Thread: 9/11 was an inside job

Originally Posted by beazalbob69

As was said before the American govt is a proven liar and I choose to question everything they say or do

And that is the root fallacy at the core of your insane theories - the American government has lied in the past therefore they have lied about 911 and manufactured a gigantic stunt to murder 3000 of their own citizens. Idiot.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/bsp...4911Report.pdf

Originally Posted by Humbert

And that is the root fallacy at the core of your insane theories - the American government has lied in the past therefore they have lied about 911 and manufactured a gigantic stunt to murder 3000 of their own citizens. Idiot.

again, Dumbert with his idiotic way of thinking.

^ Not "street smart" enough for ya nigga?

Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier

How could they possibly combine "million" of pieces of evidence, analyze them and have solid answers 3 days after what the world thought might be the start of WW3?

What kind of an idiotic statement is that? The only thing that was known at that time was that the WTC had been destroyed by having hijacked planes crashed into it. It required rather more than 3 days to figure out all the details...

Fuck me, is it possible for this thread to get any more ridiculous.......

^I guess you don't understand what fallacious reasoning is. Get an education. You are obviously some kind of unskilled laborer or at best riff raff from some trade school.

^^ Perhaps you don't realise but you're just confirming the fact of your shoddy reasoning there. Stamping your feet and screaming "I'm right! I'm right!" isn't going to make it so.

Originally Posted by koman

When it suits you, we get a fuzzy picture of a cut beam or some fucking thing offered as "proof" that the CIA or somebody demolished three buildings with thermite bombs or whatever the conspiracy flavour of the day happens to be, but the combined mountain of evidence supporting the so called "official story" is dismissed in the face of something as compelling as a beam cut by some fireman somewhere in the debris field.

It would not matter if there were all on CCTV with time and date on anything else. You just deny deny deny....and then change course when the latest piece of bullshit is shown for what it is.

Exactly. Well-described.

Originally Posted by beazalbob69

Thats the problem koman people believe what they want no matter evidence one way or the other. You believe you are correct in your reasoning, but the fact remains you are no expert and you werent there. Neither was albert, ent, ld, harry, myself, or any others here.

The fact is : Koman has demonstrated he is rational and has good reasoning abilities, whereas ENT and Albert have demonstrated the opposite....to the point where it seems they are trolling. And in fact Albert has virtually admitted that,

Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier

Originally Posted by beazalbob69

I have read most of this thread and some of the "theories" are laughable even to me and I am a self proclaimed conspiracy theorist.

Funnily enough, I've read most of this thread - and I agree with you.

saying that he wants to keep the subject alive:

Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier

So this thread in a minute way helps to keep the info available.

Originally Posted by Zooheekock

^^ Perhaps you don't realise but you're just confirming the fact of your shoddy reasoning there. Stamping your feet and screaming "I'm right! I'm right!" isn't going to make it so.

That is not an example of my shoddy reasoning. That was just me giving you patriotic heroes some obvious examples of why I distrust the American Govt and all Govt's in general. They lie, they kill, they steal, and most people don't care and that's sad.

And what exactly am I screaming "I'm right! I'm right!" about? I don't know what happened on 9/11 any more than you do. At least I am not some know it all, everything is black and white numbskull like so many here portend to be.

Originally Posted by Humbert

^I guess you don't understand what fallacious reasoning is. Get an education. You are obviously some kind of unskilled laborer or at best riff raff from some trade school.

Why bring education into this? Does having a degree make you a better judge of character? I never realized that I would be debating against some of the top minds on the internet while posting on TD on a thread about 9/11 conspiracy theories.

Give me a break you pompous windbag.

Please don't mistake me for being either American or patriotic. The fact that I think truthers are, without exception, complete fucking bellends tells you exactly nothing about my nationality or my views about my country.

Yes, you may distrust your government and you may be wise to do so but to say the government lied about 9/11 because they lied about some other things (oh, and here are a few things they lied about) is, as Humbert said, just fucking nonsense. And the extent to which it is nonsense is not reduced by adding two more things to the list of things which your government has lied about.

Originally Posted by Zooheekock

Please don't mistake me for being either American or patriotic. The fact that I think truthers are, without exception, complete fucking bellends tells you exactly nothing about my nationality or my views about my country.

Yes, you may distrust your government and you may be wise to do so but to say the government lied about 9/11 because they lied about some other things (oh, and here are a few things they lied about) is, as Humbert said, just fucking nonsense. And the extent to which it is nonsense is not reduced by adding two more things to the list of things which your government has lied about.

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Albert Einstein

Read more at Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. - Albert Einstein at BrainyQuote

So what you are saying even though the US govt has been proven to be liars we are supposed to believe what they tell us anyway? The past doesn't matter?

Why should I believe the official 9/11 story told by liars?

Originally Posted by Humbert

^ Not "street smart" enough for ya nigga?

Yo bitch, don't you be dissin' him on his turf or he go pop a cap in yo ass.

Originally Posted by koman

What kind of an idiotic statement is that?

It was your comment you goat.

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

You mean doing something like pointing out how truthers are guilty of fallacious reasoning?

