Norwell, Mass., merchant marine
Gloria de Barrera, 49, El Salvador, exporter
Dorothy Dearaujo, 82, Long Beach, Calif.
Lisa Frost, 22, Rancho Santa Margarita, Calif., sales and marketing associate
Ronald Gamboa, 33, Los Angeles, Calif., store manager, The Gap
Lynn Goodchild, 25, Attleboro, Mass., Putnam Investments
Francis Grogan, 76, Easton, Mass., priest, Holy Cross Church
Carl Hammond, 37, Boston, Mass.
Christine Hanson, 3, Groton, Mass.
Peter Hanson, 32, Groton, Mass., software salesman
Susan Hanson, 35, Groton, Mass., student
Gerald F. Hardacre, 62, Carlsbad, Calif.
Eric Hartono, 20, Boston, Mass.
James E. Hayden, 47, Westford, Mass., chief financial officer, Netegrity Inc.
Herbert Homer, 48, Milford, Mass., corporate executive, Raytheon Co.
Robert Jalbert, 61, Swampscott, Mass., salesman
Ralph Kershaw, 52, Manchester-by-the-Sea, Mass., marine surveyor
Heinrich Kimmig, 43, chairman, BCT Technology AG (Germany)
Brian Kinney, 29, Lowell, Mass., auditor, PricewaterhouseCoopers
Robert LeBlanc, 70, Lee, N.H., professor emeritus of geography, University of New Hampshire
Maclovio ''Joe'' Lopez Jr., 41, Norwalk, Calif.
Marianne MacFarlane, 34, Revere, Mass., customer service representative,
Louis Neil Mariani, 59, Derry, N.H.
Juliana Valentine McCourt, 4, New London, Conn.
Ruth McCourt, 45, New London, Conn., founder, Clifford Classique
Wolfgang Menzel, 60, personnel manager, BCT Technology AG (Germany)
Shawn Nassaney, 25, Pawtucket, R.I., American Power Conversion
Marie Pappalardo
Patrick Quigley, 40, Wellesley, Mass., partner, PricewaterhouseCoopers
Frederick Rimmele, Marblehead, Mass., physician
James M. Roux, 43, Portland, Maine, lawyer
Jesus Sanchez, 45, Hudson, Mass., off-duty flight attendant
Kathleen Shearer, Dover, N.H.
Robert Shearer, Dover, N.H.
Jane Simpkin, 35, Wayland, Mass.
Brian D. Sweeney, 38, Barnstable, Mass., business consultant
Timothy Ward, 38, San Diego, Calif., information technology project manager, Rubio's Restaurants
William Weems, 46, Marblehead, Mass., commercial producer

American Airlines Flight 77: A Boeing 757 en route from Dulles Airport near Washington to Los Angeles. The plane was carrying 58 passengers, four flight attendants and two pilots. It crashed into the Pentagon about 9:40 a.m.

Crew:

Charles Burlingame, 51, Va., captain
David Charlebois, Washington, D.C., first officer
Michele Heidenberger, 57, Chevy Chase, Md., flight attendant
Jennifer Lewis, 38, Culpeper, Va., flight attendant
Kenneth Lewis, 49, Culpeper, Va., flight attendant
Renee May, 39, Baltimore, flight attendant

Passengers:

