Thread: 9/11 was an inside job

sorry

Very good documentary this

Here's some intereting footage I've never seen before.
You can see about 21.05 someone using thermawhatever to cut the steel just before the collapse.

Originally Posted by Dapper

Very good documentary this

Of course it is for you, you believe every piece of mumbo jumbo that backs up the ridiculous conspiracy theories.

It's called Confirmation Bias

Psychiatrists have known about it for a long time. Perhaps you should go and see one.

Shut up you old tart, 9/11 was an inside job.

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by ENT

All the camera videos of the twin towers strike and collapse demolition were co-ordinated and photoshopped material.


Aeronautical craft,.....yes.


'Planes,....no.

Ah yes, carefully co-ordinated, altered-in-real-time video feeds of a plane flying into a building.

Do you actually realise how stupid a c u n t you sound?

Here are 30 different camera angles.

You idiot.

And not one airplane filmed strikes and enters the building in any credible way, if at all!!!

Go to 10.35

Originally Posted by Cujo

Go to 10.35

What for?

So you can see it again?

Originally Posted by Cujo

Here's some intereting footage I've never seen before.
You can see about 21.05 someone using thermawhatever to cut the steel just before the collapse.

No you can't.

What, you think they sent in suicidal welders?

It's molten aluminium seeping out you moron.

^^
Welders , Cuju you senile old git ,

Originally Posted by Cujo

Originally Posted by ENT

And not one airplane filmed strikes and enters the building in any credible way, if at all!!!

Go to 10.35

It's the same photoshopped "plane" as in other videos from that angle.

Amazing that there are three or four videos around showing that angle on the South Tower, cameras all on it at the right time, eh?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by Cujo

Here's some intereting footage I've never seen before.
You can see about 21.05 someone using thermawhatever to cut the steel just before the collapse.

It's molten aluminium seeping out you moron.

Wrong colour for molten aluminium, steel glows red when molten, aluminium stays silver


Also the fire never got near hot enough and didn't burn long enough to cause aluminium let alone steel to melt and stay molten.

Estimated temperatures were around 600 C

NIST refused to investigate the metal flow, dismissing it as aluminium from the alleged aircraft, a total impossibility.

The red sparking and white smoke as the metal flows is characteristic of a thermite reaction, though.

Originally Posted by ENT

Also the fire never got near hot enough and didn't burn long enough to cause aluminium let alone steel to melt and stay molten.

As has been shown in previous posts. the steel wasn't molten, just weakend enough to collapse, as you already know you blithering troll.

How many billions of years of evolution did it take to develop the human brain, all to be wasted on stupidity of the TD-CSI.

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by Cujo

Here's some intereting footage I've never seen before.
You can see about 21.05 someone using thermawhatever to cut the steel just before the collapse.

It's molten aluminium seeping out you moron.

Wrong colour for molten aluminium, steel glows red when molten, aluminium stays silver


Also the fire never got near hot enough and didn't burn long enough to cause aluminium let alone steel to melt and stay molten.

Estimated temperatures were around 600 C

NIST refused to investigate the metal flow, dismissing it as aluminium from the alleged aircraft, a total impossibility.

The red sparking and white smoke as the metal flows is characteristic of a thermite reaction, though.

Oh look, now he's an expert metallurgist.

You seem to forget everything else that was in there, carpets, furniture, computers, all manner of alloys.

You're such a witless fuck, honestly.

Originally Posted by MrG

As has been shown in previous posts. the steel wasn't molten, just weakend enough to collapse,

So you think anyone believes one of the 80% of scientifically illiterate Americans such as yourself, rather than the firefighters who were there at the time?

Yeah OK MuG...

Originally Posted by MrG

Originally Posted by ENT

Also the fire never got near hot enough and didn't burn long enough to cause aluminium let alone steel to melt and stay molten.

As has been shown in previous posts. the steel wasn't molten, just weakend enough to collapse,.

There was molten steel found in the basement of both towers after collapse, and the amount of heat necessary to melt either aluminium (c.650 C ) or steel (c.1200 C) was not achieved by what firefighters termed oxygen-starved office fires that were put out within less than half an hour of starting.

As stated, the liquid metal seen pouring down the side of the tower just prior to collapse resembled molten steel, not aluminium, which could not have come from a kerosene fire at 600C.

Neither was the temperature high enough to cause the steel structure to collapse, as it would have slumped, and the towers would have fallen, not explode as they did,

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by Cujo

Originally Posted by ENT

And not one airplane filmed strikes and enters the building in any credible way, if at all!!!

Go to 10.35

It's the same photoshopped "plane" as in other videos from that angle.

Amazing that there are three or four videos around showing that angle on the South Tower, cameras all on it at the right time, eh?

You're kidding right?
Every camera in the city was pointed up there at that time.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by ENT

The red sparking and white smoke as the metal flows is characteristic of a thermite reaction, though.

Oh look, now he's an expert metallurgist.

You seem to forget everything else that was in there, carpets, furniture, computers, all manner of alloys.

The towers were largely under-occupied, and much material had been stripped out long before 9/11.

The fires didn't last long enough nor were they hot enough to melt or slump the steel structure.

