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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer
    Jeff Maynor is one of the many people who were involved in the cleanup on the day after 9/11. He sent this email after reading my initial version of “What Hit the Pentagon? Misinformation and its Effects on the Credibility of 9/11 Truth”.

    Hi, I read your paper. I think the only thing I disagree with is the planted plane parts theory, mostly because I was there pulling out plane parts and finding bodies. I was in the army at the time, part of the 3rd US INF (The old guard). So I lived at Fort Myers on the other side of Arlington cemetery from the Pentagon. My window shook from the impact. A day later when they got the fire under control more, they called us in to do a search and rescue. I remember making paths though all the wreckage – twisted metal everywhere. We were more just looking for bodies because there were no survivors at that point. It was very dark and thoughts of it not being a plane never crossed my mind. I remember the floor boards very well – picking up these floor boards that looked like the center path of the plane walkway. I also remember carrying an engine out, or a huge piece of metal that was taller than me, that took about 8 very strong guys to carry to the breezeway between the columns. I also remember that hole between the columns and also that it struck me as wow it punched through, but I think it might have just been the firefighters that put it there. Anyways I guess I’m kind of rambling on. But there are questions that people never seem to ask when saying that something other than the 757 hit. Firstly, if the 757 didn’t hit it, where is that plane now and where are the people that were on it? Secondly, it is ridiculous to think that for such an elaborate plan they would use a missile or explosive in plain daylight and with god knows how many witnesses that might have cameras. That just seems like a risk our government would not take. I can say with certainty that nothing exploded. The roof collapsed and I was in office rooms that were cut in two on the top floor – some of the windows didn’t even break. In fact I was in a room that was full of computers and it wasn’t touched right next to where the plane hit. All I can say is that if anyone was in that room they were the most lucky people there.
    You're a joker LD - you rubbish AE911 (more than 2000 architects and engineers) and pull some irrelevant shit from an obscure website

    You nugget.

    The first reply to the shitty blog you pulled it from was this

    4 Responses to Debris witnesses

    Mark Snyder says:
    January 28, 2012 at 10:16 am
    Mr Maynor’s email, being presented here as “debris witness” testimony, by virtue of his not being on the location on Sept. 11, 2001, but rather on the following day, leaves an awful lot to speculation as to what could have occurred from the time of the explosion at the Pentagon and the time when this witness was actually on the scene. To say he saw plane parts on the following day does not verify in any way the presence of those parts on the day before. Whether the parts were planted or not, Mr Maynor would not have been there to see it. Mr Maynor’s question regarding the release of the many videos confiscated from around the Pentagon immediately following the alleged plane impact is extremely valid and needs to be answered.


    So the guy you're quoting wasn't even there on 9/11




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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    Jeff Maynor is one of the many people who were involved in the cleanup on the day after 9/11. He sent this email after reading my initial version of “What Hit the Pentagon? Misinformation and its Effects on the Credibility of 9/11 Truth”.
    _________________________________________
    Hi, I read your paper. I think the only thing I disagree with is the planted plane parts theory, mostly because I was there pulling out plane parts and finding bodies. I was in the army at the time, part of the 3rd US INF (The old guard). So I lived at Fort Myers on the other side of Arlington cemetery from the Pentagon. My window shook from the impact. A day later when they got the fire under control more, they called us in to do a search and rescue. I remember making paths though all the wreckage – twisted metal everywhere. We were more just looking for bodies because there were no survivors at that point. It was very dark and thoughts of it not being a plane never crossed my mind. I remember the floor boards very well – picking up these floor boards that looked like the center path of the plane walkway. I also remember carrying an engine out, or a huge piece of metal that was taller than me, that took about 8 very strong guys to carry to the breezeway between the columns. I also remember that hole between the columns and also that it struck me as wow it punched through, but I think it might have just been the firefighters that put it there.
    Anyways I guess I’m kind of rambling on. But there are questions that people never seem to ask when saying that something other than the 757 hit. Firstly, if the 757 didn’t hit it, where is that plane now and where are the people that were on it? Secondly, it is ridiculous to think that for such an elaborate plan they would use a missile or explosive in plain daylight and with god knows how many witnesses that might have cameras. That just seems like a risk our government would not take. I can say with certainty that nothing exploded. The roof collapsed and I was in office rooms that were cut in two on the top floor – some of the windows didn’t even break. In fact I was in a room that was full of computers and it wasn’t touched right next to where the plane hit. All I can say is that if anyone was in that room they were the most lucky people there.

    Are you claiming to be Frank Legge (BSc, PhD)
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    or to have written the above titled paper?

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    ^^^ So why did you lie about writing a paper?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer
    Did they come in the previous night and create holes from which it would all pop up on springs, at exactly the right moment ?
    No, they brazenly walked it in infront of the press - watch at 40 seconds - all the agents with huge big black bags.





    As you can see with the chronology, the reporter says no large pieces (obviously not - as they're just being delivered as he's speaking )
    Lordy you are thick! The news clip above was taken at least an hour or more after the actual attack.
    Here are pictures taken in the immediate aftermath of the attack:




    Yet there are nut jobs out there like Shaggy, ENT, etc. who, based on laughable conspiracy websites, still want to believe that AA77 never hit the Pentagon.