Why should I believe the official 9/11 story told by liars?

And again. And again. And again. And...........

Originally Posted by Humbert

^I guess you don't understand what fallacious reasoning is. Get an education. You are obviously some kind of unskilled laborer or at best riff raff from some trade school.

Maybe your perception is coloured by your red-neck upbringing, and your gummint just can't do no wrong, eh.....

Originally Posted by Latindancer

Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier

So this thread in a minute way helps to keep the info available.

WHAT info ????
Don't you mean that it keeps the SUBJECT alive ? Because all the information points to the official story being correct....apart from foreknowledge and profiteering by a select few, of course. But you get that...

Are you referring to THIS engine ?

OR





The type of engine on the plane that vapourized at the Pentagon.

Originally Posted by Latindancer

On the contrary, Bob. We have examined the evidence most thoroughly in this and other threads. I myself kept an open mind about other possibilities as much as possible for a long time. There is in fact some evidence which seems ambiguous at first. We debated but ENT and Albert proved that they cannot debate in a reasonable fashion.

The fact is ENT and Albert continuously shot themselves in the foot. Sloppy thinking, even complete lack of reasoned analysis, ad hominem attacks, accusations of OTHER people making ad hominem attacks, ENT posting links to, and quoting, every looney theory under the sun. Etc. Morphing, indeed ! Micro-nuclear attack on the WTC, indeed !

So let's call a spade a spade, OK ? They had their chance and blew it.

Total waffle.

Neither you nor anybody on the forum "examined the evidence".. bloody dreamer!!

Posting articles or pics and videos doesn't constitute posting evidence,....but in your Walter Mitty world you imagine yourself as an examiner of evidence, even an erudite examiner thereof! But you're not, neither are your little clique of shills, harrybarry, humbert, floridaborn et al.

What drug are you on?

Originally Posted by Latindancer

Oh...you were expecting the engine to look NEW.

Read the links provided or piss off, ENT. Troll.

Ooooh, it's a lot bigger engine than your one, ain't it didums?

Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier

^^^You haven't answered one question you piece of shit, just continual deflections and smokescreens.

Cvnt.

Lots of questions answered by lots of normal people.....much good it does. On the other hand, you have answered nothing. Your idea of an answer is....

Originally Posted by koman

Originally Posted by ENT

You're getting senile koman.

It's possible that I will get there eventually, with age, but you have been there for a while already ENT......no offence like.....

Originally Posted by ENT

What's the value of academic seniority in a world of practical necessities?.... None.

You really don't know this do you? unbelievable.....

I only mentioned seniority as one item on a list. OK let's make it a bit easier for you.

In an operating room with some serious surgery in the works.....we have a team of OR nurses, an anaesthetist, surgical assistants, and a chief surgeon...who would normally be a highly qualified and experienced individual in the field of surgery....

Each person is trained, qualified and hopefully very competent in their respective roles, but one person has to lead and make the critical decisions.....would that be ?the junior nurse or the chief surgeon? Bonus points for the right answer ENT....

It's like explaining how television works to some primitive tribesman, who has never seen an electrical devise....

Your analogy misses by a mile dumb grunt.

An operating theatre is not a morgue nor a forensic lab nor a series of forensic testing facilities.

The trained and qualified staff you allude to are technicians, in the main, and a very competent lot they are too, ably assisted by some very keen forensic science students.

Senior heads of departments are indeed often Phd's and other highly qualified persons, but a forensic lab is not crowded with senior academics,...good lord, thgey'd be stabbing eachother in the back or getting in eachother's way!!


There are not a hoard of Phds hanging around there.

Originally Posted by ENT

Posting articles or pics and videos doesn't constitute posting evidence,....but in your Walter Mitty world you imagine yourself as an examiner of evidence, even an erudite examiner thereof! But you're not, neither are your little clique of shills, harrybarry, humbert, floridaborn et al.

The strongest type of evidence is that which provides direct proof of the truth of an assertion. At the other extreme is evidence that is merely consistent with an assertion but does not rule out other, contradictory assertions, as in circumstantial evidence.
The burden of proof does not lie with "us", it lies with "you"...and so far you have only presented us with circumstantial evidence.

And stop posting like a prissy little gay guy, would you ? I almost vomited, and it does not help your argument. If one could call it that.

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by Latindancer

Oh...you were expecting the engine to look NEW.

Read the links provided or piss off, ENT. Troll.

Ooooh, it's a lot bigger engine than your one, ain't it didums?

Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier

^^You are just a washed up, cashed up sack of shit living off a pension paid for in millions of peoples blood - fuck you.

You are scum - just like all your other buddies on this thread.

Your assumptions about others posters is even more absurd than your 9/11 evidence....... Nasty little fucker too aren't you?.....

People don't like their pet ideas being shown up for being nonsense, Koman.

By definition, scientific evidence consists of observations and experimental results that serve to support, refute, or modify a scientific hypothesis or theory, when collected and interpreted in accordance with THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD. Like the exhaustive analysis by the authorities in the US.

Later verified by Noam Chomsky....a brilliant mind. Remember, Albert ??

And the crap that ENT and Albert come out with is the exact opposite of this.