“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it."
It's not true, so you can stop doing it now.
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“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it."
It's not true, so you can stop doing it now.
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what was the name of the monkey who used paste massive 'the jews did it' 911 posts in the doghouse hansuman or something.
the dill chaps beginning to remind me of him.
TD CSI, the problem you have is that much this stuff that you accept without question defies physics. its been pointed out you loads of times in this thread and you simply use the denialist techniques of rinse and repeat and going all girly when faced with stuff you don't want to believe.
The reality is that these planes did exist and did crash into buildings and the ground; and whilst you chase these delusions you blind yourselves to the very real possibility of conspiracies that made use of these events.... whist looking like someone whose slightly more insain than your average moonie
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Science, as used by Palisades observatory, states that there's no seismic evidence to support the contention that an airliner crashed at the Pentagon on 9/11/2001.
Wake up Hazz.
Lack of evidence is not proof that anything else happened.
Bugger off, ENT. You don't even have any cabbages, whereas I have one, and Harry is a three-cabbage general.![]()
That's the Bush, Cheney Rumsfeld tactic.
The trouble is, you can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but not all the people all the time.
So the official 9/11 story slowly crumbles and more people are waking up to the horrible truth that the US government will happily bump off its own citizens for money.
^
Well, you've certainly got it all wrapped up for yourself in a nice tidy little bundle.
Complete with optical illusions Houdini would have admired (airplaine...? what airplanes).
The Bush/Cheney crowd were pretty obvious and ham fisted about what they did. They certainly proved that they couldn't pull off a blowing up a cherry bomb in the stairwell without getting caught, let alone bringing down two buildings.
The three great strategies for obscuring an issue are to introduce irrelevancies, to arouse prejudice, and to excite ridicule....---Bergen Evans, The Natural History of Nonsense.
Eh? Make sense!
Wanker.
Tell that to a court.
You've got to be a believer to have come out with that!
Seen any hungry ghosts lately? Or do you pray to sky fairies?
Lack of evidence means nothing there, chappy, no plane at the Pentagon, as a plane crash would generate a huge signal, as seen on the WTC and Shanksville seismograph readings.
There'd also be a lot more airliner debris around.
Funny how there wasn't much found at any of the so called airliner crash sites that day.
The Shanksville plane crashed after it disintegrated in smoke and bits while in the air, giving a wide scatter of debris before crashing and generating such a bang that the resonance was picked up by seismographs, as one would expect from a plane crash.
Same as at the WTC, both towers 1 and 2, when impacted, gave off massive resonances at the times of impact.
Bush lied when asked by reporters for definite evidence of the plane, declaring that there wasn't any as the airliner just vapourized.
Rumsfeld said that a missile hit the Pentagon and that UA93 was shot down over Pennsylvania.
Which story are you gonna believe, the Bush version or the Rumsfeld one?
Or scientific evidence from a national seismic observatory?
Or maybe cherry pick the bits you want, mix n' match to suite your belief in the goodness of powers that be?
Ya daft believer.
You really are quite dim.
If a plane disintegrates in the air, giving a wide scatter of debris, there is no mass left in a concentrated area to smash into the ground......at least not enough to give a seismographic reading consistent with a plane crash.
You can't have it both ways, ENT.
Optical illusions alright, any camera evidence of those planes hitting and the "trapped workers" waving out of the windows from the top of the first tower hit, are the dodgiest photoshopped vids ever!
The folk depicted waving in the burning tower could not have done so, as those windows are only 2 ft wide, can't open,though some of them are shown half open!
Tell us all about the airplanes, chappy, there's bugger all crash evidence of them after the event,supposedly indestructible black boxes disappeared, a complete engine disappeared at the Pentagon, and the one found on site was a tiny thing, not from a Boeing jet liner.
Same goes for the WTC, the only one found there out of four didn't even match the planes supposedly involved, neither did any parts found come from those planes.
And,....AA declared that AA11 and AA77 weren't scheduled to fly that day and didn't take off.
Isn't all that a little odd?
Last edited by ENT; 27-02-2016 at 11:15 AM.
Take it in slowly, dopey.
You're assuming that the alleged plane completely disintegrated in mid air, which it did not.
A wide scatter of debris means that the alleged plane disintegrated as it travelled over a distance, the remaining bulk allegedly crashing into an open cast mine area.
The big bang picked up by the seismographs was not necessarily from a plane crashing.
A ground based explosion there could give readings of the same amplitude.
The official story is that one of its engines was found buried deep at the crash site, that'd give a fairly large impact noise.