    A couple more accounts from eye witnesses who saw AA77 hit the Pentagon-

    Ed Blunt:
    Engine 101 actually saw the jetliner plow into the northwest side of the Pentagon. The radio crackled, “Engine 101—emergency traffic, a plane has gone down into the Pentagon."


    Sean Boger:
    Sean Boger, Air Traffic Controller and Pentagon tower chief - "I just looked up and I saw the big nose and the wings of the aircraft coming right at us and I just watched it hit the building." "It exploded. I fell to the ground and covered my head. I could actually hear the metal going through the building."


    These dozens of eye witnesses are all just part of the grand conspiracy, right Shaggy?

    All you conspiracy nuts should have your heads examined

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    Are you claiming to be Frank Legge (BSc, PhD)
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    or to have written the above titled paper?
    You are not seriously accusing someone of taking someone else's work and passing it off as their own?




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    Shaggy, ENT and the other conspiracy nuts think all the eye witness accounts are fake? Well boys, do you have any evidence to support your allegation?

    Here are a few more eye witness accounts for you:

    David Battle:
    Earlier Tuesday, Battle, an office worker at the Pentagon, was standing outside the building and just about to enter when the aircraft struck. "It was coming down head first," he said. "And when the impact hit, the cars and everything were just shaking."
    Gary Bauer:
    I had just passed the closest place the Pentagon is to the exit on 395 . . . when all of a sudden I heard the roar of a jet engine. I looked at the woman sitting in the car next to me. She had this startled look on her face. We were all thinking the same thing. We looked out the front of our windows to try to see the plane, and it wasn’t until a few seconds later that we realized the jet was coming up behind us on that major highway. And it veered to the right into the Pentagon. The blast literally rocked all of our cars. It was an incredible moment.
    Maurice Bease:
    Sergeant Maurice L. Bease had worked around Marine aviation long enough to know what a fly-by was, and it sounded like one as he stood outside his office near the Pentagon on Sept. 11. Turning around expecting to see a fighter jet fly over, he saw only a split-second glimpse of a white commercial airliner streaking low toward the building, and him! He did not even have time to duck before it plowed into the side of the Pentagon around the corner and about 200 yards from where he stood. Immediately, a ball of flame shot up the side of the building, followed by smoke, lots of it.


    C'mon boys, prove 'em wrong; there are plenty more witnesses to come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    You're going around in circles....again. They found body parts embedded in the building, plus jet engines and other parts. Photos and testimony have been posted. Air authorities in the US are quite satisfied that it was the plane, plus those passengers. Rigorous DNA testing has been performed.
    But you are too stupid to understand the physics of planes hitting armoured buildings and going head-on into fields (rather than at an angle and breaking up).

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    All that nice clean aluminium on the Pentagon lawn was planted there.
    Ahahahaha

    Did they come in the previous night and create holes from which it would all pop up on springs, at exactly the right moment ?

    Clean aluminium debris was scattered on the lawn that morning as part of the ongoing NORAD "emergency drill" being acted out at the Pentagon, in Washington, WTC NY and Ohio at the time, notice that none of those Pentagon employees got their nice clean white shirts and hands dirty picking up and carrying away all that stage-prop junk, eh.

    Body parts embedded in the building? Total rubbish, body parts don't "embed" into buildings, idiot.

    They found jet engines? WRONG AGAIN!

    There was only one found, and it was too small to come off AA 77!!!

    What air authorities in the USA are you on about, dopey?
    One aior authority is satisfied that AA 77 never went near the Pentagon, the US Bureau of Transport Statistics have got AA 77 down as not scheduled to fly nor given a departure time for that day. Which other air authority do you have in mind?

    Now go back to your pre-digested, spoon-fed pap that you so avidly suck from "Popular Mechanics".....about the closest you'll ever get to further education, drongo.

    Oh, you did do some high school physics didn't you?
    Then you should know better than to
    All unattributed nonsense or the ramblings of the insane.

    And all posted before.

    Is this thread just destined to keep getting bumped so the Grange Hill Mob can keep squealing the same old looney tunes nonsense?


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    Conspiracy nuts like ENT and Shaggy refuse to see the truth even if it's right in front of them. Claiming there's no evidence that an American Airlines 757 hit the Pentagon on 9-11 is delusional.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyBKK
    Lordy you are thick! The news clip above was taken at least an hour or more after the actual attack. Here are pictures taken in the immediate aftermath of the attack:




    So the building collapsed first and then rebuilt itself?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TonyBKK
    Lordy you are thick! The news clip above was taken at least an hour or more after the actual attack. Here are pictures taken in the immediate aftermath of the attack:




    So the building collapsed first and then rebuilt itself?

    Dumbass- this is obviously at least 45 minutes after AA77 hit the Pentagon. Can't you even follow the simplest of timelines?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyBKK
    this is obviously at least 45 minutes after AA77 hit the Pentagon.