Paul Ambrose, 32, physician
Yeneneh Betru, 35, Burbank, Calif., director of medical affairs, IPC
MJ Booth
Bernard Brown, 11, student, Leckie Elementary School (Washington)
Suzanne Calley, 42, San Martin, Calif., Cisco Systems Inc.
William E. Caswell, 54, Silver Spring, Md., physicist, U.S. Navy
Sarah Clark, 65, Columbia, Md., sixth-grade teacher, Backus Middle School (Washington)
Zandra Cooper, Annandale, Va.
Asia Cottom, 11, student, Backus Middle School (Washington)
James Debeuneure, 58, Upper Marlboro, Md., fifth-grade teacher, Ketcham Elementary School (Washington)
Rodney Dickens, 11, student, Ketcham Elementary School (Washington)
Eddie Dillard
Charles Droz, 52, Springfield, Va., vice president for software development, EM Solutions Inc.
Barbara G. Edwards, 58, Las Vegas, Nev., teacher, Palo Verde High School in Las Vegas
Charles S. Falkenberg, 45, University Park, Md., research director, ECOlogic Corp.
Dana Falkenberg, 3, University Park, Md.
Zoe Falkenberg, 8, University Park, Md.
James Joe Ferguson, 39, Washington, D.C., educational outreach director, National Geographic Society
Darlene ''Dee'' Flagg, 63, Millwood, Va.
Wilson ''Bud'' Flagg, 63, Millwood, Va., retired Navy Admiral and pilot, American Airlines
Richard P. Gabriel Sr., 54, Great Falls, Va., founder, Stratin Consulting
Ian Gray, 55, Washington, D.C., healthcare consulting firm president
Stanley Hall, 68, Rancho Palos Verdes, Calif.
Bryan Jack, 48, Alexandria, Va., senior executive, Defense Department
Steven D. ''Jake'' Jacoby, 43, Alexandria, Va., chief operating officer, Metrocall Inc.
Ann Judge, 49, Great Falls, Va., travel officer manager, National Geographic Society
Chandler Keller, 29, El Segundo, Calif., propulsion engineer, Boeing Co.
Yvonne Kennedy
Norma Khan, 45, Reston, Va., nonprofit organization manager,
Karen A. Kincaid, 40, lawyer, Wiley Rein & Fielding in Washington
Dong Lee, 48, Leesburg, Va., engineer, Boeing Co.
Dora Menchaca, 45, Santa Monica, Calif., associate director of clinical research for biotech firm
Christopher Newton, 38, Ashburn, Va., executive, WorkLife Benefits
Barbara Olson, 45, TV commentator and lawyer
Ruben Ornedo, 39, Los Angeles, Calif., propulsion engineer, Boeing Co.
Robert Penniger, 63, Poway, Calif., electrical engineer, BAE Systems
Robert R. Ploger III, 59, Annandale, Va., software architect, Lockheed Martin Corp.
Lisa J. Raines, 42, Great Falls, Va., senior vice president, Genzyme Corp.
Todd Reuben, 40, Potomac, Md., tax and business lawyer
John Sammartino, 37, Annandale, Va., technical manager, XonTech Inc.
Yang Shuyin, 61, Beijing, China
Diane Simmons
George Simmons
Mari-Rae Sopper, 35, Santa Barbara, Calif., women's gymnastics coach, UC Santa Barbara
Robert Speisman, 47, Irvington, N.Y., diamond industry salesman
Norma Lang Steuerle, 54, Alexandria, Va.
Hilda Taylor, sixth grade teacher at Leckie Elementary School in Washington
Leonard Taylor, 44, Reston, Va., technical group manager, XonTech Inc.
Sandra Teague, 31, physical therapist, Georgetown University Hospital
Leslie A. Whittington, 45, University Park, Md., professor, Georgetown University
John Yamnicky, 71, Waldorf, Md.
Vicki Yancey, 44, Springfield, Va., Vredenburg
Zheng Yuguang, 65, Beijing, China

United Airlines Flight 93: A Boeing 757 en route from Newark, N.J., to San Francisco. The plane was carrying 37 passengers, two pilots and five flight attendants. It crashed southeast of Pittsburgh around 10 a.m ET Tuesday.

Crew:

Lorraine Bay, Hightstown, N.J., flight attendant
Sandra Bradshaw, 38, Greensboro, N.C., flight attendant
Jason Dahl, 43, Denver, captain
Wanda Green, 49, Linden, N.J., flight attendant
LeRoy Homer, 36, Marlton, N.J., first officer
CeeCee Lyles, Fort Myers, Fla., flight attendant
Deborah Welsh, 49, New York, N.Y., flight attendant

Passengers:

Christian Adams, 37, Biebelsheim, Germany, foreign sales manager, German Wine Fund
Todd Beamer, 32, of Cranbury, N.J., account manager, Oracle Corp.
Alan Beaven, 48, Oakland, Calif., environmental lawyer
Mark Bingham, 31, San Francisco, public relations firm owner
Deora Bodley, 20, Santa Clara, Calif., university student
Marion Britton, 53, assistant regional director, U.S. Census Bureau
Thomas E. Burnett Jr., 38, San Ramon, Calif., senior executive of medical research company
William Cashman
Georgine Rose Corrigan, antiques and collectibles dealer
Joseph Deluca
Patrick Driscoll
Edward Felt, 41, Matawan, N.J.
Colleen Fraser, 51, Elizabeth, N.J., chairwoman, New Jersey Developmental Disabilities Council
Andrew Garcia, 62, Portola Valley, Calif.
Jeremy Glick, 31, West Milford, N.J.
Kristin Gould
Lauren Grandcolas, 38, San Rafael, Calif., sales worker, Good Housekeeping magazine
Donald F. Greene, 52, Greenwich, Conn.
Linda Gronlund, 46, Warwick, N. Y., environmental compliance, BMW
Richard Guadagno, 38, Eureka, Calif., Humboldt Bay National Wildlife Refuge manager, U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service
Toshiya Kuge, 20, Tokyo, Japan, student
Hilda Marcin, 79, Budd Lake, N.J., retired teacher's aide
Waleska Martinez, 37, automation specialist, U.S. Census Bureau
Nicole Miller, 21, San Jose, student, West Valley College
Louis J. Nacke, 42, New Hope, Pa., distribution center director, Key-Bee Toys
Donald A. Peterson, 66, Spring Lake, N.J., retired president, Continental Electric Co.
Jean Hoadley Peterson, 55, Spring Lake, N.J.
Mark Rothenberg, Scotch Plains, N.J., owner, MDR Global Resources
Christine Snyder, 32, Kailua, Hawaii, arborist, Outdoor Circle
John Talignani, 72, Staten Island, N.Y., retired restaurant worker
Honor Elizabeth Wainio, 27, Watchung, N.J., district manager, Discovery Channel stores

That's the thing with these whackjobs and their whackjob theories about this kind of thing, ultimately their dribble is highly disrespectful to the families of the victims.