The concrete didn't burn, just exploded into dust, for the most part, and there was surprisingly little in the way of furnishings and equipment found in the rubble.

Even after two weeks of searching, very few bodies or body parts were recovered at ground zero, although some body parts were found years later on the roofs of nearby buildings.

The official story is that there were aprox 291 intact sets of individuals' remains identified, and officially, no jumpers' were identified,....other early explanations were that the jumpers' bodies "vaporized" or completely disintegrated on impact.

Not likely.

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by ENT

The red sparking and white smoke as the metal flows is characteristic of a thermite reaction, though.

Oh look, now he's an expert metallurgist.

You seem to forget everything else that was in there, carpets, furniture, computers, all manner of alloys.

The towers were largely under-occupied, and much material had been stripped out long before 9/11.

Nonsense.

Originally Posted by Cujo

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by Cujo

Originally Posted by ENT

And not one airplane filmed strikes and enters the building in any credible way, if at all!!!

Go to 10.35

It's the same photoshopped "plane" as in other videos from that angle.

Amazing that there are three or four videos around showing that angle on the South Tower, cameras all on it at the right time, eh?

You're kidding right?
Every camera in the city was pointed up there at that time.

At that angle and position at that exact moment that the second alleged airliner came in from behind them?

It's the same photoshopped aircraft morphing its way along, the same melting into the tower face as in the other dodgy videos.

Just take the video slowly through on full screen.

Originally Posted by ENT

resembled molten steel,

Oh. Resembled molten steel....

Has anybody tested it?
Anybody that wasn't in on the conspiracy, I mean.

Originally Posted by Cujo

The towers were largely under-occupied, and much material had been stripped out long before 9/11.

Nonsense.[/QUOTE]

Where have you been hiding?

Originally Posted by MrG

Originally Posted by ENT

resembled molten steel,

Oh. Resembled molten steel....

Has anybody tested it?
Anybody that wasn't in on the conspiracy, I mean.

NIST refused to test it.

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by MrG

Originally Posted by ENT

resembled molten steel,

Oh. Resembled molten steel....

Has anybody tested it?
Anybody that wasn't in on the conspiracy, I mean.

NIST refused to test it.

They didn't refuse to test it. They said it was pointless testing it because it wouldn't tell them what state it was in at the time of collapse.

You really should stop telling paranoid lies.

Originally Posted by ENT

As stated, (by ENT who is a gibbering fuckwith and makes shit up) the liquid metal seen pouring down the side of the tower just prior to collapse resembled molten steel, not aluminium, which could not have come from a kerosene fire at 600C.

As stated, with a little more scientific credibility, by NIST, in response to whackjobs like ENT:

21. Why does NIST state that a yellow stream of molten metal seen in some photographs pouring down the side of WTC2 was aluminum from the crashed plane, even though aluminum burns with a white glow?

NIST reported (NIST NCSTAR 1-5A) that just before 9:52 a.m., a bright spot appeared at the top of a window on the 80th floor of WTC 2, four windows removed from the east edge on the north face, followed by the flow of a glowing liquid. This flow lasted approximately four seconds before subsiding. Many such liquid flows were observed from near this location in the seven minutes leading up to the collapse of this tower. There is no evidence of similar molten liquid pouring out from another location in WTC 2 or from anywhere within WTC 1.

Photographs, as well as NIST simulations of the aircraft impact, show large piles of debris in the 80th and 81st floors of WTC 2 near the site where the glowing liquid eventually appeared. Much of this debris came from the aircraft itself and from the office furnishings that the aircraft pushed forward as it tunneled to this far end of the building. Large fires developed on these piles shortly after the aircraft impact and continued to burn in the area until the tower collapsed.

NIST concluded that the source of the molten material was aluminum alloys from the aircraft, since these are known to melt between 475 degrees Celsius (900 degrees Fahrenheit) and 640 degrees Celsius (1,200 degrees Fahrenheit)—depending on the particular alloy—well below the expected temperatures (about 1,000 degrees Celsius or 1,800 degrees Fahrenheit) in the vicinity of the fires. Aluminum is not expected to ignite at normal fire temperatures and there is no visual indication that the material flowing from the tower was burning.

Pure liquid aluminum would be expected to appear silvery. However, the molten metal was very likely mixed with large amounts of hot, partially burned, solid organic materials (e.g., furniture, carpets, partitions and computers) which can display an orange glow, much like logs burning in a fireplace. The apparent color also would have been affected by slag formation on the surface.

As I said, NIST refused to investigate the molten metal, only speculated on its cause and content.

Also, the molten metal was ranging between white hot through yellow and orange to bright red, not the colours of molten aluminium as it pours, which should be almost a pure silver colour when fluid, not red or orange as in the videos of the molten metal.

Slag and cinders, burning organic detritus from the impact, could not have created the bright orange glow in the falling metal, and temperatures were nowhere near hot enough in the affected floors to melt aluminium, let alone steel, ...so there's another cause for that ruddy glowing metal appearing, most likely an accelerant such as thermite or hotter burning thermate, used to cut the perimeter steel columns just before the top of the tower fell.