    Quote Originally Posted by TonyBKK
    Here are pictures taken in the immediate aftermath of the attack:
    You said it - maybe you didn't mean to

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyBKK View Post

    Yet there are nut jobs out there like Shaggy, ENT, etc. who, based on laughable conspiracy websites, still want to believe that AA77 never hit the Pentagon.
    You suck your pre-digested pap from your favourite news channel and can't for love or money figure out how anything works other than a bike.

    Then you try to say that Palisades got it all wrong when, after being asked by the Army at Pentagon to pinpoint the time of the explosion, which they did and found that there was none, only an electrical disturbance at the (Pentagon indicated) time, that AA is lying when they said that AA 77 wasn't scheduled to fly that day, that US Bureau of Transport Statistics is lying too when their records show that AA 77 didn't even have a tail number allocated, nor a departure time for that day. D'ya reckon Rumsfeld when he said a missile hit the Pentagon, that the plane over Ohio was shot down? And of course, Bush was lying too when he said the plane vapourized, eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyBKK View Post
    Conspiracy nuts like ENT and Shaggy refuse to see the truth even if it's right in front of them. Claiming there's no evidence that an American Airlines 757 hit the Pentagon on 9-11 is delusional.

    Surely you jest?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    And all posted before.
    So what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT
    You suck your pre-digested pap from your favourite news channel and can't for love or money figure out how anything works other than a bike.
    No mate, he's a shill. Works for the narcotics squad up in the golden triangle under the guise of a "Rad and awesome rider"

    Helps to tow the line for the other departments though

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyBKK View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TonyBKK
    Lordy you are thick! The news clip above was taken at least an hour or more after the actual attack. Here are pictures taken in the immediate aftermath of the attack:




    So the building collapsed first and then rebuilt itself?
    Dumbass- this is obviously at least 45 minutes after AA77 hit the Pentagon. Can't you even follow the simplest of timelines?
    Hell, are you ever thick!

    The first firetruck arrived 3 minutes after the first big plume of smoke rose from the Pentagon, reportedly at 9.38 am..

    The fire was largely knocked out in 7 minutes after that time, 9:45 am or so,

    The Pentagon engineers knocked down the damaged floors 25 minutes after 9:38 am, at aprox. 10:03 am.

    At 10:10 am the fire dept evacuated the Pentagon, 32 minutes after the start of the show.
    Last edited by ENT; 01-05-2014 at 11:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ENT
    You suck your pre-digested pap from your favourite news channel and can't for love or money figure out how anything works other than a bike.
    No mate, he's a shill. Works for the narcotics squad up in the golden triangle under the guise of a "Rad and awesome rider"

    Helps to tow the line for the other departments though
    Oh, a nark, in other words.

    Makes sense, judging by his "official story only" attitude.

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    Difference between shills and those that simply haven't seen the evidence (and rightly so find it impossible to believe at first) is that once they've had a chance to digest the information - they have to agree with the logic that the official line is bullshit.

    Koojo (if you look back at the beginning of the thread) was slating this hard. But Koojo's not a shill - so after seeing the evidence - he agrees.







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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    Are you claiming to be Frank Legge (BSc, PhD)
    [email protected]

    or to have written the above titled paper?
    You are not seriously accusing someone of taking someone else's work and passing it off as their own?
    LD claimed that he wrote the paper published under the title;

    “What Hit the Pentagon? Misinformation and its Effects on the Credibility of 9/11 Truth”.

    Author;
    Frank Legge (BSc, PhD)
    [email][email protected]

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    You pass off other people's bollocks as your own all the time, and I've pulled you up for it.

    You hypocrite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    You pass off other people's bollocks as your own all the time, and I've pulled you up for it.

    You hypocrite.
    You lying piece of scum.

    I've never passed off other's works or words as my own, and you've never 'pulld me up on it" as you so sneakily put it, you've instead, spat the dummy because you're in fact envious of my superior writing skills, beancounter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyBKK View Post
    This alledged piece of debris is somewhat problematic. There was only one place on the plane with this particular combination of colours in this shape, the 'n' of 'American' on the right side. On the left there's too little space between the n and the emergency door. Do you remember the angle of the impact? No way the explosion could have blown it to the left. Problem 2 are the rivets visible on the debris, they are in different places near the 'n'.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT
    my superior writing skills
    Ha ha! I think you've broken the sound barrier with that bit of self-aggrandizing, delusional bollocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ENT
    You suck your pre-digested pap from your favourite news channel and can't for love or money figure out how anything works other than a bike.
    No mate, he's a shill. Works for the narcotics squad up in the golden triangle under the guise of a "Rad and awesome rider"

    Helps to tow the line for the other departments though
    Is he a policeman moonlighting as a shill or a shill moonlighting as a policeman? Or have the lizardmen got some management consultants in to streamline the organizational chart of the NWO and combined these functions into one super-department responsible for just fucking everything which gets between internet weirdos and The Truth?

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    I am trying to remember a quote which goes something like : "Never try to reason with a madman because he'll win because of his vast experience with the irrational".

    So I'm sidestepping.
    Hey ENT ! Go to the Acronym thread and correct the dud you put in there, eh ?

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