How would you react - for e.g. - at some loon telling you that your loved one wasn't actually on a flight that day.

Or, even worse if that's actually possible, the same ilk of whackjob fucksticks telling you that your child's murder at Sandy Hook was a 'false flag' and your grieving is part of your role as a 'trauma actor'.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

That's the thing with these whackjobs and their whackjob theories about this kind of thing, ultimately their dribble is highly disrespectful to the families of the victims.

How would you react - for e.g. - at some loon telling you that your loved one wasn't actually on a flight that day.

Or, even worse if that's actually possible, the same ilk of whackjob fucksticks telling you that your child's murder at Sandy Hook was a 'false flag' and your grieving is part of your role as a 'trauma actor'.

I'd think they need to be sectioned is what.

I think if it were my loved one / child I'd be the one doing the sectioning.

Must be true then because you found it on one of your whackjob websites.

So a massive government-backed conspiracy involving thousands of people and faking planes being flown into buildings has been exposed because Bob in IT forgot to change a government run database.

Makes sense.

you still believe in the BS from CNN and BBCWorld, Harry ?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Must be true then because you found it on one of your whackjob websites.

Like this one, harry.

US Social Security Death Index for 9/11/2001;

https://go.fold3.com/ssdi/

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Must be true then because you found it on one of your whackjob websites.

Like this one, harry.

US Social Security Death Index for 9/11/2001;

https://go.fold3.com/ssdi/

WTF does that have to do with it?

Fucking hell, you really are desperate, aren't you?

Phone call from passengers on hijacked planes, to family members, never happened.

ABC News, 2010-10-05: Airline to Make Cell Phone Calls Possible on Flights
Singapore Airlines announced today [October 5, 2010] that it will soon allow wireless connections -- for text messages, Blackberrys and perhaps cell phone calls -- on its medium- and long-haul flights. ...
Details are still being worked out, but when the airline implements the system early next year, it could be the first carrier to allow passengers to make and receive voice calls on their personal cell phones.

"The first?" Er ... what about Flight 93? Didn't those "plucky passengers" call their relatives on their cell phones? But how could they, if such calls are just starting to become possible in 2010?

What Actually Happened on 9/11?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Must be true then because you found it on one of your whackjob websites.

Like this one, harry.

US Social Security Death Index for 9/11/2001;

https://go.fold3.com/ssdi/

WTF does that have to do with it?

The information held by USSSDI refutes your list of allegedly dead airline passengers and crew as a total fabrication and exposes you as a lying stooge, harry.

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

Details are still being worked out, but when the airline implements the system early next year, it could be the first carrier to allow passengers to make and receive voice calls on their personal cell phones.

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

"The first?" Er ... what about Flight 93? Didn't those "plucky passengers" call their relatives on their cell phones? But how could they, if such calls are just starting to become possible in 2010?

LMAO, if you can't figure out what the word "allow" is even referring to please just don't even bother commenting because no one can help you.

This truther stuff is just so consistently mindless and uncritical of itself. It just feeds on its own stupidity in a never ending, self-reinforcing loop of crap

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

Phone call from passengers on hijacked planes, to family members, never happened.

ABC News, 2010-10-05: Airline to Make Cell Phone Calls Possible on Flights
Singapore Airlines announced today [October 5, 2010] that it will soon allow wireless connections -- for text messages, Blackberrys and perhaps cell phone calls -- on its medium- and long-haul flights. ...
Details are still being worked out, but when the airline implements the system early next year, it could be the first carrier to allow passengers to make and receive voice calls on their personal cell phones.

"The first?" Er ... what about Flight 93? Didn't those "plucky passengers" call their relatives on their cell phones? But how could they, if such calls are just starting to become possible in 2010?

What Actually Happened on 9/11?

You do realize there's a difference between 'allow' and 'possible', right??

Singapore Air might announce in 2018 that it will soon allow passengers to fly whilst completely nude. That doesn't mean it's not possible to now. Have you never heard the announcement they make about switching off electronics during take off and landing and why??


*Edit* my post crossed with Red's, I'll go with his, he's right about the self-reinforcing loop.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

You do realize there's a difference between 'allow' and 'possible', right??

He does not

Occam's razor... something made by Gillette according to the ironically named 'Truthers'.

Hope the air masks drop down soon...the stupidity there was breathtaking.

A classic double face palm moment right there

Without even checking I bet there's someone out there who has come up with a reason why / how phone calls made from the / a flight actually proves the conspiracy also.

That's another thing with 'Truthers', they'll promote competing and contradictory theories, sometimes even as part of the same argument, without batting an eyelid over the inconsistency of it all.

Hence the phrase "fucking whackjobs".

They should be in an institution, the dribbling spastics.

Yeah, but some otherwise seemingly normal and logical people propagate this shit as well. They can be perfectly rational and reasonable on other topics but something about conspiracy theories makes all that fly out the window.

I mean someone like bENT who lived in a compound, tracked calls, and believes that he will live to 150+ years old is very, very clearly fucked in the head and going to believe this shit come hell or high-water.

It's the former group that I find most bemusing.