Not consistent with a whole plane crashing though.
Oh...sorry. I forgot you had no sense of proportion.
Disappearing plane,...
Just for Harry, Ld and Hazz et al,
Another, which plane?
Instead of showing stupid grainy video, why don't you go back at look at the ample multiple videos that showed the crashes and all of which are posted in this thread.
You're just repeating your stupid bollocks again.
FFS mods, this thread is just looping, just DH the fucker.
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Or at least creatively re-name it.
So "they" buried a whole lot of aircraft parts (including engines) and cadavers shallowly in a field at Shanksville one dark night, put some explosives on top, and detonated the fucker, driving those bits far into the ground, and giving a seismographic signature consistent with a plane crash.
Sorry sir, you can't come in here......you appear to be of unsound mind.![]()
C.mon Harry, post those videos you're on about, vids that actually show the aircraft hitting the towers.
Then explain them logically, if you can.
Same as the jumpers and trapped people waving for help at WTC, all bullshit, all the product of
Gelatin.
Thoughts on the WTC Artists
who occupied the floors 91 and 92 of the North tower for four years, where the supposed airliner crashed into , just below the floors above from which dummies were hurled and seemingly trapped people waved from windows.
Jumpers? Windows full of waving people? Impossible! Why?
Because, according to;
Multi-Storey Buildings in Steel, Godfrey, GB (Editor); Second Edition; Collins, London, England, 1985
WORLD TRADE CENTER, NEW YORK, USA; Pages 162-4.
Architectural design: M. Yamasaki and Associates, Troy, Michigan; E. Roth and Sons, New York.
Structural design: Skilling, Helle, Jackson, Seattle.
Built: 1966/1973.
"The window openings are 1.98 x 0.48 m, are infilled with bronze-tinted solar-heat rejecting glass fitted into aluminium frames and sealed with Neoprene gaskets."
Because the windows are only 2ft wide and only one adult to stand in front of and just over 6 ft high, sealed and bolted into place and can NOT be opened.
There were NO openable half windows there.
Look at the video below, and you'll see the impossible, people crowded up to two at a time leaning out of the wall length windows, some of which are shown half open.
Some of the limbs shown waving are gigantic compared to human body size.
The dummies used the same repetitive movements and rarely changed position or action, mechanical.
Note also that bodies of jumpers coming from towers don't even twitch, no flapping and flailing of arms and legs, all seemingly quite composed as they fell.
Some seem capable of making super jumps waay out into space, catapulted.
And that's it, the job was well composed.
The windows were oo narrow for two people to fit in the opening, and..
All the windows of this fully airconditioned tower were sealed shut.
Nobody could lean out and wave from them or jump from them without unfastening them and removing them in their entirety from the walls.
Not a quick job, and smashing them would create so much jagged glass stuck in the frames that easy egress would be impossible.
So no show, no jumpers, no people trapped and waving for help from the top of North tower WTC 9/11.
^^ Yes, how about the "TD tinfoil nutjobs repeatedly posting the same old bullshit conspiracy nonsense about 9/11 ad nauseam".
I think it has a ring to it.
I imagine many of the windows were blown out from the force of the crashes on the buildings and the building reacting to the crashes. I'm sure some were deliberately broken by desperate people too.
The windows in the World Trade Center were 22" wide. They were designed to be wide enough that the average person's shoulders would just touch the edges when he stood in the wondow. This gave the person a feeling that there was some support, something other than a pane of glass, between him and a 60 story fall if he pressed himself upon the glass. It was designed to accomadate people uncomfortable with heights.
The panes are held in place with mastic. This is a strip of glue. It flexes, but when it bonds to glass and aluminum, it is incredibly strong. You can body slam it at full force and it won't come off the glass or the metal. The glass is also tempered and laminated. You can smack it with furniture all you want. It won't break.
You have to cut the mastic in order to remove the glass, You force a glazer's knife in between the glass and the mastic in a space about 1/8" long. The knife is sharpened so you can cut the mastic from the glass as you push the knife. When you break a significant portion of the mastic, you can force the loose area and the rest of the mastic will peel away. But if you try to push the whole thing at once, you'll just hurt yourself.
The exterior walls of the World Trade Center were load bearing. They were not there for decoration, or just to hold the glass. When the planes struck, the loads on the exterior walls shifted and some of the glass separated. Some of it was loosened and could be pushed away. And some of it was attacked by people with metal objects, like fire extinguishers, that were able to eventually break the glass.
When you look at those pictures of the people in the windows, look also at how much of the glass is still there. Those buildings were remarkably strong.
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